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Re: Patriots 2020 season
« Reply #180 on: October 18, 2020, 03:58:38 PM »

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2 minutes, 2 TOs, new set of downs from the 40. The game was there for the taking and we just couldn't come through. Cam has an interesting set of skills, but his passing accuracy is not particularly good. Too bad, between this and the SEA game, we could be 4-1 instead of 2-3.

Re: Patriots 2020 season
« Reply #181 on: October 18, 2020, 04:03:41 PM »

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Scored only 12 against a middle-of-the-pack defense that came into this game giving up 24.5 per. Cam stands in the pocket way too much for a running QB. Receivers can't get much separation. I think this team finishes 7-9 and misses the playoffs.
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Re: Patriots 2020 season
« Reply #182 on: October 18, 2020, 04:09:42 PM »

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They played like they haven’t practiced in two weeks...

Re: Patriots 2020 season
« Reply #183 on: October 18, 2020, 04:22:42 PM »

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If we're being honest you really can't blame this loss on 1 or 2 guys. All around they were bad. Of course the injuries to certain guys during the game didn't help either.

Nice that they seemed to wake up in the final 6 minutes. Where the hell was that the previous 54??  >:(

Also each week that goes by the more depressed I feel that we could have had Metcalf or Brown and instead we got N'Keal Harry. Another game, another dud. Our offense is just too predictable. Newton can make some big plays but when defenses dial in on him, the next best thing is a screen to White or Edelman which is also predictable. Besides that, what can they do? Reverse jet sweeps every other play?

Oh and Ryan Izzo might be the Brian Hoyer of TEs  :P
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Re: Patriots 2020 season
« Reply #184 on: October 18, 2020, 04:23:08 PM »

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They played like they haven’t practiced in two weeks...


Exactly.  They look like it's preseason, which makes sense because all of their plans and routines have been blown up by COVID.

Between this and injuries it feels like we're just not going to see the best version of this team at any point this year.
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Re: Patriots 2020 season
« Reply #185 on: October 18, 2020, 05:03:53 PM »

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I'm treating this whole Covid season with all the disruptions as one big audition for Cam for the permanent job. They'll never admit it but I suspect Bill and Josh are too.
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Re: Patriots 2020 season
« Reply #186 on: October 18, 2020, 05:11:41 PM »

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I'm treating this whole Covid season with all the disruptions as one big audition for Cam for the permanent job. They'll never admit it but I suspect Bill and Josh are too.

Do you think they'd give him a long-term deal going into his age-32 season?
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Re: Patriots 2020 season
« Reply #187 on: October 18, 2020, 05:13:00 PM »

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I'm treating this whole Covid season with all the disruptions as one big audition for Cam for the permanent job. They'll never admit it but I suspect Bill and Josh are too.
If we can secure Trey Lance in the draft I'd see Cam out. Think he'll be a star

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« Reply #188 on: October 18, 2020, 05:28:28 PM »

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I think what really summed it up for the Pats offense was that they needed to use trick plays in the 4th quarter just to drive the ball on this Broncos defense. Like the Broncos aren't terrible but they definitely aren't this good (and they were missing key guys too like Melvin Gordon).

We have our own injuries + the COVID drama, but just like Brady last season Newton also got a glimpse of how it feels when guys can't get open. You hold the ball longer and get sacked or make stupid mistakes. Defenses just need to fill the gaps and cover White (eliminating the screen game) to be successful against us. Denver did that most of the game.

It was infuriating how many times Cam tried to throw a screen and it either got tipped, or even after it was caught they were tackled almost immediately. Predictable  ::)
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Re: Patriots 2020 season
« Reply #189 on: October 18, 2020, 05:32:43 PM »

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I think what really summed it up for the Pats offense was that they needed to use trick plays in the 4th quarter just to drive the ball on this Broncos defense. Like the Broncos aren't terrible but they definitely aren't this good (and they were missing key guys too like Melvin Gordon).

We have our own injuries + the COVID drama, but just like Brady last season Newton also got a glimpse of how it feels when guys can't get open. You hold the ball longer and get sacked or make stupid mistakes. Defenses just need to fill the gaps and cover White (eliminating the screen game) to be successful against us. Denver did that most of the game.

It was infuriating how many times Cam tried to throw a screen and it either got tipped, or even after it was caught they were tackled almost immediately. Predictable  ::)
I've had a real gripe with McDaniels' play-calling for a few years now, and you summed it up in one word - predictable. I don't feel as if our play-calling is dynamic enough

Re: Patriots 2020 season
« Reply #190 on: October 18, 2020, 06:12:00 PM »

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I think what really summed it up for the Pats offense was that they needed to use trick plays in the 4th quarter just to drive the ball on this Broncos defense. Like the Broncos aren't terrible but they definitely aren't this good (and they were missing key guys too like Melvin Gordon).

We have our own injuries + the COVID drama, but just like Brady last season Newton also got a glimpse of how it feels when guys can't get open. You hold the ball longer and get sacked or make stupid mistakes. Defenses just need to fill the gaps and cover White (eliminating the screen game) to be successful against us. Denver did that most of the game.

It was infuriating how many times Cam tried to throw a screen and it either got tipped, or even after it was caught they were tackled almost immediately. Predictable  ::)
I've had a real gripe with McDaniels' play-calling for a few years now, and you summed it up in one word - predictable. I don't feel as if our play-calling is dynamic enough

Right, but the other issue might just be our personnel. Our TEs suck (Izzo is like the Brian Hoyer of TEs lol), and the guys we drafted this past spring apparently aren't even playing. Both TEs, not playing.

Outside of Edelman and the RBs who can they really go to? When Cam did drop back no one was open except Byrd a few times.
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Re: Patriots 2020 season
« Reply #191 on: October 18, 2020, 06:26:00 PM »

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I think what really summed it up for the Pats offense was that they needed to use trick plays in the 4th quarter just to drive the ball on this Broncos defense. Like the Broncos aren't terrible but they definitely aren't this good (and they were missing key guys too like Melvin Gordon).

We have our own injuries + the COVID drama, but just like Brady last season Newton also got a glimpse of how it feels when guys can't get open. You hold the ball longer and get sacked or make stupid mistakes. Defenses just need to fill the gaps and cover White (eliminating the screen game) to be successful against us. Denver did that most of the game.

It was infuriating how many times Cam tried to throw a screen and it either got tipped, or even after it was caught they were tackled almost immediately. Predictable  ::)
I've had a real gripe with McDaniels' play-calling for a few years now, and you summed it up in one word - predictable. I don't feel as if our play-calling is dynamic enough

Right, but the other issue might just be our personnel. Our TEs suck (Izzo is like the Brian Hoyer of TEs lol), and the guys we drafted this past spring apparently aren't even playing. Both TEs, not playing.

Outside of Edelman and the RBs who can they really go to? When Cam did drop back no one was open except Byrd a few times.
Our TEs do suck, but we haven't even given Asiasi a crack for some reason. Keene is hurt, and that sucks, but nothing is forcing us to use Izzo.

We also don't target Harry like, at all. He showed what he can do in the Seattle game and McDaniels, naturally, doesn't try to use him for two weeks.
White should almost at this stage be a full-time WR, because he is no good running the ball. In fact, all 3 of our healthy RBs sucked, none averaging higher than 3.2 YPC lol.
I'd love to see JJ Taylor get a lot of touches when he's healthy again

Re: Patriots 2020 season
« Reply #192 on: October 18, 2020, 08:06:00 PM »

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Is there anything physically wrong with Newton? