Daniel Theis' Next Contract

[Jvalin]

https://twitter.com/JaredWeissNBA/status/1371286714631720963?s=20

Jared Weiss: ''Brad Stevens said he talked to Daniel Theis at halftime, who barely played tonight after starting. Stevens says they are going to have to limit the center rotation to just two guys between Theis, TT and Time Lord as the season goes on and they look to play smaller''.

Not sure whether Danny is willing to pay Theis. If not, now is the time to trade him.

How about Theis and 2021 Celtics FRP (top 4 protected) to Charlotte
For Nick Richards and Charlotte 2023 FRP (top 4 protected) and only if our pick converts to them;
We roll forward our pick in a way to have more for future trades.
If we win the lottery - well we gave away Theis for nothing but have a hell of a pick to play with. Otherwise avoids having to add yet another rookie to the roster next year.

Not sure why we’d want a project big and a likely non-lotto pick for Theis and a non-lotto pick. Seems like a sell-low

He ain't worth a lotto pick. Wonder whether we could get a protected first from the Raps.



Baynes is a shell of himself this season. I guess he'd be a decent 3rd stringer behind Thompson and Time Lord. The second year on his contract is a team option. He's practically an expiring.


Off the top of my head, here are some other teams that could have a use for Theis.

Hornets: Theis would be starting over Zeller.

Wizards: Assuming they are still interested in making the playoffs, Theis would be starting over Wagner.

Nuggets: I could see Theis battling it out with Millsap for the starting PF spot.

Blazers: I could see Theis battling it out with Kanter for the starting C spot.

Mavs: I could see Theis battling it out with Kleber for the starting PF spot.

Nets: Not sure what they have to offer.

Clips: Would they do Theis for Zubac? Probably not, plus Zubac would be a bad fit in our defensive system.

[jambr380]

Early in the season, I mentioned how I thought they should give each of the Centers every 3rd game off to keep them fresh in a condensed season, while also allowing them to play big rotation minutes. With Brad's recent comments, this makes more sense than ever.

Personally, I would rather deal Thompson - especially if we use most of the MLE (in order to stay under the tax) - but I don't know that's how the organization sees it. I don't see Theis making more than Thompson-level money (maybe even less), so he should be easy enough to re-sign.

But, if they are not going to play him, then I would hope they would try and trade him for some value. Theis is just too good to be a 3rd string Center (pick up Dedmon or Cousins for that if needed).

[Celtics2021]

Early in the season, I mentioned how I thought they should give each of the Centers every 3rd game off to keep them fresh in a condensed season, while also allowing them to play big rotation minutes. With Brad's recent comments, this makes more sense than ever.

Personally, I would rather deal Thompson - especially if we use most of the MLE (in order to stay under the tax) - but I don't know that's how the organization sees it. I don't see Theis making more than Thompson-level money (maybe even less), so he should be easy enough to re-sign.

But, if they are not going to play him, then I would hope they would try and trade him for some value. Theis is just too good to be a 3rd string Center (pick up Dedmon or Cousins for that if needed).

With a couple of back-to-backs in the next week, I’d expect to see something like that, both for keeping players fresh and continuing to showcase all three centers in advance of the trade deadline.

[Rikibellevie]

The 2 big lineup leads many time to bad start so glad to see that. Theis or TT bring different things, no matter who we keep I am OK with that.

But this news may show two positiv things :
_ Brad really want to play more TL
_ TL can't take all Theis minutes and I don't expect Brad thinking that the key is giving more playing time ti G Will or Ojeleye. So it is maybe the sign we are close to sign a stretch 4/3

[radiohead]

The 2 big lineup leads many time to bad start so glad to see that. Theis or TT bring different things, no matter who we keep I am OK with that.

But this news may show two positiv things :
_ Brad really want to play more TL
_ TL can't take all Theis minutes and I don't expect Brad thinking that the key is giving more playing time ti G Will or Ojeleye. So it is maybe the sign we are close to sign a stretch 4/3

LaMarcus Aldridge perhaps?

[Celtics2021]

The 2 big lineup leads many time to bad start so glad to see that. Theis or TT bring different things, no matter who we keep I am OK with that.

But this news may show two positiv things :
_ Brad really want to play more TL
_ TL can't take all Theis minutes and I don't expect Brad thinking that the key is giving more playing time ti G Will or Ojeleye. So it is maybe the sign we are close to sign a stretch 4/3

LaMarcus Aldridge perhaps?

How does getting LaMarcus Aldridge for Theis (and whatever else) mean that we would still not have 3 centers for two rotation spots?

[radiohead]

The 2 big lineup leads many time to bad start so glad to see that. Theis or TT bring different things, no matter who we keep I am OK with that.

