Can the Celtics Operate in the Buyout Market?

[perks-a-beast]

Drummond meeting with Celtics. If Danny could add him to Fournier and Wagner, I think that's an excellent deadline haul. Big upgrade with AD - RWill still gets his minutes but doesn't have to carry the whole load inside. TT and Wagner give you a couple bangers for depth in a physical series. Bigs with attitudes! I like it.

I don’t think it will go anywhere, but I would love to have him.  We just wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance of retaining him.  The Knicks would.

Assuming we don’t land Drummond and Porter stays put, I’d be down with KO.  He’s a good fit for our roster.



As an aside, I have always wondered if fanswould like KO better if he had a crew cut.  Does appearance matter?

I think the hair is a factor, but most fans dislike him because he tried to tear one of Kevin Loves limbs off of his body lol.

[Celtics2021]

Drummond meeting with Celtics. If Danny could add him to Fournier and Wagner, I think that's an excellent deadline haul. Big upgrade with AD - RWill still gets his minutes but doesn't have to carry the whole load inside. TT and Wagner give you a couple bangers for depth in a physical series. Bigs with attitudes! I like it.

I don’t think it will go anywhere, but I would love to have him.  We just wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance of retaining him.  The Knicks would.

Assuming we don’t land Drummond and Porter stays put, I’d be down with KO.  He’s a good fit for our roster.



As an aside, I have always wondered if fanswould like KO better if he had a crew cut.  Does appearance matter?

If we're bringing back Celtics who've only played with Brown and Smart, can we bring back IT instead of KO?  I'm not sure what KO adds to a team with Time Lord, Thompson, and Wagner if we're only playing one big.  Meanwhile, we just moved Teague and have an opening for someone with IT's abilities.  He's obviously not what he once was, and admittedly we don't know what he is at all now, but I would rather have him on this team than KO, just given its needs.  He was incredibly supportive of Jaylen and Marcus his first time in Boston, and those guys could use his energy if nothing else.

[Roy H.]

Drummond meeting with Celtics. If Danny could add him to Fournier and Wagner, I think that's an excellent deadline haul. Big upgrade with AD - RWill still gets his minutes but doesn't have to carry the whole load inside. TT and Wagner give you a couple bangers for depth in a physical series. Bigs with attitudes! I like it.

I don’t think it will go anywhere, but I would love to have him.  We just wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance of retaining him.  The Knicks would.

Assuming we don’t land Drummond and Porter stays put, I’d be down with KO.  He’s a good fit for our roster.



As an aside, I have always wondered if fanswould like KO better if he had a crew cut.  Does appearance matter?

If we're bringing back Celtics who've only played with Brown and Smart, can we bring back IT instead of KO?  I'm not sure what KO adds to a team with Time Lord, Thompson, and Wagner if we're only playing one big.  Meanwhile, we just moved Teague and have an opening for someone with IT's abilities.  He's obviously not what he once was, and admittedly we don't know what he is at all now, but I would rather have him on this team than KO, just given its needs.  He was incredibly supportive of Jaylen and Marcus his first time in Boston, and those guys could use his energy if nothing else.

KO is a two-way player who can play power forward in two-big lineups.

IT is a fringe NBA player who adds league-worst defense and spotty offense.

I will always love IT, but he’s not a sure rotation player.

[Phantom255x]

If people were frustrated with Kanter and are currently frustrated with Thompson, then boy you'll be in for a surprise when Drummond comes here 

I mean I wouldn't hate if they did it. But there's a reason Drummond is considered a liability in the 4th quarter of games. Also, Drummond and TT are kinda repetitive. It'd make more sense if Thompson had been traded yesterday, not Theis

The guy I'd really want is Otto Porter Jr., but other teams will covet him too. The thing is though, in theory the C's could be able to offer him more minutes than most of the teams who'd want him except maybe 1.

