What would you be willing to give up for Harrison Barnes?

[GreenlyGreeny]

He’s definitely in a slump right now.  Last 5 games:  12-for-39 overall, 2-for-17 3PT, 7.4 points per game.

Trying to force his way to Boston Golden State

Fixed. Seriously, how are we going to beat a package like this:

https://tradenba.com/trades/l6GzPFCEZ

When Klay is back next year, it’s a re-run of the OG Warriors with the addition of Wiggins (unless they dip him for someone else who’s a better fit), Wiseman and younger depth. Declining contract so much more preferable for GSW than re-signing Oubre, whereas Kings will see Oubre as an upgrade with a better timeline. Plus, a 2022 first? No way can we top that...frankly, GSW make that move and I’d put them as a top five team next year if Klay returns to form like KD has...

Really don’t think we have a shot at Barnes...

[nickagneta]

He’s definitely in a slump right now.  Last 5 games:  12-for-39 overall, 2-for-17 3PT, 7.4 points per game.

Trying to force his way to Boston Golden State

Fixed. Seriously, how are we going to beat a package like this:

https://tradenba.com/trades/l6GzPFCEZ

When Klay is back next year, it’s a re-run of the OG Warriors with the addition of Wiggins (unless they dip him for someone else who’s a better fit), Wiseman and younger depth. Declining contract so much more preferable for GSW than re-signing Oubre, whereas Kings will see Oubre as an upgrade with a better timeline. Plus, a 2022 first? No way can we top that...frankly, GSW make that move and I’d put them as a top five team next year if Klay returns to form like KD has...

Really don’t think we have a shot at Barnes...

No way GSW takes on $3.5 million in salary to do this trade to compete next year as it adds about $16+ million in luxury tax this year. GSW are more likely to salary dump Oubre and reduce their tax bill by $60+ million.

[GreenlyGreeny]

He’s definitely in a slump right now.  Last 5 games:  12-for-39 overall, 2-for-17 3PT, 7.4 points per game.

Trying to force his way to Boston Golden State

Fixed. Seriously, how are we going to beat a package like this:

https://tradenba.com/trades/l6GzPFCEZ

When Klay is back next year, it’s a re-run of the OG Warriors with the addition of Wiggins (unless they dip him for someone else who’s a better fit), Wiseman and younger depth. Declining contract so much more preferable for GSW than re-signing Oubre, whereas Kings will see Oubre as an upgrade with a better timeline. Plus, a 2022 first? No way can we top that...frankly, GSW make that move and I’d put them as a top five team next year if Klay returns to form like KD has...

Really don’t think we have a shot at Barnes...

No way GSW takes on $3.5 million in salary to do this trade to compete next year as it adds about $16+ million in luxury tax this year. GSW are more likely to salary dump Oubre and reduce their tax bill by $60+ million.

So they do a series of moves like this to dump $12 million now and another $14.5 million at the end of the season. They’d be positioned next year with Curry, Klay, Barnes, Collins, Wiseman, Green and their 2021 1st if they finish in the top 20:

https://tradenba.com/trades/4nmMBnIXc

They’re going to outbid us for Barnes no matter what. They could probably even outbid us for Collins if they really wanted him.

Unlike us, they don’t care about the luxury tax and they have actual assets.

[footey]

Kings losing streak now at 6 games.

Tick tick tick

[nickagneta]

He’s definitely in a slump right now.  Last 5 games:  12-for-39 overall, 2-for-17 3PT, 7.4 points per game.

Trying to force his way to Boston Golden State

Fixed. Seriously, how are we going to beat a package like this:

https://tradenba.com/trades/l6GzPFCEZ

When Klay is back next year, it’s a re-run of the OG Warriors with the addition of Wiggins (unless they dip him for someone else who’s a better fit), Wiseman and younger depth. Declining contract so much more preferable for GSW than re-signing Oubre, whereas Kings will see Oubre as an upgrade with a better timeline. Plus, a 2022 first? No way can we top that...frankly, GSW make that move and I’d put them as a top five team next year if Klay returns to form like KD has...

Really don’t think we have a shot at Barnes...

No way GSW takes on $3.5 million in salary to do this trade to compete next year as it adds about $16+ million in luxury tax this year. GSW are more likely to salary dump Oubre and reduce their tax bill by $60+ million.

