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Re: Celtics (21-22) at Bucks (28-14) Game #44 3/24/21
« Reply #465 on: March 24, 2021, 11:02:51 PM »

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Why don't you put 5 shooters on the floor at the end of a game where you need one basket?

Re: Celtics (21-22) at Bucks (28-14) Game #44 3/24/21
« Reply #466 on: March 24, 2021, 11:04:52 PM »

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Trade deadline can’t come any sooner. Let’s all hope were a better team by tomorrow.

What makes you think anything will happen.

The AG rumors seem to suggest that something’s brewing.

Re: Celtics (21-22) at Bucks (28-14) Game #44 3/24/21
« Reply #467 on: March 24, 2021, 11:09:19 PM »

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Trade deadline can’t come any sooner. Let’s all hope were a better team by tomorrow.

What makes you think anything will happen.

The AG rumors seem to suggest that something’s brewing.

There's always rumors and most of the trades we make there aren't rumors of.

Re: Celtics (21-22) at Bucks (28-14) Game #44 3/24/21
« Reply #468 on: March 24, 2021, 11:15:09 PM »

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Oh ye of little faith:

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Hoop Central@BaskaSincero
ALERT 🚨40m

Boston Celtics made an exchange involving these teams: Orlando Magic and Toronto Raptors

Toronto Raptors receive: Kemba Walker

Orlando Magic receives: Daniel Theis, Robert Willians III, Aaron Nesmith, Jeff Teague and First Round Pick 2022 and 2024 (top 3 protected) And 2 Second 2021, 2022 via OKC, Charlotte (Respectively)

Boston Celtics receive: Kyle Lowry, Nikola Vucevic and James Ennis III

Many trades so far. You say, is your team making good trades?

Woj is losing his touch.

Re: Celtics (21-22) at Bucks (28-14) Game #44 3/24/21
« Reply #469 on: March 24, 2021, 11:17:13 PM »

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Oh ye of little faith:

Quote
Hoop Central@BaskaSincero
ALERT 🚨40m

Boston Celtics made an exchange involving these teams: Orlando Magic and Toronto Raptors

Toronto Raptors receive: Kemba Walker

Orlando Magic receives: Daniel Theis, Robert Willians III, Aaron Nesmith, Jeff Teague and First Round Pick 2022 and 2024 (top 3 protected) And 2 Second 2021, 2022 via OKC, Charlotte (Respectively)

Boston Celtics receive: Kyle Lowry, Nikola Vucevic and James Ennis III

Many trades so far. You say, is your team making good trades?

Woj is losing his touch.

Someone's losing touch...

Re: Celtics (21-22) at Bucks (28-14) Game #44 3/24/21
« Reply #470 on: March 24, 2021, 11:20:13 PM »

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Oh ye of little faith:

Quote
Hoop Central@BaskaSincero
ALERT 🚨40m

Boston Celtics made an exchange involving these teams: Orlando Magic and Toronto Raptors

Toronto Raptors receive: Kemba Walker

Orlando Magic receives: Daniel Theis, Robert Willians III, Aaron Nesmith, Jeff Teague and First Round Pick 2022 and 2024 (top 3 protected) And 2 Second 2021, 2022 via OKC, Charlotte (Respectively)

Boston Celtics receive: Kyle Lowry, Nikola Vucevic and James Ennis III

Many trades so far. You say, is your team making good trades?

Woj is losing his touch.
I do love the random Twitter accounts that make some big media outlet their username, but their tag is something random, like @baskasincero

Hilarious stuff
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Celtics (21-22) at Bucks (28-14) Game #44 3/24/21
« Reply #471 on: March 24, 2021, 11:22:58 PM »

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We've one what one game since Smart came back.

And it was against the Magic, does that even count? Lol

Smart shot the most threes tonight at the worst rate. I'm no analytics expert but that's not good.

Stay true to yourself analytics expert is no way to enjoy basketball.

Agreed but watching Smart shoot the most 3s on our team makes me sick. How come no one calls out that crap?

You can say what you want, but the only voice that counts is that of his coach...have you observed his coach lately?

Re: Celtics (21-22) at Bucks (28-14) Game #44 3/24/21
« Reply #472 on: March 24, 2021, 11:26:11 PM »

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Oh ye of little faith:

Quote
Hoop Central@BaskaSincero
ALERT 🚨40m

Boston Celtics made an exchange involving these teams: Orlando Magic and Toronto Raptors

Toronto Raptors receive: Kemba Walker

Orlando Magic receives: Daniel Theis, Robert Willians III, Aaron Nesmith, Jeff Teague and First Round Pick 2022 and 2024 (top 3 protected) And 2 Second 2021, 2022 via OKC, Charlotte (Respectively)

Boston Celtics receive: Kyle Lowry, Nikola Vucevic and James Ennis III

Many trades so far. You say, is your team making good trades?

