Buyout Candidates And Remaining FAs

[wdleehi]

Sounds crazy but when it comes to buyouts my principal concern is Brooklyn. That team has absolutely no assets and no bench left. The only way they can improve is through the buyout the market, and I fear there are some front-running players itching to team up with Kyrie/Durant/Harden. Same goes for the Lakers, who seem to corner the market on the best buy outs every year. A major problem for the league that needs to be addressed in the next round of collective bargaining.

That was my first thought.   Hopefully the Nets will be having some chemistry issues during buyout season that makes players pause.   

The other thing that may help is that the Nets are in need of big men more then swing men.   




My true hope is the Celtics make a move with the TPE before that and plug the hole they need to plug thus making the buyout market more of a luxury then a need.

[Silas]

Would love Reddick, a veteran sharp shooter would be huge for this team.

But..
Would be surprised if he was bought out, is he showing age or something? Also, would think there would be a big demand from several teams for his services.

36 years old, and playing terribly for a terrible team.

33% FG%, 30% 3PT%

I never liked him from his days at Duke (I'm a Maryland fan).  However, over the years he has been a stud 3-point shooter.  It appears that age has finally caught up to him.  I would rather see the Cs develop Payton and Aaron as their go to outside shooters, and not spend resources on JJ. 

[Vermont Green]

Andre Drummond

Otto Porter

Derrick Rose

Trevor Ariza

Aldridge / DeRozan / Gay?

J.J. Redick

Some of those guys may be moved at the deadline, as they are on somewhat reasonable contracts. Others may be kept because their team stays in the playoff race.

Any other obvious (or not obvious) candidates?

These would all be players of interest for the Celtics and I think you could add Thad Young to the list of potential targets for the Celtics.  But I am not really expecting any of them to be simply bought out.  And even if they are, the Celtics aren't in a great position to offer much more than Min contracts.

A team might buy out a player to open up a roster spot for a trade or something but more likely, we trade a future pick + TPE for the player they want off the roster (Drummond makes too much but I think we could get most of the others).  Even if the pick is a second rounder, it would be a much better deal for the other team than simply buying the player out.

[bdm860]

My true hope is the Celtics make a move with the TPE before that and plug the hole they need to plug thus making the buyout market more of a luxury then a need.

In a move that's rarely done, the C's could actually use their TPE to claim a player off the waiver wire before he has the chance to choose his own team.

That would be pretty cool.  Most desirable buyout candidate asks for buyout, wants to join Brooklyn or LA, but C's instead swoop in and take him before he clears waivers.

[gouki88]

Porter would be a great fit here. Really good shooter, can play solid defence and is an upgrade on all our bench wings.

Drummond is a curious one. Theis has played 3 elite games over the last 4, and Timelord is a better defender than Thompson, who would be sorta redundant with Drummond. If we could get 2017-18 Drummond, who didn't shoot the ball much at all, passed well and rebounded as per usual. It was also his best defensive year. But who knows if he thinks he's worthy of more shots now...

If this were the case, there'd be no reason for him to be released.  he's young enough to still be a good player for them.

Huh? It is provably the case. The issue with Porter is that he’s been riddled with injuries the last two years, he doesn’t fit Chicago’s timeframe (nearly 28) and he’s an expiring deal. He’s in the way of Hutchison and Dotson

[Birdman]

Didn’t know Redick is 36.. wow

[JBcat]

My true hope is the Celtics make a move with the TPE before that and plug the hole they need to plug thus making the buyout market more of a luxury then a need.

In a move that's rarely done, the C's could actually use their TPE to claim a player off the waiver wire before he has the chance to choose his own team.

That would be pretty cool.  Most desirable buyout candidate asks for buyout, wants to join Brooklyn or LA, but C's instead swoop in and take him before he clears waivers.

Yup, and we don’t even need to use the big trade exception for it.  We also have the Kanter 4.7 Mil TPE and Poirier 2.5 mil TPE.

[Vermont Green]

Porter would be a great fit here. Really good shooter, can play solid defence and is an upgrade on all our bench wings.

The problem with Otto Porter, well one of them anyway, is that he is making $28.5M.  Even though he fits the TPE, we are hard capped.  He would have to be bought out and willing to play for us for the minimum.  I just don't see that happening, but maybe.

