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Re: Knicks (25-26) at Celtics (25-26) Game #52 4/7/21
« Reply #375 on: April 08, 2021, 11:14:13 AM »

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Some sites are saying this was a great win.  I went to bed angry last night at how poorly the Celtics played.  The turnovers are atrocious, Robert Williams was not that good again, there was no time given to Tacko Fall, Kornet or Wagner, the shot selection was pretty bad and they allowed Barrett to go off.

The only positives were timely shot making and Tristan Thompson, in my mind.  Possibly Langford as well.

The Celtics need to work one of the other big men into the rotation, particularly if RWIII is going to be inconsistent.  My proposal would be much less GW and more of Kornet/Wagner/Fall (choose one).

Re: Knicks (25-26) at Celtics (25-26) Game #52 4/7/21
« Reply #376 on: April 08, 2021, 11:51:34 AM »

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Some sites are saying this was a great win.  I went to bed angry last night at how poorly the Celtics played.  The turnovers are atrocious, Robert Williams was not that good again, there was no time given to Tacko Fall, Kornet or Wagner, the shot selection was pretty bad and they allowed Barrett to go off.

The only positives were timely shot making and Tristan Thompson, in my mind.  Possibly Langford as well.

The Celtics need to work one of the other big men into the rotation, particularly if RWIII is going to be inconsistent.  My proposal would be much less GW and more of Kornet/Wagner/Fall (choose one).

It was a classic "bad game, good win." I think both sides are correct!

Re: Knicks (25-26) at Celtics (25-26) Game #52 4/7/21
« Reply #377 on: April 08, 2021, 11:52:54 AM »

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Some sites are saying this was a great win.  I went to bed angry last night at how poorly the Celtics played.  The turnovers are atrocious, Robert Williams was not that good again, there was no time given to Tacko Fall, Kornet or Wagner, the shot selection was pretty bad and they allowed Barrett to go off.

The only positives were timely shot making and Tristan Thompson, in my mind.  Possibly Langford as well.

The Celtics need to work one of the other big men into the rotation, particularly if RWIII is going to be inconsistent.  My proposal would be much less GW and more of Kornet/Wagner/Fall (choose one).
Think the answer here is play more 3 wing lineups with either TL/TT. The other big man options are very poor. Unfortunately, until Fournier is out of covid protocol, we’re sort of stuck with the status quo.

Re: Knicks (25-26) at Celtics (25-26) Game #52 4/7/21
« Reply #378 on: April 08, 2021, 12:04:51 PM »

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Any deep playoff run will be predicated on developing Time Lord and Romeo as quickly as possible. Growing pains be [dang]ed,

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Re: Knicks (25-26) at Celtics (25-26) Game #52 4/7/21
« Reply #379 on: April 08, 2021, 12:05:37 PM »

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Still don’t know how Grant & Semi are still in NBA

Well, they both shoot the 3 ball at 40%. Semi is a 3 and D player, can guard multiple positions which is very useful. Grant is a 3
Point shooter and nothing else. He’s constantly at a disadvantage defensively due to his lack of height and athleticism. His lateral speed is laughable.

Would prefer If the PF rotation was Tatum and Thompson with a C rotation of Timelord, Thompson and Kornet.

True, stuff and I agree with you but Thompson as a PF?   His skillset is more C, even though he is PF sized but we could go situationally big I suppose but everyone hated on the double big lineups this year.

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Some sites are saying this was a great win.  I went to bed angry last night at how poorly the Celtics played.  The turnovers are atrocious, Robert Williams was not that good again, there was no time given to Tacko Fall, Kornet or Wagner, the shot selection was pretty bad and they allowed Barrett to go off.

The only positives were timely shot making and Tristan Thompson, in my mind.  Possibly Langford as well.

The Celtics need to work one of the other big men into the rotation, particularly if RWIII is going to be inconsistent.  My proposal would be much less GW and more of Kornet/Wagner/Fall (choose one).