Woj is losing his touch.

Or that poster is touching his loins.

Re: Celtics (21-22) at Bucks (28-14) Game #44 3/24/21
« Reply #473 on: March 24, 2021, 11:35:40 PM »

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Oh ye of little faith:

Quote
Hoop Central@BaskaSincero
ALERT 🚨40m

Boston Celtics made an exchange involving these teams: Orlando Magic and Toronto Raptors

Toronto Raptors receive: Kemba Walker

Orlando Magic receives: Daniel Theis, Robert Willians III, Aaron Nesmith, Jeff Teague and First Round Pick 2022 and 2024 (top 3 protected) And 2 Second 2021, 2022 via OKC, Charlotte (Respectively)

Boston Celtics receive: Kyle Lowry, Nikola Vucevic and James Ennis III

Many trades so far. You say, is your team making good trades?

Woj is losing his touch.
I do love the random Twitter accounts that make some big media outlet their username, but their tag is something random, like @baskasincero

Hilarious stuff



Take Ennis out and it works in the trade machine and we keep the TPE too!!

Re: Celtics (21-22) at Bucks (28-14) Game #44 3/24/21
« Reply #474 on: March 25, 2021, 12:17:38 AM »

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Some of you are being way too nice. Don’t get me wrong I’m not crying over this loss but this team deserves 0 credit. The only reason they even had to comeback was because they, as usual, played with sticks up with their butts for at least two quarters.

Play hard they would have won. I’m done with moral victories, the only acceptable loss is when they play hard and lose ( like our bad but hard working 15-17 teams).

Yeah, those 2015-2017 teams had a strong mentality. Even in losing, they still fought hard.

This team? All this talent and still losing games left and right? Pretty much the same team that made it to the ECF 6 months ago? Downright embarrassing!

Exactly from possible title contender to this. It is embarrassing.

Lol. We we're never a title contender this year. That was the biggest preseason myth. It was cute, but it was never realistic.

Cute?  lol

Last year they were up and coming. This is a major step back.

We've been up and coming for half a decade now except we keep losing All-Star talent and replacing them with end of bench fodder. I don't understand how fans are so surprised that half conference has passed us by. We're running a marathon when the race is a sprint.
Who'd a thunk losing more talent in multiple consecutive off-seasons than you're brining in would have these kinds of consequences :P

Exactly, people wanted to act like losing Hayward wasn’t a big deal. It’s a flawed roster. But it’s ok we’ll just keep waiting until there’s no more super teams, it worked when waiting out the Warriors. Oh wait the Nets exist now? Guess we’ll need to wait them out too. Then the next super team will form and the process will repeat.

Some people actually rejoiced when Hayward left because they said he was trash and overpaid because he sacrificed his own output to take a back seat and a supporting role to the Jays who were both trying to get paid. Sometimes it's only when the player leaves that fans realize that he was actually a key part of success.
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Re: Celtics (21-22) at Bucks (28-14) Game #44 3/24/21
« Reply #475 on: March 25, 2021, 12:24:21 AM »

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Some of you are being way too nice. Don’t get me wrong I’m not crying over this loss but this team deserves 0 credit. The only reason they even had to comeback was because they, as usual, played with sticks up with their butts for at least two quarters.

Play hard they would have won. I’m done with moral victories, the only acceptable loss is when they play hard and lose ( like our bad but hard working 15-17 teams).

Yeah, those 2015-2017 teams had a strong mentality. Even in losing, they still fought hard.

This team? All this talent and still losing games left and right? Pretty much the same team that made it to the ECF 6 months ago? Downright embarrassing!

Exactly from possible title contender to this. It is embarrassing.

Lol. We we're never a title contender this year. That was the biggest preseason myth. It was cute, but it was never realistic.

Cute?  lol

Last year they were up and coming. This is a major step back.

We've been up and coming for half a decade now except we keep losing All-Star talent and replacing them with end of bench fodder. I don't understand how fans are so surprised that half conference has passed us by. We're running a marathon when the race is a sprint.
Who'd a thunk losing more talent in multiple consecutive off-seasons than you're brining in would have these kinds of consequences :P

Exactly, people wanted to act like losing Hayward wasn’t a big deal. It’s a flawed roster. But it’s ok we’ll just keep waiting until there’s no more super teams, it worked when waiting out the Warriors. Oh wait the Nets exist now? Guess we’ll need to wait them out too. Then the next super team will form and the process will repeat.