So they do a series of moves like this to dump $12 million now and another $14.5 million at the end of the season. They’d be positioned next year with Curry, Klay, Barnes, Collins, Wiseman, Green and their 2021 1st if they finish in the top 20:

https://tradenba.com/trades/4nmMBnIXc

They’re going to outbid us for Barnes no matter what. They could probably even outbid us for Collins if they really wanted him.

Unlike us, they don’t care about the luxury tax and they have actual assets.

Ridiculously convoluted trade that is terrible for two teams.

It is much more logical that GSW attempts to dump a bunch of salary this year by moving on from Wiggins or Oubre than it does to attempt a 14-18 player trade with 4-5 teams, moving so, so much salary that they end up with desirable players and taking on tens of millions less salary.

[GreenlyGreeny]

He’s definitely in a slump right now.  Last 5 games:  12-for-39 overall, 2-for-17 3PT, 7.4 points per game.

Trying to force his way to Boston Golden State

Fixed. Seriously, how are we going to beat a package like this:

https://tradenba.com/trades/l6GzPFCEZ

When Klay is back next year, it’s a re-run of the OG Warriors with the addition of Wiggins (unless they dip him for someone else who’s a better fit), Wiseman and younger depth. Declining contract so much more preferable for GSW than re-signing Oubre, whereas Kings will see Oubre as an upgrade with a better timeline. Plus, a 2022 first? No way can we top that...frankly, GSW make that move and I’d put them as a top five team next year if Klay returns to form like KD has...

Really don’t think we have a shot at Barnes...

No way GSW takes on $3.5 million in salary to do this trade to compete next year as it adds about $16+ million in luxury tax this year. GSW are more likely to salary dump Oubre and reduce their tax bill by $60+ million.

So they do a series of moves like this to dump $12 million now and another $14.5 million at the end of the season. They’d be positioned next year with Curry, Klay, Barnes, Collins, Wiseman, Green and their 2021 1st if they finish in the top 20:

https://tradenba.com/trades/4nmMBnIXc

They’re going to outbid us for Barnes no matter what. They could probably even outbid us for Collins if they really wanted him.

Unlike us, they don’t care about the luxury tax and they have actual assets.

Ridiculously convoluted trade that is terrible for two teams.

It is much more logical that GSW attempts to dump a bunch of salary this year by moving on from Wiggins or Oubre than it does to attempt a 14-18 player trade with 4-5 teams, moving so, so much salary that they end up with desirable players and taking on tens of millions less salary.

Admittedly, it was convoluted when one considers they have the assets to do this instead:

https://tradenba.com/trades/HHlYOfUuU

What’s most likely is that GSW will continue to not care about the luxury tax (the ticket prices in Silicon Valley during the championship-runs were world-class). They have the assets to really create a monster for next year. If they want Barnes or Collins, they’re going to get them over us...

Here’s a convoluted four-team way for the Warriors to really reload:  https://tradenba.com/trades/f1x-iVLLV

Moving D’Angelo for those Minnesota picks was key.

[Rondo9]

He’s definitely in a slump right now.  Last 5 games:  12-for-39 overall, 2-for-17 3PT, 7.4 points per game.

Trying to force his way to Boston Golden State

Fixed. Seriously, how are we going to beat a package like this:

https://tradenba.com/trades/l6GzPFCEZ

When Klay is back next year, it’s a re-run of the OG Warriors with the addition of Wiggins (unless they dip him for someone else who’s a better fit), Wiseman and younger depth. Declining contract so much more preferable for GSW than re-signing Oubre, whereas Kings will see Oubre as an upgrade with a better timeline. Plus, a 2022 first? No way can we top that...frankly, GSW make that move and I’d put them as a top five team next year if Klay returns to form like KD has...

Really don’t think we have a shot at Barnes...

No way GSW takes on $3.5 million in salary to do this trade to compete next year as it adds about $16+ million in luxury tax this year. GSW are more likely to salary dump Oubre and reduce their tax bill by $60+ million.

So they do a series of moves like this to dump $12 million now and another $14.5 million at the end of the season. They’d be positioned next year with Curry, Klay, Barnes, Collins, Wiseman, Green and their 2021 1st if they finish in the top 20:

https://tradenba.com/trades/4nmMBnIXc

They’re going to outbid us for Barnes no matter what. They could probably even outbid us for Collins if they really wanted him.