Thad Young on the other hand, is making $13.5M, albeit for 2 seasons.  He seems like a more realistic option to get.

[NKY fan]

Porter would be a great fit here. Really good shooter, can play solid defence and is an upgrade on all our bench wings.

The problem with Otto Porter, well one of them anyway, is that he is making $28.5M.  Even though he fits the TPE, we are hard capped.  He would have to be bought out and willing to play for us for the minimum.  I just don't see that happening, but maybe.

Thad Young on the other hand, is making $13.5M, albeit for 2 seasons.  He seems like a more realistic option to get.

I’m leaning towards Fournier with the tpe or bust lol. I just don’t see anything else that is low risk and fit our current situation

[gouki88]

Porter would be a great fit here. Really good shooter, can play solid defence and is an upgrade on all our bench wings.

The problem with Otto Porter, well one of them anyway, is that he is making $28.5M.  Even though he fits the TPE, we are hard capped.  He would have to be bought out and willing to play for us for the minimum.  I just don't see that happening, but maybe.

Thad Young on the other hand, is making $13.5M, albeit for 2 seasons.  He seems like a more realistic option to get.

Oh yeah, my only interest in Porter is if he's bought out. Otherwise no dice.

I'd love Thad Young. Still only 32 somehow (feel like he's been around forever), and has shown really solid passing and shooting IQ this year. He plays solid defence too, and can cover 3s and 4s. Would be a nice pickup

[bdm860]

My true hope is the Celtics make a move with the TPE before that and plug the hole they need to plug thus making the buyout market more of a luxury then a need.

In a move that's rarely done, the C's could actually use their TPE to claim a player off the waiver wire before he has the chance to choose his own team.

That would be pretty cool.  Most desirable buyout candidate asks for buyout, wants to join Brooklyn or LA, but C's instead swoop in and take him before he clears waivers.

Yup, and we don’t even need to use the big trade exception for it.  We also have the Kanter 4.7 Mil TPE and Poirier 2.5 mil TPE.

Well I don't know about that part.  The buyout guys all tend to have bigger salaries, so the C's would have to use the large TPE to acquire them off the waiver wire.

Using the TPE on a waiver wire player, the C's would be picking up the rest of that players salary, not signing them for a lesser amount like other teams.  Due to being hard capped, it would work best with the mid tier salaries like Redick ($13m), Ariza ($12.8m), Rose ($7.7m), otherwise some other moves are needed first.

So OKC waives Ariza and his $12.8m salary, and Shams/Woj are reporting he plans on signing with Nets for the vet min.  The C's could swoop in and just claim his $12.8m salary off the waiver wire using a part of their $28.5m TPE before the Nets even have a chance to sign him (as they're waiting for him to clear waivers).

[td450]

The more I read these posts on the TPE and the buyout market, the more I realize that if Ainge wants a quick hitter that can really upgrade this team, forget that stuff, give up a first (which we don't really need) and go get PJ Tucker.

All these other scenarios have problems. He would genuinely improve our chances this year without getting in the way of anyone's development. It won't solve anything longer term, but it would make this team considerably better right away.

[RodyTur10]

Sounds crazy but when it comes to buyouts my principal concern is Brooklyn. That team has absolutely no assets and no bench left. The only way they can improve is through the buyout the market, and I fear there are some front-running players itching to team up with Kyrie/Durant/Harden. Same goes for the Lakers, who seem to corner the market on the best buy outs every year. A major problem for the league that needs to be addressed in the next round of collective bargaining.

Because Brooklyn showed great chemistry at the beginning of the season I thought it was a risky move to trade for Harden. But valuewise it was great for them. Most of their picks will be very late firsts and these good role players you can replace by signing some vet ring chasers during the buy-out season and in the off-season.

They will fix their bench. The question is: can they get Irving to buy in and build a good enough defense?

[dannyboy35]

 I’m ready to go all in with 2 guys averaging 27. Always gonna be a super team. 1st for PJ and can still find wing help.

[dannyboy35]

We got Marcus, Tristan. Add PJ and another pain in the neck like Grayson Allen. He’d be cheap. Give me a team of ultra competitive nuts around the Jays . Be the agitators to take down the Goliath superteams.