I think Teams are scheming for Timelord and we are seeing that.   He is still rebounding like a boss though.  It will be another bench mark for him to over come.  Nice to have another threat and a bonus to have one that does not need the ball.

Re: Knicks (25-26) at Celtics (25-26) Game #52 4/7/21
« Reply #380 on: April 08, 2021, 12:57:48 PM »

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Still don’t know how Grant & Semi are still in NBA

Well, they both shoot the 3 ball at 40%. Semi is a 3 and D player, can guard multiple positions which is very useful. Grant is a 3
Point shooter and nothing else. He’s constantly at a disadvantage defensively due to his lack of height and athleticism. His lateral speed is laughable.

Would prefer If the PF rotation was Tatum and Thompson with a C rotation of Timelord, Thompson and Kornet.

True, stuff and I agree with you but Thompson as a PF?   His skillset is more C, even though he is PF sized but we could go situationally big I suppose but everyone hated on the double big lineups this year.

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Some sites are saying this was a great win.  I went to bed angry last night at how poorly the Celtics played.  The turnovers are atrocious, Robert Williams was not that good again, there was no time given to Tacko Fall, Kornet or Wagner, the shot selection was pretty bad and they allowed Barrett to go off.

The only positives were timely shot making and Tristan Thompson, in my mind.  Possibly Langford as well.

The Celtics need to work one of the other big men into the rotation, particularly if RWIII is going to be inconsistent.  My proposal would be much less GW and more of Kornet/Wagner/Fall (choose one).

I think Teams are scheming for Timelord and we are seeing that.   He is still rebounding like a boss though.  It will be another bench mark for him to over come.  Nice to have another threat and a bonus to have one that does not need the ball.

If you play a two big line up one big needs to be able to shoot from outside and one big needs to be able to cover smaller players.

I would go TIMELORD/KORNET against the Sixers or Tacko/Grant Williams.

Re: Knicks (25-26) at Celtics (25-26) Game #52 4/7/21
« Reply #381 on: April 08, 2021, 01:12:46 PM »

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Still don’t know how Grant & Semi are still in NBA

Well, they both shoot the 3 ball at 40%. Semi is a 3 and D player, can guard multiple positions which is very useful. Grant is a 3
Point shooter and nothing else. He’s constantly at a disadvantage defensively due to his lack of height and athleticism. His lateral speed is laughable.

Would prefer If the PF rotation was Tatum and Thompson with a C rotation of Timelord, Thompson and Kornet.

True, stuff and I agree with you but Thompson as a PF?   His skillset is more C, even though he is PF sized but we could go situationally big I suppose but everyone hated on the double big lineups this year.

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Some sites are saying this was a great win.  I went to bed angry last night at how poorly the Celtics played.  The turnovers are atrocious, Robert Williams was not that good again, there was no time given to Tacko Fall, Kornet or Wagner, the shot selection was pretty bad and they allowed Barrett to go off.

The only positives were timely shot making and Tristan Thompson, in my mind.  Possibly Langford as well.

The Celtics need to work one of the other big men into the rotation, particularly if RWIII is going to be inconsistent.  My proposal would be much less GW and more of Kornet/Wagner/Fall (choose one).

I think Teams are scheming for Timelord and we are seeing that.   He is still rebounding like a boss though.  It will be another bench mark for him to over come.  Nice to have another threat and a bonus to have one that does not need the ball.

With Tatum and Semi as Small ball PF’s and then you have Timelord and Thompson who can play against Bigger PF’s and C’s, I don’t see any reason to play Grant Williams at all.
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Re: Knicks (25-26) at Celtics (25-26) Game #52 4/7/21
« Reply #382 on: April 08, 2021, 01:19:43 PM »

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Any deep playoff run will be predicated on developing Time Lord and Romeo as quickly as possible. Growing pains be [dang]ed,

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I think it's part of the charm of this board honestly, nobody moderates anymore

Re: Knicks (25-26) at Celtics (25-26) Game #52 4/7/21
« Reply #383 on: April 08, 2021, 01:21:20 PM »

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Any deep playoff run will be predicated on developing Time Lord and Romeo as quickly as possible. Growing pains be [dang]ed,

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I think it's part of the charm of this board honestly, nobody moderates anymore

You might be shocked to learn that we do.


