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How do you rank our centers?

Thompson - Theis - Timelord
Thompson - Timelord - Theis
Theis - Thompson - Timelord
Theis - Timelord - Thompson
Timelord - Thompson - Theis
Timelord - Theis - Thompson

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Re: How do you rank our centers?
« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2021, 01:01:32 PM »

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Tie between TT and Theis to me. Timelord is still a "stealth burner" in the vein of Nick Collison imo - he's only so effective because teams don't realise how much he is burning them in limited minutes.
So basically Timelord is effective cause other teams are stupid? :P
He'll be effective even if other teams adjust for him, but I doubt he'd be putting up these insane numbers while TT and Theis are quality starting bigs.

Btw teams are "dumber" than you think - you should really read how resistant coaches are to analytics when what they're doing is poor analytics (eg. Billy Donovan trying to use CP3's elbow shooting as an example to push back against analytics when analytics would encourage CP3 to shoot as many of those as possible in the half court).
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Re: How do you rank our centers?
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2021, 01:30:24 PM »

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Tie between TT and Theis to me. Timelord is still a "stealth burner" in the vein of Nick Collison imo - he's only so effective because teams don't realise how much he is burning them in limited minutes.
So basically Timelord is effective cause other teams are stupid? :P
He'll be effective even if other teams adjust for him, but I doubt he'd be putting up these insane numbers while TT and Theis are quality starting bigs.

Btw teams are "dumber" than you think - you should really read how resistant coaches are to analytics when what they're doing is poor analytics (eg. Billy Donovan trying to use CP3's elbow shooting as an example to push back against analytics when analytics would encourage CP3 to shoot as many of those as possible in the half court).
I'm sure some coaches/teams are stubborn. I have a hard time imagining that Timelord is effective cause all our opponents are stubborn/stupid.

In a vacuum, I believe Timelord is our best Center. Imo, he ain't playing more cause he's a bad fit in our switch-heavy defensive system. The C's are built around Tatum and Brown. They are both switchable defenders. It seems that CBS wants a switchable starting Center. If Timelord were a passable perimeter defender, I bet he would have been a starter by now.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2021, 01:47:55 PM by Jvalin »

Re: How do you rank our centers?
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2021, 01:51:39 PM »

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Timelord and TT impact the whole game the instant they come in .  I see teams launching the outside shot immediately.   

I gave Timelord the nod by a hair ,  his energy is dynamic with Brown and Pritchard....pressure to contain these guy from busting out on a dwon hill break is a game changer  .  TT is a load on offense under the rim , he is hard to muscle out ...LOL. 

Theis get abused in the paint too much in the NBA .  He is too small built and can't leap like RobWill.  Sometimes he plays well.

Re: How do you rank our centers?
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2021, 03:49:35 PM »

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All three have some above NBA average strengths (as noted by others). And all three have some fairly serious weaknesses that hold them back.

But i think it's fair to say that the Cs should be investing in Williams' comfort on the court now, as a means to him being a better, more consistent, more patient player by the playoffs. He's pretty erratic -- and again, a little too rushed all the time -- but shows 2-5 minutes stretches of being a major presence.

I agree with Roy he's doing well as a bench guy. Don't want to heap too much on his shoulders too quickly, so i think you keep him out of the starting line-up. But I do think his minutes should creep up signifcantly over the next 4-6 weeks if the Cs are smart, because his potential to impact games is undeniable.

I'd add -- as was my call in the "bold predictions 2021" thread -- i'd not be surprised at all to see Theis get traded this season.

Re: How do you rank our centers?
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2021, 06:34:19 PM »

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The real answer to this problem is for Theis and TL to do a fusion dance and become one single elite big man
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Re: How do you rank our centers?
« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2021, 04:09:09 AM »

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Itís a shame that TT and TL are out for the next few games, but Iím going to enjoy watching Tacko play.  He did really well last night, much better than I was expecting.   Iím curious if he could be a capable third string center. 


Re: How do you rank our centers?
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2021, 06:14:36 AM »

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The real answer to this problem is for Theis and TL to do a fusion dance and become one single elite big man
Theis has responded with a Danielhameha tonight :laugh:
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Re: How do you rank our centers?
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2021, 07:01:51 AM »

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At the moment, probably Thompson - Theis - Rob.  But Rob has highest ceiling.

I agree that Rob playing and gradually increasing bench minutes is correct, but I canít help wishing for him at times  in the starting lineup as I really like him around the rim on both ends.  I get (not as astutely as many of you) his challenges on the perimeter and handling switches that put him in less ideal defensive positions.

Re: Thompson, I think itís him by barely a nose over Theis.  I do like Theisí ability to shoot mid-range any downtown with decent D and consistent energy.
Thompson is the inside presence needed.  On the downside for TT I find myself wishing he had Kanterís hands sometimes.  I see fast carom balls bouncing off his hands on offensive boards that my brain thinks Enes would have snagged.
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Re: How do you rank our centers?
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2021, 09:24:40 AM »

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TT-Timelord-Theis

TT because of his exprience, his mental approach and influence in the team and his elite qualities : reb and energy.Maybe Theis do better the little things but I guess we need more elite rebound than switching. Both have lack of long range game.
Theis would be second option has a titulary, I guess Timelord is still a bench profile, enregiser player and the little things of Theis are not much banchable aptitudes.
This is why if Tacko can be acredible 3rd C option with Grant for some smallball time, Theis could be for me in a trade pack for a stretch 4 (esp if he has aptitutde to play some minutes at 5)