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Re: Possible S&T with Charlotte- Don't Bother
« Reply #75 on: November 27, 2020, 05:04:57 PM »

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Blake Griffin is a broken down shell of himself.  No thanks.

If we can get a TPE to deal for Bradley Beal then I'm interested.

But I can't see too many other players we'd be willing to go over the luxury tax for.

Can we even fit such a player under the luxury cap? IE ~28m?

Blake is one year removed from being an ALL NBA player averaging 25, 11, and 5 and bringing the Pistons to the post season. The Pistons made him play through an injury, then rushed him back too soon which caused him to need further surgery.

That said, Blake and Love are zero possibility players for next years Celtics so people need to get away from that thought.

We are hardcapped by Thompson and the Hayward sign and trade. The S and T means we can’t go over $138 mil... But I think the TT signing caps us at the $132 lux tax line, can someone clarify the correct hardcap number?

The full MLE, the BAE, and bringing in a player via S&T will all hard cap you at the same amount (the tax apron). Because we're binging in TT via the full MLE, we're hardcapped. We are not hardcapped from a sign and trade, though, since we haven't acquired any players that way (and sending out Hayward in a S&T would not hardcap us)
I think the team will self impose a hard cap at the luxury tax line of $132 million as, since Hayward leaving allows the team to reset the repeater tax, management is going to take advantage of that and save tens to hundreds of millions of dollars.

And that means, if they get the big TPE, they're going to only use ~$15 million of that TPE during this season. I think that's right. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
$15-16M is the incremental salary we can add and not pay luxury tax. They can still use the full $28M... for instance we acquire Horford and his $27.5M and send back Smart and his $13M ...
this is just an example ( horrible trade btw )
Increase in patrol is a little less than $15M

Re: Possible S&T with Charlotte- Don't Bother
« Reply #76 on: November 27, 2020, 05:05:43 PM »

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Blake Griffin is a broken down shell of himself.  No thanks.

If we can get a TPE to deal for Bradley Beal then I'm interested.

But I can't see too many other players we'd be willing to go over the luxury tax for.

Can we even fit such a player under the luxury cap? IE ~28m?

Blake is one year removed from being an ALL NBA player averaging 25, 11, and 5 and bringing the Pistons to the post season. The Pistons made him play through an injury, then rushed him back too soon which caused him to need further surgery.

That said, Blake and Love are zero possibility players for next years Celtics so people need to get away from that thought.

We are hardcapped by Thompson and the Hayward sign and trade. The S and T means we can’t go over $138 mil... But I think the TT signing caps us at the $132 lux tax line, can someone clarify the correct hardcap number?

The full MLE, the BAE, and bringing in a player via S&T will all hard cap you at the same amount (the tax apron). Because we're binging in TT via the full MLE, we're hardcapped. We are not hardcapped from a sign and trade, though, since we haven't acquired any players that way (and sending out Hayward in a S&T would not hardcap us)
I think the team will self impose a hard cap at the luxury tax line of $132 million as, since Hayward leaving allows the team to reset the repeater tax, management is going to take advantage of that and save tens to hundreds of millions of dollars.

And that means, if they get the big TPE, they're going to only use ~$15 million of that TPE during this season. I think that's right. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

I would agree with that. The one caveat would be that we could send out some salary in order to bring in a player that makes more without going over the tax. So we could bring in, say, someone making ~$24 million without going over the tax line as long as we also traded Thompson. We could even get up to the full value of the TPE if we sent out Smart or one of the #14 picks. I don't think such a move is likely, but it's certainly possible
I'm bitter.