But this news may show two positiv things :
_ Brad really want to play more TL
_ TL can't take all Theis minutes and I don't expect Brad thinking that the key is giving more playing time ti G Will or Ojeleye. So it is maybe the sign we are close to sign a stretch 4/3

LaMarcus Aldridge perhaps?

How does getting LaMarcus Aldridge for Theis (and whatever else) mean that we would still not have 3 centers for two rotation spots?

I’m just basing this on the reports that the Celtics are one of the teams that are interested to get Aldridge. The Blazers and the Heat are supposedly in pursuit of LMA as well.

[Tr1boy]

MLE on a different team.

#freetimelord

[NKY fan]

MLE on a different team.

#freetimelord

If and that is a big if given TL defensive improvements in the last month or so ...shouldn't we sell high on him? Like is it possible that right now TL has its peak trade value? Maybe one for one trade for H. Barnes is best way to contend this year?

[nickagneta]

https://twitter.com/JaredWeissNBA/status/1371286714631720963?s=20

Jared Weiss: ''Brad Stevens said he talked to Daniel Theis at halftime, who barely played tonight after starting. Stevens says they are going to have to limit the center rotation to just two guys between Theis, TT and Time Lord as the season goes on and they look to play smaller''.

Not sure whether Danny is willing to pay Theis. If not, now is the time to trade him.

How about Theis and 2021 Celtics FRP (top 4 protected) to Charlotte
For Nick Richards and Charlotte 2023 FRP (top 4 protected) and only if our pick converts to them;
We roll forward our pick in a way to have more for future trades.
If we win the lottery - well we gave away Theis for nothing but have a hell of a pick to play with. Otherwise avoids having to add yet another rookie to the roster next year.

Not sure why we’d want a project big and a likely non-lotto pick for Theis and a non-lotto pick. Seems like a sell-low

He ain't worth a lotto pick. Wonder whether we could get a protected first from the Raps.



Baynes is a shell of himself this season. I guess he'd be a decent 3rd stringer behind Thompson and Time Lord. The second year on his contract is a team option. He's practically an expiring.


Off the top of my head, here are some other teams that could have a use for Theis.

Hornets: Theis would be starting over Zeller.

Wizards: Assuming they are still interested in making the playoffs, Theis would be starting over Wagner.

Nuggets: I could see Theis battling it out with Millsap for the starting PF spot.

Blazers: I could see Theis battling it out with Kanter for the starting C spot.

Mavs: I could see Theis battling it out with Kleber for the starting PF spot.

Nets: Not sure what they have to offer.

Clips: Would they do Theis for Zubac? Probably not, plus Zubac would be a bad fit in our defensive system.

If Stevens is saying the rotation has to get down to 2 centers, why are you doing  trade proposals that bring back another center. The point of trading Theis is that we have too many centers and need to move one so move the guy that will be looking to get paid next year but not be worth it.

I would use Theis with the TPE to bring in someone. Using Theis(and maybe Edwards or Langford or Nesmith) in that trade means Ainge can look to trade guys making upwards of $20 million a year into that TPE and still stay below the luxury tax line.

[Celtics2021]

https://twitter.com/JaredWeissNBA/status/1371286714631720963?s=20

Jared Weiss: ''Brad Stevens said he talked to Daniel Theis at halftime, who barely played tonight after starting. Stevens says they are going to have to limit the center rotation to just two guys between Theis, TT and Time Lord as the season goes on and they look to play smaller''.

Not sure whether Danny is willing to pay Theis. If not, now is the time to trade him.

How about Theis and 2021 Celtics FRP (top 4 protected) to Charlotte
For Nick Richards and Charlotte 2023 FRP (top 4 protected) and only if our pick converts to them;
We roll forward our pick in a way to have more for future trades.
If we win the lottery - well we gave away Theis for nothing but have a hell of a pick to play with. Otherwise avoids having to add yet another rookie to the roster next year.

Not sure why we’d want a project big and a likely non-lotto pick for Theis and a non-lotto pick. Seems like a sell-low

He ain't worth a lotto pick. Wonder whether we could get a protected first from the Raps.



Baynes is a shell of himself this season. I guess he'd be a decent 3rd stringer behind Thompson and Time Lord. The second year on his contract is a team option. He's practically an expiring.


Off the top of my head, here are some other teams that could have a use for Theis.

Hornets: Theis would be starting over Zeller.

Wizards: Assuming they are still interested in making the playoffs, Theis would be starting over Wagner.

Nuggets: I could see Theis battling it out with Millsap for the starting PF spot.

Blazers: I could see Theis battling it out with Kanter for the starting C spot.

Mavs: I could see Theis battling it out with Kleber for the starting PF spot.

Nets: Not sure what they have to offer.

Clips: Would they do Theis for Zubac? Probably not, plus Zubac would be a bad fit in our defensive system.

If Stevens is saying the rotation has to get down to 2 centers, why are you doing  trade proposals that bring back another center. The point of trading Theis is that we have too many centers and need to move one so move the guy that will be looking to get paid next year but not be worth it.

