Saving the TPE

[Jiri Welsch]

If we use the TPE this year it should be for a veteran scoring wing, who could fill the Hayward role but come off the bench.

As this year goes along, our big situation will only get better IMO. RWIII will continue to improve and Thompson/Theis will continue to get more comfortable in their role(s).

I don't think Philly is such a juggernaut where we'd need to make a trade just to compensate for one guy. They're bad on the road and barely can beat us at home this year w/o Tatum.

Honestly at this point, I think I want a player that could help jump start this defense.   With the growth we have seen with Brown and Tatum, I am not sure if another playmaker is as needed.   

But a long switchable defender who could play the 4/3........

Basically Harrison Barnes would be the dream but I know there are many challenges in acquiring him.

[Moranis]

Oladipo is probably available.  I'd make that move even if I didn't think or had no intention of signing him this summer because I think Oladipo could actually make a difference in a playoff series. 

Langford, Ojeleye, 2021 1st for Oladipo, Kurucs

Something like that I think make sense for both teams as it gives Houston 2 useful younger players and a draft pick for Oladipo and a guy they aren't playing that has money owed past this year.  Boston adds Oladipo and goes for it this year and gets a low money look at young player on the books for next year.  I'd probably throw in a future protected 1st if that is what it took to get it done.  Boston could also keep Oladipo and potentially move on from Walker at some point, which opens up other possibilities.

Boston post-trade
Starters - Walker, Oladipo, Brown, Tatum, Thompson
Main Rotation - Teague, Pritchard, Smart, Williams, Theis, Williams

That team has a higher ceiling than the current one and I'd take the shot. 

[NKY fan]

Oladipo is probably available.  I'd make that move even if I didn't think or had no intention of signing him this summer because I think Oladipo could actually make a difference in a playoff series. 

Langford, Ojeleye, 2021 1st for Oladipo, Kurucs

Something like that I think make sense for both teams as it gives Houston 2 useful younger players and a draft pick for Oladipo and a guy they aren't playing that has money owed past this year.  Boston adds Oladipo and goes for it this year and gets a low money look at young player on the books for next year.  I'd probably throw in a future protected 1st if that is what it took to get it done.  Boston could also keep Oladipo and potentially move on from Walker at some point, which opens up other possibilities.

Boston post-trade
Starters - Walker, Oladipo, Brown, Tatum, Thompson
Main Rotation - Teague, Pritchard, Smart, Williams, Theis, Williams

That team has a higher ceiling than the current one and I'd take the shot.

That would be another move that sabotages the Js playoffs campaign. It has been apparent that bringing more injury prone max players that take away shots from the jays and play suspect defense only reduces our chances. I think it’s time to bring in players that actually fit - see George Hill, Ariza (if he decides to play) or pj tucker. There are others that would not be liability on the defensive side and and have average efficiency but these are the types of relatively cheap role players we should be looking at. If Kemba is a liability on defense come second round or ECF we should be exploring moving him for the players I described above in a 3 team trade or something like that. I’m not paid to determine whether Kemba is only god for first round matchup or for a deep run but it should be a serious consideration.
Anyway stop sabotaging the Js is my point lol.

[Goldstar88]

If we use the TPE this year it should be for a veteran scoring wing, who could fill the Hayward role but come off the bench.

As this year goes along, our big situation will only get better IMO. RWIII will continue to improve and Thompson/Theis will continue to get more comfortable in their role(s).

I don't think Philly is such a juggernaut where we'd need to make a trade just to compensate for one guy. They're bad on the road and barely can beat us at home this year w/o Tatum.

Come playoff time, Tatum, Smart and Brown will be playing 40mpg. Plus Semi off the bench who has been playing well. You really think adding another wing to give those guys a breather for a few minutes is going to make a difference?

[BMark]

Whether we use the TPE this year or in the offseason says a lot about the direction of the team.  If we use the TPE during the season for a player who "fits", like George Hill, that would suggest the team believes it is a contender this season.  As I believe the Nets will add Drummond as a buyout, this would probably be a mistake.

I would wait until after the season to use the TPE.  I think this team is on the same trajectory as the OKC teams with KD and Harden, where we have young stars, but we still need to build around them in order to contend.

[celts55]

Well, if the Bulls go south, perhaps they would interested in moving Thaddeus Young.

After watching him against the Celtic the other night, I think he would look pretty good.

He's only 32, and I don't believe he makes around 13.5, which isn't crazy now a days.

Just a thought, what do I know.

[Goldstar88]

Oladipo is probably available.  I'd make that move even if I didn't think or had no intention of signing him this summer because I think Oladipo could actually make a difference in a playoff series. 

Langford, Ojeleye, 2021 1st for Oladipo, Kurucs

Something like that I think make sense for both teams as it gives Houston 2 useful younger players and a draft pick for Oladipo and a guy they aren't playing that has money owed past this year.  Boston adds Oladipo and goes for it this year and gets a low money look at young player on the books for next year.  I'd probably throw in a future protected 1st if that is what it took to get it done.  Boston could also keep Oladipo and potentially move on from Walker at some point, which opens up other possibilities.