Unlike us, they don’t care about the luxury tax and they have actual assets.

Ridiculously convoluted trade that is terrible for two teams.

It is much more logical that GSW attempts to dump a bunch of salary this year by moving on from Wiggins or Oubre than it does to attempt a 14-18 player trade with 4-5 teams, moving so, so much salary that they end up with desirable players and taking on tens of millions less salary.

Admittedly, it was convoluted when one considers they have the assets to do this instead:

https://tradenba.com/trades/HHlYOfUuU

What’s most likely is that GSW will continue to not care about the luxury tax (the ticket prices in Silicon Valley during the championship-runs were world-class). They have the assets to really create a monster for next year. If they want Barnes or Collins, they’re going to get them over us...

Is this based off facts? Or your conjecture?

[GreenlyGreeny]

He’s definitely in a slump right now.  Last 5 games:  12-for-39 overall, 2-for-17 3PT, 7.4 points per game.

Trying to force his way to Boston Golden State

Fixed. Seriously, how are we going to beat a package like this:

https://tradenba.com/trades/l6GzPFCEZ

When Klay is back next year, it’s a re-run of the OG Warriors with the addition of Wiggins (unless they dip him for someone else who’s a better fit), Wiseman and younger depth. Declining contract so much more preferable for GSW than re-signing Oubre, whereas Kings will see Oubre as an upgrade with a better timeline. Plus, a 2022 first? No way can we top that...frankly, GSW make that move and I’d put them as a top five team next year if Klay returns to form like KD has...

Really don’t think we have a shot at Barnes...

No way GSW takes on $3.5 million in salary to do this trade to compete next year as it adds about $16+ million in luxury tax this year. GSW are more likely to salary dump Oubre and reduce their tax bill by $60+ million.

So they do a series of moves like this to dump $12 million now and another $14.5 million at the end of the season. They’d be positioned next year with Curry, Klay, Barnes, Collins, Wiseman, Green and their 2021 1st if they finish in the top 20:

https://tradenba.com/trades/4nmMBnIXc

They’re going to outbid us for Barnes no matter what. They could probably even outbid us for Collins if they really wanted him.

Unlike us, they don’t care about the luxury tax and they have actual assets.

Ridiculously convoluted trade that is terrible for two teams.

It is much more logical that GSW attempts to dump a bunch of salary this year by moving on from Wiggins or Oubre than it does to attempt a 14-18 player trade with 4-5 teams, moving so, so much salary that they end up with desirable players and taking on tens of millions less salary.

Admittedly, it was convoluted when one considers they have the assets to do this instead:

https://tradenba.com/trades/HHlYOfUuU

What’s most likely is that GSW will continue to not care about the luxury tax (the ticket prices in Silicon Valley during the championship-runs were world-class). They have the assets to really create a monster for next year. If they want Barnes or Collins, they’re going to get them over us...

Is this based off facts? Or your conjecture?

It’s only not a fact if we think our picks are better than the 2021 Minnesota pick. Or if we think our useless bench has players with more value than Wiggins or Oubre.

Fact: We do not have any excess assets left, but other teams do...

[Rondo9]

He’s definitely in a slump right now.  Last 5 games:  12-for-39 overall, 2-for-17 3PT, 7.4 points per game.

Trying to force his way to Boston Golden State

Fixed. Seriously, how are we going to beat a package like this:

https://tradenba.com/trades/l6GzPFCEZ

When Klay is back next year, it’s a re-run of the OG Warriors with the addition of Wiggins (unless they dip him for someone else who’s a better fit), Wiseman and younger depth. Declining contract so much more preferable for GSW than re-signing Oubre, whereas Kings will see Oubre as an upgrade with a better timeline. Plus, a 2022 first? No way can we top that...frankly, GSW make that move and I’d put them as a top five team next year if Klay returns to form like KD has...

Really don’t think we have a shot at Barnes...

No way GSW takes on $3.5 million in salary to do this trade to compete next year as it adds about $16+ million in luxury tax this year. GSW are more likely to salary dump Oubre and reduce their tax bill by $60+ million.