[Celtics2021]

Drummond meeting with Celtics. If Danny could add him to Fournier and Wagner, I think that's an excellent deadline haul. Big upgrade with AD - RWill still gets his minutes but doesn't have to carry the whole load inside. TT and Wagner give you a couple bangers for depth in a physical series. Bigs with attitudes! I like it.

I don’t think it will go anywhere, but I would love to have him.  We just wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance of retaining him.  The Knicks would.

Assuming we don’t land Drummond and Porter stays put, I’d be down with KO.  He’s a good fit for our roster.



As an aside, I have always wondered if fanswould like KO better if he had a crew cut.  Does appearance matter?

If we're bringing back Celtics who've only played with Brown and Smart, can we bring back IT instead of KO?  I'm not sure what KO adds to a team with Time Lord, Thompson, and Wagner if we're only playing one big.  Meanwhile, we just moved Teague and have an opening for someone with IT's abilities.  He's obviously not what he once was, and admittedly we don't know what he is at all now, but I would rather have him on this team than KO, just given its needs.  He was incredibly supportive of Jaylen and Marcus his first time in Boston, and those guys could use his energy if nothing else.

KO is a two-way player who can play power forward in two-big lineups.

IT is a fringe NBA player who adds league-worst defense and spotty offense.

I will always love IT, but he’s not a sure rotation player.

But the Celtics aren’t using two big lineups.  That’s one reason Theis was traded.  Just last week this was the news:

Brad Stevens said he talked to Daniel Theis at halftime, who barely played tonight after starting. Stevens says they are going to have to limit the center rotation to just two guys between Theis, TT and Time Lord as the season goes on and they look to play smaller.

I get being interested in someone like Aldridge or Drummond, because either could be better than Thompson.  But KO is going to rack up DNPs, and it’s probably better to give what few minutes he might find to audition Wagner.

I’m just suggesting even a diminished IT could be a better fit for this team than Olynyk, even if one could very reasonably prefer Olynyk in the abstract.

I think we both agree the best potential option is Otto Porter Jr. if he becomes available, because that’s exactly the role we have an large opening for.  Wayne Ellington would be a solid consolation prize if we can’t get Porter.

[wdleehi]

Drummond meeting with Celtics. If Danny could add him to Fournier and Wagner, I think that's an excellent deadline haul. Big upgrade with AD - RWill still gets his minutes but doesn't have to carry the whole load inside. TT and Wagner give you a couple bangers for depth in a physical series. Bigs with attitudes! I like it.

I don’t think it will go anywhere, but I would love to have him.  We just wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance of retaining him.  The Knicks would.

Assuming we don’t land Drummond and Porter stays put, I’d be down with KO.  He’s a good fit for our roster.



As an aside, I have always wondered if fanswould like KO better if he had a crew cut.  Does appearance matter?

If we're bringing back Celtics who've only played with Brown and Smart, can we bring back IT instead of KO?  I'm not sure what KO adds to a team with Time Lord, Thompson, and Wagner if we're only playing one big.  Meanwhile, we just moved Teague and have an opening for someone with IT's abilities.  He's obviously not what he once was, and admittedly we don't know what he is at all now, but I would rather have him on this team than KO, just given its needs.  He was incredibly supportive of Jaylen and Marcus his first time in Boston, and those guys could use his energy if nothing else.

KO is a two-way player who can play power forward in two-big lineups.

IT is a fringe NBA player who adds league-worst defense and spotty offense.

I will always love IT, but he’s not a sure rotation player.

But the Celtics aren’t using two big lineups.  That’s one reason Theis was traded.  Just last week this was the news:

Brad Stevens said he talked to Daniel Theis at halftime, who barely played tonight after starting. Stevens says they are going to have to limit the center rotation to just two guys between Theis, TT and Time Lord as the season goes on and they look to play smaller.

I get being interested in someone like Aldridge or Drummond, because either could be better than Thompson.  But KO is going to rack up DNPs, and it’s probably better to give what few minutes he might find to audition Wagner.

I’m just suggesting even a diminished IT could be a better fit for this team than Olynyk, even if one could very reasonably prefer Olynyk in the abstract.