Some people actually rejoiced when Hayward left because they said he was trash and overpaid because he sacrificed his own output to take a back seat and a supporting role to the Jays who were both trying to get paid. Sometimes it's only when the player leaves that fans realize that he was actually a key part of success.
Those takes are brutal to look back on, especially with how good Hayward has been
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PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

Re: Celtics (21-22) at Bucks (28-14) Game #44 3/24/21
« Reply #476 on: March 25, 2021, 12:33:27 AM »

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IMHO it's not effort that holds this team back. 

All game long, I watch guys overcommit on help, help when they shouldn't, lose guys off ball, miss rotations, miss extra passes, force contested shots, and miss assignments on the glass.  Effort is an element to some of these things for sure, but overall I think the biggest problem is that we just don't know how to play together.  We don't trust each other at all.  We aren't on the same page together at all. 

I've been in Stevens' corner but admittedly I'm wavering.  I'm not used to seeing this out of his teams.  In the past, his teams have been characterized by disciplined defense that often outweighed the sum of its parts and an egalitarian offense with a lot of shared responsibility.  This year I don't see any of that.  I do not think he is a bad coach.  I think he has his flaws, but is a good coach overall.  But I'm opening to the idea that this group of players just isn't listening to him.  And if that's the case, maybe it's time that we find a new voice. 

For the record, that may not solve anything.  It may very well be an issue with this group of players, rather than this coach.  But the grass on the other side of that fence is starting to look pretty [dang]ed green to me, compared with where we're sitting now.

The C's were 48-24 in the regular season last year, then started 6-0 in the playoffs, and were on the brink of being 7-0 when that meltdown happened with half a second left against Toronto.

IMO they have been a bad team ever since then. Not trusting each other, playing tight. Choking games away, blowing leads, making terrible decisions late. They were mentally weak against the Heat, and are mentally weak now.

They look tight, and almost passive-aggressive, full of negative energy on the court. Notice how there is a delay on their passes to teammates. It's almost as if they don't really want to pass, and the ball always gets there a split-second late, just late enough for the defense to adjust. It is amazing to watch.

They self-sabotage.

IMO that speaks to leadership issues. And what is the pecking order, exactly? Smart jacks up bad shots at will late, and Tatum and Brown don't say a word. This is a problem. The kids are better than the "leader" of the team. Notice that Brown (and the whole team) plays more aggressively and decisively when Tatum is out. He knows he is the true alpha and attacks relentlessly. But things get murkier when both he and Tatum are together. And then Smart is also doing his thing.

It's a strange situation. But it's one the coach should have a handle on. Morale, setting defined roles, those are the coach's responsibilities.

Things have spiraled. Misfortune has crushed this team's spirit, and the young guys don't know how to bounce back. Brad Stevens is too close to this situation and maybe isn't seeing the forest through the trees.

Might be time for a new voice.

Re: Celtics (21-22) at Bucks (28-14) Game #44 3/24/21
« Reply #477 on: March 25, 2021, 07:15:22 AM »

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I am a harsh Grant Williams critic but he played hard last night and that is what I want to see with him as he needs to do so.  He still did not produce much during his almost 20 minutes but he was impactful


https://twitter.com/NBCSCeltics/status/1374893269692334081

They are fighting with each other.   I do think it did help when Marcus yelled at Tatum though because it started the comeback.

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They self-sabotage.

IMO that speaks to leadership issues. And what is the pecking order, exactly? Smart jacks up bad shots at will late, and Tatum and Brown don't say a word. This is a problem. The kids are better than the "leader" of the team. Notice that Brown (and the whole team) plays more aggressively and decisively when Tatum is out. He knows he is the true alpha and attacks relentlessly. But things get murkier when both he and Tatum are together. And then Smart is also doing his thing.

It's a strange situation. But it's one the coach should have a handle on. Morale, setting defined roles, those are the coach's responsibilities.

Things have spiraled. Misfortune has crushed this team's spirit, and the young guys don't know how to bounce back. Brad Stevens is too close to this situation and maybe isn't seeing the forest through the trees.

We seem to need a shakeup.   

We have other problems though we bled out talent that left and had some bad draft picks that is on Ainge.   But is there a deeper reason guys can't wait to leave Boston.   I know the expectations are high, the press can be harsh but are their other things going on?

Re: Celtics (21-22) at Bucks (28-14) Game #44 3/24/21
« Reply #478 on: March 25, 2021, 07:41:11 AM »

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In fourth quarters this season Marcus Smart's now shooting 28.3 percent overall and 8.0 percent from three (2 for 25).

https://twitter.com/adamhimmelsbach/status/1374923037619937280?s=21

Re: Celtics (21-22) at Bucks (28-14) Game #44 3/24/21
« Reply #479 on: March 25, 2021, 07:53:20 AM »

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If we had a bench, we win this game
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin