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Re: Ginsburg dies; Amy Coney Barrett nominated
« Reply #480 on: October 26, 2020, 01:37:34 PM »

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The Republicans justified their hostility to Merrick Garland because a 'liberal' could not in their opinion fill Justice Scalia's seat.  Now they are rushing to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg with a Judge that has professed that she is cut in the mold of Scalia. Does Scalia  now have two seats on the Court? Why not just endow those seats so they can be forever dedicated to candidates 'cut in the mold of Scalia'. The absurdity of politicians, and they wonder why people voted for Trump. At least he tells you where he is coming from.

Re: Ginsburg dies; Amy Coney Barrett nominated
« Reply #481 on: October 26, 2020, 01:40:30 PM »

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The Republicans justified their hostility to Merrick Garland because a 'liberal' could not in their opinion fill Justice Scalia's seat.  Now they are rushing to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg with a Judge that has professed that she is cut in the mold of Scalia. Does Scalia  now have two seats on the Court? Why not just endow those seats so they can be forever dedicated to candidates 'cut in the mold of Scalia'. The absurdity of politicians, and they wonder why people voted for Trump. At least he tells you where he is coming from.

Thatís just a silly argument.  Seats are as conservative or liberal as the president making the nomination (although not reliably so; Reagan had some real stinkers, because the Dems wouldnít let through Bork, etc.)
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Re: Ginsburg dies; Amy Coney Barrett nominated
« Reply #482 on: October 26, 2020, 02:04:05 PM »

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The Republicans justified their hostility to Merrick Garland because a 'liberal' could not in their opinion fill Justice Scalia's seat.  Now they are rushing to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg with a Judge that has professed that she is cut in the mold of Scalia. Does Scalia  now have two seats on the Court? Why not just endow those seats so they can be forever dedicated to candidates 'cut in the mold of Scalia'. The absurdity of politicians, and they wonder why people voted for Trump. At least he tells you where he is coming from.

Thatís just a silly argument.  Seats are as conservative or liberal as the president making the nomination (although not reliably so; Reagan had some real stinkers, because the Dems wouldnít let through Bork, etc.)

Yes the GOP argument was silly and of course did not age very well. The tsunami is coming,

Re: Ginsburg dies; Amy Coney Barrett confirmed
« Reply #483 on: October 26, 2020, 08:11:30 PM »

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Congrats to the newly confirmed Justice Barrett.
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Re: Ginsburg dies; Amy Coney Barrett confirmed
« Reply #484 on: October 26, 2020, 08:28:06 PM »

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So Barret is good looking for her age (or has been)... has anyone noticed that on CNN all the pictures of her show her up close with accent on her wrinkles ?
I know it sounds superficial but I think they do it on purpose to solidify dems opinion of her.

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« Reply #485 on: October 26, 2020, 08:43:50 PM »

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Congrats to the newly confirmed Justice Barrett.

It is what it is, but this makes me want to puke. I guess if the Rs were going to go the super-hypocrisy route, they might as well have gone all the way with the most conservative judge they could find. How many hundreds of qualified judges were out there that would have better represented Americans and they had to go with her? Hopefully there will be several R Senators starting to pack their bags after the election on Tuesday. The way this whole thing went down is a disgrace.
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Re: Ginsburg dies; Amy Coney Barrett confirmed
« Reply #486 on: October 26, 2020, 08:57:04 PM »

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Congrats to the newly confirmed Justice Barrett.

Lol - this post makes me want to puke. I guess if the Rs were going to go the super-hypocrisy route, they might as well have gone all the way with the most conservative judge they could find. How many hundreds of qualified judges were out there that would have better represented Americans and they had to go with her? Hopefully there will be several R Senators starting to pack their bags after the election on Tuesday. The way this whole thing went down is a disgrace.
They won't care. The sooner they are out the sooner they can cash their real checks. Insurances and pharma will be delivering them soon.

Re: Ginsburg dies; Amy Coney Barrett confirmed
« Reply #487 on: October 26, 2020, 09:01:54 PM »

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Congrats to the newly confirmed Justice Barrett.

Lol - this post makes me want to puke. I guess if the Rs were going to go the super-hypocrisy route, they might as well have gone all the way with the most conservative judge they could find. How many hundreds of qualified judges were out there that would have better represented Americans and they had to go with her? Hopefully there will be several R Senators starting to pack their bags after the election on Tuesday. The way this whole thing went down is a disgrace.
They won't care. The sooner they are out the sooner they can cash their real checks. Insurances and pharma will be delivering them soon.

The odd thing is that these nominees are all touted for their integrity and their fidelity to the law, but not ONE of them displayed enough integrity to turn down the job given the circumstances of their nomination. They will rather benefit from a process that tears the country apart than make a principled stand. So much for integrity. The sooner we all admit we are political the better. Pack that Court!!!
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Re: Ginsburg dies; Amy Coney Barrett confirmed
« Reply #488 on: October 26, 2020, 09:56:30 PM »

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Congrats to the newly confirmed Justice Barrett.

Lol - this post makes me want to puke. I guess if the Rs were going to go the super-hypocrisy route, they might as well have gone all the way with the most conservative judge they could find. How many hundreds of qualified judges were out there that would have better represented Americans and they had to go with her? Hopefully there will be several R Senators starting to pack their bags after the election on Tuesday. The way this whole thing went down is a disgrace.
They won't care. The sooner they are out the sooner they can cash their real checks. Insurances and pharma will be delivering them soon.

The odd thing is that these nominees are all touted for their integrity and their fidelity to the law, but not ONE of them displayed enough integrity to turn down the job given the circumstances of their nomination. They will rather benefit from a process that tears the country about than make a principled stand. So much for integrity. The sooner we all admit we are political the better. Pack that Court!!!

Why should she turn the position down?  The President nominates, the Senate votes (or doesnít vote, if it desires).  The Constitution was followed.

Itís funny that Merrick Garland is the martyr here.  If Republicans had given him the Robert Bork treatment, would you feel better?
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Re: Ginsburg dies; Amy Coney Barrett confirmed
« Reply #489 on: October 26, 2020, 10:00:30 PM »

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Congrats to the newly confirmed Justice Barrett.

Lol - this post makes me want to puke. I guess if the Rs were going to go the super-hypocrisy route, they might as well have gone all the way with the most conservative judge they could find. How many hundreds of qualified judges were out there that would have better represented Americans and they had to go with her? Hopefully there will be several R Senators starting to pack their bags after the election on Tuesday. The way this whole thing went down is a disgrace.
They won't care. The sooner they are out the sooner they can cash their real checks. Insurances and pharma will be delivering them soon.

The odd thing is that these nominees are all touted for their integrity and their fidelity to the law, but not ONE of them displayed enough integrity to turn down the job given the circumstances of their nomination. They will rather benefit from a process that tears the country about than make a principled stand. So much for integrity. The sooner we all admit we are political the better. Pack that Court!!!
They are going to have to pack it . They can't balk after their threats or the Republicans will continue to abuse their power (when they have it) with no fear of retaliation. Sometimes you have to punch a bully back and have a real fight to end the bullying for good.

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« Reply #490 on: October 26, 2020, 10:03:26 PM »

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Re: Ginsburg dies; Amy Coney Barrett confirmed
« Reply #491 on: October 26, 2020, 10:08:08 PM »

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Congrats to the newly confirmed Justice Barrett.

Lol - this post makes me want to puke. I guess if the Rs were going to go the super-hypocrisy route, they might as well have gone all the way with the most conservative judge they could find. How many hundreds of qualified judges were out there that would have better represented Americans and they had to go with her? Hopefully there will be several R Senators starting to pack their bags after the election on Tuesday. The way this whole thing went down is a disgrace.
They won't care. The sooner they are out the sooner they can cash their real checks. Insurances and pharma will be delivering them soon.

The odd thing is that these nominees are all touted for their integrity and their fidelity to the law, but not ONE of them displayed enough integrity to turn down the job given the circumstances of their nomination. They will rather benefit from a process that tears the country about than make a principled stand. So much for integrity. The sooner we all admit we are political the better. Pack that Court!!!

Why should she turn the position down?  The President nominates, the Senate votes (or doesnít vote, if it desires).  The Constitution was followed.


Itís funny that Merrick Garland is the martyr here.  If Republicans had given him the Robert Bork treatment, would you feel better?
It's because you turn it down for integrity of fairness. In that when it was a Democratic president the Constitution wasn't followed. You put justice in front of party. That's the whole point of a Supreme Court judge to not play politics but judge fairly. Anyone who goes along with the hypocrisy isn't a good person let alone fit to be judge on the highest court.

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« Reply #492 on: October 26, 2020, 10:12:43 PM »

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Congrats to the newly confirmed Justice Barrett.

Lol - this post makes me want to puke. I guess if the Rs were going to go the super-hypocrisy route, they might as well have gone all the way with the most conservative judge they could find. How many hundreds of qualified judges were out there that would have better represented Americans and they had to go with her? Hopefully there will be several R Senators starting to pack their bags after the election on Tuesday. The way this whole thing went down is a disgrace.
They won't care. The sooner they are out the sooner they can cash their real checks. Insurances and pharma will be delivering them soon.

The odd thing is that these nominees are all touted for their integrity and their fidelity to the law, but not ONE of them displayed enough integrity to turn down the job given the circumstances of their nomination. They will rather benefit from a process that tears the country about than make a principled stand. So much for integrity. The sooner we all admit we are political the better. Pack that Court!!!

Why should she turn the position down?  The President nominates, the Senate votes (or doesnít vote, if it desires).  The Constitution was followed.

Itís funny that Merrick Garland is the martyr here.  If Republicans had given him the Robert Bork treatment, would you feel better?

Just pointing out the hypocrisy... she is a find jurist period, but do not make it more than that. Do not assign her the integrity or principle she does not have. Principle would have been standing for the Constitution and fighting for Merrick Garland, or at least telling the Presidend you pass on being used as a photo op tonight.

It is kind of telling that the conservative justice that replaced a great liberal justice gets to swear-in another conservative replacement for another great liberal justice. You just cannot make this up. Pack that Court!!!

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« Reply #493 on: October 26, 2020, 10:15:12 PM »

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Congrats to the newly confirmed Justice Barrett.

Lol - this post makes me want to puke. I guess if the Rs were going to go the super-hypocrisy route, they might as well have gone all the way with the most conservative judge they could find. How many hundreds of qualified judges were out there that would have better represented Americans and they had to go with her? Hopefully there will be several R Senators starting to pack their bags after the election on Tuesday. The way this whole thing went down is a disgrace.
They won't care. The sooner they are out the sooner they can cash their real checks. Insurances and pharma will be delivering them soon.

The odd thing is that these nominees are all touted for their integrity and their fidelity to the law, but not ONE of them displayed enough integrity to turn down the job given the circumstances of their nomination. They will rather benefit from a process that tears the country about than make a principled stand. So much for integrity. The sooner we all admit we are political the better. Pack that Court!!!

Why should she turn the position down?  The President nominates, the Senate votes (or doesnít vote, if it desires).  The Constitution was followed.


Itís funny that Merrick Garland is the martyr here.  If Republicans had given him the Robert Bork treatment, would you feel better?
It's because you turn it down for integrity of fairness. In that when it was a Democratic president the Constitution wasn't followed. You put justice in front of party. That's the whole point of a Supreme Court judge to not play politics but judge fairly. Anyone who goes along with the hypocrisy isn't a good person let alone fit to be judge on the highest court.

Where was the Constitution not followed?

Like it or not, the Senate has the right to withhold consent for a nominee.  Similarly, they can provide consent for a different nominee, even if otherwise the circumstances were similar.
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Re: Ginsburg dies; Amy Coney Barrett confirmed
« Reply #494 on: October 26, 2020, 10:21:51 PM »

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Congrats to the newly confirmed Justice Barrett.

Lol - this post makes me want to puke. I guess if the Rs were going to go the super-hypocrisy route, they might as well have gone all the way with the most conservative judge they could find. How many hundreds of qualified judges were out there that would have better represented Americans and they had to go with her? Hopefully there will be several R Senators starting to pack their bags after the election on Tuesday. The way this whole thing went down is a disgrace.
They won't care. The sooner they are out the sooner they can cash their real checks. Insurances and pharma will be delivering them soon.

The odd thing is that these nominees are all touted for their integrity and their fidelity to the law, but not ONE of them displayed enough integrity to turn down the job given the circumstances of their nomination. They will rather benefit from a process that tears the country about than make a principled stand. So much for integrity. The sooner we all admit we are political the better. Pack that Court!!!

Why should she turn the position down?  The President nominates, the Senate votes (or doesnít vote, if it desires).  The Constitution was followed.

Itís funny that Merrick Garland is the martyr here.  If Republicans had given him the Robert Bork treatment, would you feel better?

Just pointing out the hypocrisy... she is a find jurist period, but do not make it more than that. Do not assign her the integrity or principle she does not have. Principle would have been standing for the Constitution and fighting for Merrick Garland, or at least telling the Presidend you pass on being used as a photo op tonight.

Itis kind of telling that the conservative justice that replaced a great liberal justice gets to swear-in another conservative replacement for another great liberal justice. You just cannot make this up. Pack that Court!!!

The Dems used power politics to keep great nominees off the court (Bork) and to force Republicans to nominate less than desirable justices (Souter, Kennedy, OíConnor).  They filibustered really good Circuit nominees.

The Senate has a ton of power, and theyíve been exercising it long before now.  Honestly, liberals should appreciate that the Dem-controlled Senate was so powerful and obstructive earlier.  They got an extra 30 years of a moderate / socially-left Court.  Do you blame Republicans for now responding with power politics of their own?
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