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Re: Knicks (25-26) at Celtics (25-26) Game #52 4/7/21
« Reply #384 on: April 08, 2021, 01:52:40 PM »

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Any deep playoff run will be predicated on developing Time Lord and Romeo as quickly as possible. Growing pains be [dang]ed,

EDIT: Wow. D-a-m-n-e-d is a moderated word? Between the Jesus and Christian ads and that, who runs this site...?

I think it's part of the charm of this board honestly, nobody moderates anymore

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Re: Knicks (25-26) at Celtics (25-26) Game #52 4/7/21
« Reply #385 on: April 08, 2021, 02:01:51 PM »

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Some sites are saying this was a great win.  I went to bed angry last night at how poorly the Celtics played.  The turnovers are atrocious, Robert Williams was not that good again, there was no time given to Tacko Fall, Kornet or Wagner, the shot selection was pretty bad and they allowed Barrett to go off.

The only positives were timely shot making and Tristan Thompson, in my mind.  Possibly Langford as well.

The Celtics need to work one of the other big men into the rotation, particularly if RWIII is going to be inconsistent.  My proposal would be much less GW and more of Kornet/Wagner/Fall (choose one).

“ there was no time given to Tacko Fall, Kornet or Wagner,...”

I count this as a positive. I hope Tacko can make some money in Europe or China, but he’s not an NBA big. Just too slow. The other guys are third string centers.

Re: Knicks (25-26) at Celtics (25-26) Game #52 4/7/21
« Reply #386 on: April 08, 2021, 02:21:28 PM »

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Any deep playoff run will be predicated on developing Time Lord and Romeo as quickly as possible. Growing pains be [dang]ed,

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Quoting Nick from the now locked Ime thread:
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At some point you have to blame the performance on the court on the players on the court. Every loss is not the coach's fault and every win isn't because of the players.

Re: Knicks (25-26) at Celtics (25-26) Game #52 4/7/21
« Reply #387 on: April 08, 2021, 02:38:29 PM »

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Any deep playoff run will be predicated on developing Time Lord and Romeo as quickly as possible. Growing pains be [dang]ed,

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Re: Knicks (25-26) at Celtics (25-26) Game #52 4/7/21
« Reply #388 on: April 08, 2021, 02:55:46 PM »

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Does anyone else feel there is irrational exuberance for Luke Kormet?  I mean he was better than advertised and moves with purpose on the court and gets spacing but I for one don't get the massive want for his services.   He is a fine third or fourth big man and so far I think he has been better than Wagner but is he really all that?

Re: Knicks (25-26) at Celtics (25-26) Game #52 4/7/21
« Reply #389 on: April 08, 2021, 02:58:18 PM »

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Some sites are saying this was a great win.  I went to bed angry last night at how poorly the Celtics played.  The turnovers are atrocious, Robert Williams was not that good again, there was no time given to Tacko Fall, Kornet or Wagner, the shot selection was pretty bad and they allowed Barrett to go off.

The only positives were timely shot making and Tristan Thompson, in my mind.  Possibly Langford as well.

The Celtics need to work one of the other big men into the rotation, particularly if RWIII is going to be inconsistent.  My proposal would be much less GW and more of Kornet/Wagner/Fall (choose one).

“ there was no time given to Tacko Fall, Kornet or Wagner,...”

I count this as a positive. I hope Tacko can make some money in Europe or China, but he’s not an NBA big. Just too slow. The other guys are third string centers.

I think Wagner has been quite underutilized in his time in Boston, with a good chunk of his minutes coming at the 4, which is not his best NBA position.