Boston post-trade
Starters - Walker, Oladipo, Brown, Tatum, Thompson
Main Rotation - Teague, Pritchard, Smart, Williams, Theis, Williams

That team has a higher ceiling than the current one and I'd take the shot.

So lose assets for a guy that is going to possibly make the team marginally better, while taking looks away from Tatum, Brown, and Kemba and minutes away from Pritchard, plus give up current and future assets; just to let Oladipo walk at the end of the year lol.

[Jiri Welsch]

If we use the TPE this year it should be for a veteran scoring wing, who could fill the Hayward role but come off the bench.

As this year goes along, our big situation will only get better IMO. RWIII will continue to improve and Thompson/Theis will continue to get more comfortable in their role(s).

I don't think Philly is such a juggernaut where we'd need to make a trade just to compensate for one guy. They're bad on the road and barely can beat us at home this year w/o Tatum.

Come playoff time, Tatum, Smart and Brown will be playing 40mpg. Plus Semi off the bench who has been playing well. You really think adding another wing to give those guys a breather for a few minutes is going to make a difference?

I do..because there will be times where all four can play at once. And there will be games where Smart needs to be kept in check because he’s flying off the handle with his decision making.

[boscel33]

If we use the TPE this year it should be for a veteran scoring wing, who could fill the Hayward role but come off the bench.

As this year goes along, our big situation will only get better IMO. RWIII will continue to improve and Thompson/Theis will continue to get more comfortable in their role(s).

I don't think Philly is such a juggernaut where we'd need to make a trade just to compensate for one guy. They're bad on the road and barely can beat us at home this year w/o Tatum.

Honestly at this point, I think I want a player that could help jump start this defense.   With the growth we have seen with Brown and Tatum, I am not sure if another playmaker is as needed.   

But a long switchable defender who could play the 4/3........

Basically Harrison Barnes would be the dream but I know there are many challenges in acquiring him.

I've agreed every time someone brought up Barnes.  He's the guy unless you can get Vuc or Gordon from Orlando.

[Goldstar88]

If we use the TPE this year it should be for a veteran scoring wing, who could fill the Hayward role but come off the bench.

As this year goes along, our big situation will only get better IMO. RWIII will continue to improve and Thompson/Theis will continue to get more comfortable in their role(s).

I don't think Philly is such a juggernaut where we'd need to make a trade just to compensate for one guy. They're bad on the road and barely can beat us at home this year w/o Tatum.

Come playoff time, Tatum, Smart and Brown will be playing 40mpg. Plus Semi off the bench who has been playing well. You really think adding another wing to give those guys a breather for a few minutes is going to make a difference?

I do..because there will be times where all four can play at once. And there will be games where Smart needs to be kept in check because he’s flying off the handle with his decision making.

I don’t agree, but the comment about Smart did make me laugh, so thank you for that. Lol

[Moranis]

Oladipo is probably available.  I'd make that move even if I didn't think or had no intention of signing him this summer because I think Oladipo could actually make a difference in a playoff series. 

Langford, Ojeleye, 2021 1st for Oladipo, Kurucs

Something like that I think make sense for both teams as it gives Houston 2 useful younger players and a draft pick for Oladipo and a guy they aren't playing that has money owed past this year.  Boston adds Oladipo and goes for it this year and gets a low money look at young player on the books for next year.  I'd probably throw in a future protected 1st if that is what it took to get it done.  Boston could also keep Oladipo and potentially move on from Walker at some point, which opens up other possibilities.

Boston post-trade
Starters - Walker, Oladipo, Brown, Tatum, Thompson
Main Rotation - Teague, Pritchard, Smart, Williams, Theis, Williams

That team has a higher ceiling than the current one and I'd take the shot.

That would be another move that sabotages the Js playoffs campaign. It has been apparent that bringing more injury prone max players that take away shots from the jays and play suspect defense only reduces our chances. I think it’s time to bring in players that actually fit - see George Hill, Ariza (if he decides to play) or pj tucker. There are others that would not be liability on the defensive side and and have average efficiency but these are the types of relatively cheap role players we should be looking at. If Kemba is a liability on defense come second round or ECF we should be exploring moving him for the players I described above in a 3 team trade or something like that. I’m not paid to determine whether Kemba is only god for first round matchup or for a deep run but it should be a serious consideration.
Anyway stop sabotaging the Js is my point lol.

Tatum and Brown currently aren't good enough to make Boston a contender.  Adding role players isn't going to change the arc of the team.  Boston needs another All NBA caliber player so that they can go 4 deep to have any real shot at competing with the best teams in the sport.  I don't know that Oladipo is that guy or good enough, but he certainly would give Boston a much better shot.  The Hill's and Ariza's of the world don't and it would be a waste to acquire them.