I think we both agree the best potential option is Otto Porter Jr. if he becomes available, because that’s exactly the role we have an large opening for.  Wayne Ellington would be a solid consolation prize if we can’t get Porter.

KO gives the Celtics a guy that can play C, hit outside shots and can open the floor for the Celtics.   He gives them a different big man look off the bench in contrast with Thompson.   (R. Williams should be the starter at this point)

[GreenBoomer]

Or a mohawk like Birdman

[Celtics2021]

Drummond meeting with Celtics. If Danny could add him to Fournier and Wagner, I think that's an excellent deadline haul. Big upgrade with AD - RWill still gets his minutes but doesn't have to carry the whole load inside. TT and Wagner give you a couple bangers for depth in a physical series. Bigs with attitudes! I like it.

I don’t think it will go anywhere, but I would love to have him.  We just wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance of retaining him.  The Knicks would.

Assuming we don’t land Drummond and Porter stays put, I’d be down with KO.  He’s a good fit for our roster.



As an aside, I have always wondered if fanswould like KO better if he had a crew cut.  Does appearance matter?

If we're bringing back Celtics who've only played with Brown and Smart, can we bring back IT instead of KO?  I'm not sure what KO adds to a team with Time Lord, Thompson, and Wagner if we're only playing one big.  Meanwhile, we just moved Teague and have an opening for someone with IT's abilities.  He's obviously not what he once was, and admittedly we don't know what he is at all now, but I would rather have him on this team than KO, just given its needs.  He was incredibly supportive of Jaylen and Marcus his first time in Boston, and those guys could use his energy if nothing else.

KO is a two-way player who can play power forward in two-big lineups.

IT is a fringe NBA player who adds league-worst defense and spotty offense.

I will always love IT, but he’s not a sure rotation player.

But the Celtics aren’t using two big lineups.  That’s one reason Theis was traded.  Just last week this was the news:

Brad Stevens said he talked to Daniel Theis at halftime, who barely played tonight after starting. Stevens says they are going to have to limit the center rotation to just two guys between Theis, TT and Time Lord as the season goes on and they look to play smaller.

I get being interested in someone like Aldridge or Drummond, because either could be better than Thompson.  But KO is going to rack up DNPs, and it’s probably better to give what few minutes he might find to audition Wagner.

I’m just suggesting even a diminished IT could be a better fit for this team than Olynyk, even if one could very reasonably prefer Olynyk in the abstract.

I think we both agree the best potential option is Otto Porter Jr. if he becomes available, because that’s exactly the role we have an large opening for.  Wayne Ellington would be a solid consolation prize if we can’t get Porter.

KO gives the Celtics a guy that can play C, hit outside shots and can open the floor for the Celtics.   He gives them a different big man look off the bench in contrast with Thompson.   (R. Williams should be the starter at this point)

Right, but KO is at 32% from 3 this year, and Wagner is at 31%.  Theis was 35 for us%.  If we wanted someone for that role, the best answer was keeping Theis.  It would seem silly to move Theis to create room on the buyout market, only to get someone who filled Theis' role not as well, especially when also trading for someone who can do that role about as equally well as the buyout candidate.

[michigan adam]

Drummond meeting with Celtics. If Danny could add him to Fournier and Wagner, I think that's an excellent deadline haul. Big upgrade with AD - RWill still gets his minutes but doesn't have to carry the whole load inside. TT and Wagner give you a couple bangers for depth in a physical series. Bigs with attitudes! I like it.

I don’t think it will go anywhere, but I would love to have him.  We just wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance of retaining him.  The Knicks would.

Assuming we don’t land Drummond and Porter stays put, I’d be down with KO.  He’s a good fit for our roster.



As an aside, I have always wondered if fanswould like KO better if he had a crew cut.  Does appearance matter?