So they do a series of moves like this to dump $12 million now and another $14.5 million at the end of the season. They’d be positioned next year with Curry, Klay, Barnes, Collins, Wiseman, Green and their 2021 1st if they finish in the top 20:

https://tradenba.com/trades/4nmMBnIXc

They’re going to outbid us for Barnes no matter what. They could probably even outbid us for Collins if they really wanted him.

Unlike us, they don’t care about the luxury tax and they have actual assets.

Ridiculously convoluted trade that is terrible for two teams.

It is much more logical that GSW attempts to dump a bunch of salary this year by moving on from Wiggins or Oubre than it does to attempt a 14-18 player trade with 4-5 teams, moving so, so much salary that they end up with desirable players and taking on tens of millions less salary.

Admittedly, it was convoluted when one considers they have the assets to do this instead:

https://tradenba.com/trades/HHlYOfUuU

What’s most likely is that GSW will continue to not care about the luxury tax (the ticket prices in Silicon Valley during the championship-runs were world-class). They have the assets to really create a monster for next year. If they want Barnes or Collins, they’re going to get them over us...

Is this based off facts? Or your conjecture?

It’s only not a fact if we think our picks are better than the 2021 Minnesota pick. Or if we think our useless bench has players with more value than Wiggins or Oubre.

Fact: We do not have any excess assets left, but other teams do...

Okay...... but why would the Warriors go for convoluted trades when they could stay put?

[Phantom255x]

Langford, 1 of Edwards/Green + 2 first round picks (ours this year + a future one Top-10 protected)

I'm not willing to give up Nesmith or Timelord for him. Frankly I don't even think it should take that given his salary. The TPE is what's supposed to theoretically help us here. Not every team can just trade for and absorb Barnes or another high-salary player

[knuckleballer]

Sacramento has now lost 8 straight games.  Get it done.  GWill and a first.  His value to the Celtics will succeed his individual talent.  Having another player that Tatum will trust will largely right the ship.

[jambr380]

Sacramento has now lost 8 straight games.  Get it done.  GWill and a first.  His value to the Celtics will succeed his individual talent.  Having another player that Tatum will trust will largely right the ship.

One thing I am 99% sure of is that Ainge is not going to go into the tax this season. It was always unlikely, but with us now playing under .500 ball, it makes no sense not to re-start the clock on the tax. That means, any deal with Barnes pretty much starts and ends with Thompson. If we could get him for TT and a 1st or TT, Grant, and a 1st, then sure; but our team is not exactly looking like buyers at this point.

[footey]

Sacramento has now lost 8 straight games.  Get it done.  GWill and a first.  His value to the Celtics will succeed his individual talent.  Having another player that Tatum will trust will largely right the ship.

If G Will and a first is all it took, would have been done already.

On other hand, if we keep losing, we should make sure that 1st round pick is lottery protected, LOL.

[Muzzy66]

I went with the second option. 

I don't mind giving up Nesmith and I really don't care at all for Romeo.  Fine with giving up a pick or two.  Would rather not give up Smart, but willing to if it came to that.

He's not a big name, but he's putting up 16 PPG on 50/40/80 this year along with strong defence, and his combination of length and athleticism allows him good versatility.  The loss of Hayward is a big reason why the Celtics are playing so much worse this year, and Barnes would mostly fill in that gap. 

Having a starting 5 of Kemba/Brown/Barnes/Tatum/Theis would also give Boston a pretty big overall lineup that could switch very effectively on defence, and every one of those guys can score from three, from midrange and inside.  It would be a touch matchup.

We would miss those big game winning defensive plays that Smart makes from time to time, for sure.  But we'd also miss some of the big unforced turnovers and bad shots he has a tendency to lose us games with as well.  I think swapping Smart for Barnes would make the team less volatile and more consistent from game to game, which is something this team IMHO desperately needs.

[Jvalin]

I've refrained from voting in the poll cause I'm not even sure I'd give up a first for him. On second thought, I'd only pull the trigger if the deal involved Kemba (I guess it would have to be a 3-way). Imo, you guys massively overvalue Barnes. He ain't worth 20 million a year. Rule of thumb is that overpaid players on long-term contacts have negative trade value. A few months ago, Kings fans were willing to throw in a pick in order to get rid of Barnes. Sure, he's having a nice individual season, but he ain't a difference maker. He'd be a role player in our system. You guys would sacrifice multiple assets for an overpaid role player? With all due respect, this is ridiculous.