[NKY fan]

Oladipo is probably available.  I'd make that move even if I didn't think or had no intention of signing him this summer because I think Oladipo could actually make a difference in a playoff series. 

Langford, Ojeleye, 2021 1st for Oladipo, Kurucs

Something like that I think make sense for both teams as it gives Houston 2 useful younger players and a draft pick for Oladipo and a guy they aren't playing that has money owed past this year.  Boston adds Oladipo and goes for it this year and gets a low money look at young player on the books for next year.  I'd probably throw in a future protected 1st if that is what it took to get it done.  Boston could also keep Oladipo and potentially move on from Walker at some point, which opens up other possibilities.

Boston post-trade
Starters - Walker, Oladipo, Brown, Tatum, Thompson
Main Rotation - Teague, Pritchard, Smart, Williams, Theis, Williams

That team has a higher ceiling than the current one and I'd take the shot.

That would be another move that sabotages the Js playoffs campaign. It has been apparent that bringing more injury prone max players that take away shots from the jays and play suspect defense only reduces our chances. I think it’s time to bring in players that actually fit - see George Hill, Ariza (if he decides to play) or pj tucker. There are others that would not be liability on the defensive side and and have average efficiency but these are the types of relatively cheap role players we should be looking at. If Kemba is a liability on defense come second round or ECF we should be exploring moving him for the players I described above in a 3 team trade or something like that. I’m not paid to determine whether Kemba is only god for first round matchup or for a deep run but it should be a serious consideration.
Anyway stop sabotaging the Js is my point lol.

Tatum and Brown currently aren't good enough to make Boston a contender.  Adding role players isn't going to change the arc of the team.  Boston needs another All NBA caliber player so that they can go 4 deep to have any real shot at competing with the best teams in the sport.  I don't know that Oladipo is that guy or good enough, but he certainly would give Boston a much better shot.  The Hill's and Ariza's of the world don't and it would be a waste to acquire them.

Been there done that with the four+ all stars. I would pass if I had the option to choose. I guess we disagree

[Sophomore]

In hindsight, swapping TT for Kanter seems like a mistake. Kanter specialized in going against big bodies, better than TT. I don't think TT gives us anything defensively that we don't get from Theis and Rob Williams. Early returns anyway.

This is (1) a good point, and (2) bad. When Kanter gives you better defense than the MLE vet you picked up *for his defense*, that’s really not good.

[Goldstar88]

In hindsight, swapping TT for Kanter seems like a mistake. Kanter specialized in going against big bodies, better than TT. I don't think TT gives us anything defensively that we don't get from Theis and Rob Williams. Early returns anyway.

This is (1) a good point, and (2) bad. When Kanter gives you better defense than the MLE vet you picked up *for his defense*, that’s really not good.

Which is why the Celtics need to strongly consider using the TPE to bring in a better big man. It’s clearly the biggest weakness this team has and the Celtics are going to have to go through Philly, Milwaukee, Brooklyn, or Indiana, all of whom have big,
Physical centers. People keep suggesting using the TPE on a wing which doesn’t make sense considering Smart, Tatum and Brown will be taking virtually all of those minutes come playoff time. We also have Semi off the bench who has been playing good D and is hitting the 3 ball this year, which is all that they need from him. Celtics don’t need more scoring when they have Kemba, Tatum, Brown, Smart, and even Pritchard has been a reliable option thus far. I also believe that Teague will be better once he gets comfortable. Even with his struggles he’s still shooting 42% from 3. There is only one ball to go around.

[NKY fan]

In hindsight, swapping TT for Kanter seems like a mistake. Kanter specialized in going against big bodies, better than TT. I don't think TT gives us anything defensively that we don't get from Theis and Rob Williams. Early returns anyway.

This is (1) a good point, and (2) bad. When Kanter gives you better defense than the MLE vet you picked up *for his defense*, that’s really not good.

Which is why the Celtics need to strongly consider using the TPE to bring in a better big man. It’s clearly the biggest weakness this team has and the Celtics are going to have to go through Philly, Milwaukee, Brooklyn, or Indiana, all of whom have big,
Physical centers. People keep suggesting using the TPE on a wing which doesn’t make sense considering Smart, Tatum and Brown will be taking virtually all of those minutes come playoff time. We also have Semi off the bench who has been playing good D and is hitting the 3 ball this year, which is all that they need from him. Celtics don’t need more scoring when they have Kemba, Tatum, Brown, Smart, and even Pritchard has been a reliable option thus far. I also believe that Teague will be better once he gets comfortable. Even with his struggles he’s still shooting 42% from 3. There is only one ball to go around.

What do you think about Georgui Dieng on the grizzlies? He’s shooting 44% from 3 and 59% from 2. Huge aberrations from his prior seasons. Also 4.4 rebounds in 16 mpg. He’s also taller and possibly  stronger than our 3 centers.
I wish Danny traded for him instead of Tristan.
 Dieng makes $17M and is an expiring contract. He fits in the tpe and we might stay below the tax line too

Memphis owe us for gifting them Bane lol