I would use Theis with the TPE to bring in someone. Using Theis(and maybe Edwards or Langford or Nesmith) in that trade means Ainge can look to trade guys making upwards of $20 million a year into that TPE and still stay below the luxury tax line.

Yeah, the bringing back a center doesn't make as much sense.  But in a universe where, for example, Theis returns a first from Toronto, you could turn the deal into Baynes and the pick going to a third party, maybe with additional compensation as well.  For example, Nesmith, Baynes, and the Toronto 1st to SAC for Barnes, to CLE for Nance, or to ORL for Gordon.  I've felt for at least a month that DAL would be interested in Theis, and could send out their most recent 1st (Josh Green) to acquire him, and one could use Green in a 3-way deal for a "Swing".  Nance is my preferred, because he could be acquired just with regular salary matching and not the TPE, but all three work.

[wdleehi]

I just don't see Theis being the Center losing out on minutes when the playoffs happen.   He is also the Center I don't see needing as many minutes to be prepared.



Williams needs the minutes to improve and play important minutes.

Thomas needs minutes to create chemistry (and keep trade value)

[Celtics2021]

I just don't see Theis being the Center losing out on minutes when the playoffs happen.   He is also the Center I don't see needing as many minutes to be prepared.



Williams needs the minutes to improve and play important minutes.

Thomas needs minutes to create chemistry (and keep trade value)

But Theis is probably the easiest center to trade in a small-to-medium move, as he’s expiring and his contract is not prohibitive for any contender.

[Jvalin]

https://twitter.com/JaredWeissNBA/status/1371286714631720963?s=20

Jared Weiss: ''Brad Stevens said he talked to Daniel Theis at halftime, who barely played tonight after starting. Stevens says they are going to have to limit the center rotation to just two guys between Theis, TT and Time Lord as the season goes on and they look to play smaller''.

Not sure whether Danny is willing to pay Theis. If not, now is the time to trade him.

How about Theis and 2021 Celtics FRP (top 4 protected) to Charlotte
For Nick Richards and Charlotte 2023 FRP (top 4 protected) and only if our pick converts to them;
We roll forward our pick in a way to have more for future trades.
If we win the lottery - well we gave away Theis for nothing but have a hell of a pick to play with. Otherwise avoids having to add yet another rookie to the roster next year.

Not sure why we’d want a project big and a likely non-lotto pick for Theis and a non-lotto pick. Seems like a sell-low

He ain't worth a lotto pick. Wonder whether we could get a protected first from the Raps.



Baynes is a shell of himself this season. I guess he'd be a decent 3rd stringer behind Thompson and Time Lord. The second year on his contract is a team option. He's practically an expiring.


Off the top of my head, here are some other teams that could have a use for Theis.

Hornets: Theis would be starting over Zeller.

Wizards: Assuming they are still interested in making the playoffs, Theis would be starting over Wagner.

Nuggets: I could see Theis battling it out with Millsap for the starting PF spot.

Blazers: I could see Theis battling it out with Kanter for the starting C spot.

Mavs: I could see Theis battling it out with Kleber for the starting PF spot.

Nets: Not sure what they have to offer.

Clips: Would they do Theis for Zubac? Probably not, plus Zubac would be a bad fit in our defensive system.

If Stevens is saying the rotation has to get down to 2 centers, why are you doing  trade proposals that bring back another center. The point of trading Theis is that we have too many centers and need to move one so move the guy that will be looking to get paid next year but not be worth it.

I would use Theis with the TPE to bring in someone. Using Theis(and maybe Edwards or Langford or Nesmith) in that trade means Ainge can look to trade guys making upwards of $20 million a year into that TPE and still stay below the luxury tax line.

Injuries happen. We'd still need a 3rd stringer. Theis is too good for that role. G-Will ain't tall/long enough to play full time at the 5.

Couldn't care less about Baynes. I just assume that the Raps would want to get rid of him. It's the pick that I care about.

I mentioned Zubac because he'd be the obvious choice from the Clips point of view. They already got 2 starting-caliber Centers in Ibaka and Zubac. Adding Theis seems like an overkill. Don't think they'd swap Zubac for Theis though. In a vacuum, imo Zubac is already better, plus he's considerably younger. Obviously, they are very different players on both sides of the floor.

[wdleehi]

I just don't see Theis being the Center losing out on minutes when the playoffs happen.   He is also the Center I don't see needing as many minutes to be prepared.



Williams needs the minutes to improve and play important minutes.

Thomas needs minutes to create chemistry (and keep trade value)

But Theis is probably the easiest center to trade in a small-to-medium move, as he’s expiring and his contract is not prohibitive for any contender.

Yes, he has the value but what would the Celtics be bringing back that makes it worth it?