If we're bringing back Celtics who've only played with Brown and Smart, can we bring back IT instead of KO?  I'm not sure what KO adds to a team with Time Lord, Thompson, and Wagner if we're only playing one big.  Meanwhile, we just moved Teague and have an opening for someone with IT's abilities.  He's obviously not what he once was, and admittedly we don't know what he is at all now, but I would rather have him on this team than KO, just given its needs.  He was incredibly supportive of Jaylen and Marcus his first time in Boston, and those guys could use his energy if nothing else.

  Our glaring hole is not PG.  I think we have sufficient ball handling with Kemba, PP and smart, in addition to fournier and the jays.  There is also waters in an emergency.  We are glaringly lacking quality depth at the PF spot.  Tatum is basically backed up by Semi and grant williams.  I see no line up with the current roster that does not include 20 minutes from the combination of Semi and Grant.  That is a big weakness.  They have tried both Theis and thompson in the role, with poor results.  Gordon or collins would have been good choices.  Now we look for buyouts and off season work to fill/upgrade the role.

[Big333223]

If people were frustrated with Kanter and are currently frustrated with Thompson, then boy you'll be in for a surprise when Drummond comes here 

I mean I wouldn't hate if they did it. But there's a reason Drummond is considered a liability in the 4th quarter of games. Also, Drummond and TT are kinda repetitive. It'd make more sense if Thompson had been traded yesterday, not Theis

The guy I'd really want is Otto Porter Jr., but other teams will covet him too. The thing is though, in theory the C's could be able to offer him more minutes than most of the teams who'd want him except maybe 1.

It would seem weird to move Theis, opening up a starting spot for Timelord, only to sign Drummond and clog up the rotation again. I agree Porter is a better fit if he’s healthy but I don’t know what the story is there.

[BMark]

Drummond meeting with Celtics. If Danny could add him to Fournier and Wagner, I think that's an excellent deadline haul. Big upgrade with AD - RWill still gets his minutes but doesn't have to carry the whole load inside. TT and Wagner give you a couple bangers for depth in a physical series. Bigs with attitudes! I like it.

I don’t think it will go anywhere, but I would love to have him.  We just wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance of retaining him.  The Knicks would.

Assuming we don’t land Drummond and Porter stays put, I’d be down with KO.  He’s a good fit for our roster.



As an aside, I have always wondered if fanswould like KO better if he had a crew cut.  Does appearance matter?

If we're bringing back Celtics who've only played with Brown and Smart, can we bring back IT instead of KO?  I'm not sure what KO adds to a team with Time Lord, Thompson, and Wagner if we're only playing one big.  Meanwhile, we just moved Teague and have an opening for someone with IT's abilities.  He's obviously not what he once was, and admittedly we don't know what he is at all now, but I would rather have him on this team than KO, just given its needs.  He was incredibly supportive of Jaylen and Marcus his first time in Boston, and those guys could use his energy if nothing else.

  Our glaring hole is not PG.  I think we have sufficient ball handling with Kemba, PP and smart, in addition to fournier and the jays.  There is also waters in an emergency.  We are glaringly lacking quality depth at the PF spot.  Tatum is basically backed up by Semi and grant williams.  I see no line up with the current roster that does not include 20 minutes from the combination of Semi and Grant.  That is a big weakness.  They have tried both Theis and thompson in the role, with poor results.  Gordon or collins would have been good choices.  Now we look for buyouts and off season work to fill/upgrade the role.

The Cs' major hole is their interior defense.  I will always remember Valanciunas dunking in Theis' face on Monday, as if Theis were not even there. 

I am glad we picked up a stronger center in Wagner, and I think Drummond would help in short spurts.  I would not worry about Drummond's effect on TT because, once Drummond would start eating into TT's minutes, TT would take a little vacation

[Roy H.]

Drummond meeting with Celtics. If Danny could add him to Fournier and Wagner, I think that's an excellent deadline haul. Big upgrade with AD - RWill still gets his minutes but doesn't have to carry the whole load inside. TT and Wagner give you a couple bangers for depth in a physical series. Bigs with attitudes! I like it.

I don’t think it will go anywhere, but I would love to have him.  We just wouldn’t have a snowball’s chance of retaining him.  The Knicks would.

Assuming we don’t land Drummond and Porter stays put, I’d be down with KO.  He’s a good fit for our roster.



As an aside, I have always wondered if fanswould like KO better if he had a crew cut.  Does appearance matter?

If we're bringing back Celtics who've only played with Brown and Smart, can we bring back IT instead of KO?  I'm not sure what KO adds to a team with Time Lord, Thompson, and Wagner if we're only playing one big.  Meanwhile, we just moved Teague and have an opening for someone with IT's abilities.  He's obviously not what he once was, and admittedly we don't know what he is at all now, but I would rather have him on this team than KO, just given its needs.  He was incredibly supportive of Jaylen and Marcus his first time in Boston, and those guys could use his energy if nothing else.

KO is a two-way player who can play power forward in two-big lineups.

IT is a fringe NBA player who adds league-worst defense and spotty offense.

I will always love IT, but he’s not a sure rotation player.

But the Celtics aren’t using two big lineups.  That’s one reason Theis was traded.  Just last week this was the news:

Brad Stevens said he talked to Daniel Theis at halftime, who barely played tonight after starting. Stevens says they are going to have to limit the center rotation to just two guys between Theis, TT and Time Lord as the season goes on and they look to play smaller.

I get being interested in someone like Aldridge or Drummond, because either could be better than Thompson.  But KO is going to rack up DNPs, and it’s probably better to give what few minutes he might find to audition Wagner.

I’m just suggesting even a diminished IT could be a better fit for this team than Olynyk, even if one could very reasonably prefer Olynyk in the abstract.

I think we both agree the best potential option is Otto Porter Jr. if he becomes available, because that’s exactly the role we have an large opening for.  Wayne Ellington would be a solid consolation prize if we can’t get Porter.

KO gives the Celtics a guy that can play C, hit outside shots and can open the floor for the Celtics.   He gives them a different big man look off the bench in contrast with Thompson.   (R. Williams should be the starter at this point)

Right, but KO is at 32% from 3 this year, and Wagner is at 31%.  Theis was 35 for us%.  If we wanted someone for that role, the best answer was keeping Theis.  It would seem silly to move Theis to create room on the buyout market, only to get someone who filled Theis' role not as well, especially when also trading for someone who can do that role about as equally well as the buyout candidate.

Theis isn’t a good PF; KO is.  Also, KO is a career 37% 3PT shooter.  He fills the role.

[Vermont Green]

Of course we don't know who is going to be bought out but the big names like Drummond and Aldridge are not likely to end up in Boston.  I am not sure Otto Porter is worth it.  Jabari Parker maybe.  I am not expecting anything big or impactful from the buy out market.  It would be fun if we got Porter, but even him, I just don't see us getting much out of him but even some bench scoring wouldn't hurt I guess.

And I keep forgetting about Demarcus Cousins.  It is possible we give him a try, he is certainly well rested.

[Roy H.]

At 29 years old, Olynyk doesn’t appear to fit in Houston’s rebuilding plans, which is why Hollinger believes the eight-year pro is one of the biggest names to watch on the buyout front over the next few days.

“Surely the Rockets have no need for him as they take aim on tankapalaooza, especially since he has an expiring deal but is unlikely to command attention in the sign-and-trade market,” Hollinger wrote. “But Olynyk is a legitimately useful player who played a major role on an NBA Finals team a year ago, and his pick-and-pop game and proclivity for drawing charges make him a plus big off the bench for teams needing more offensive punch.”

As for where Olynyk’s “offensive punch” may be most greatly utilized, Hollinger thinks it’s quite obvious.

“One Captain Obvious place to watch is Boston, where Olynyk began his career, and where starting center Daniel Theis was just traded to the Bulls,” he proclaimed.

[Birdman]

Drummond going to Lakers..our only hope is Demarcus Cousins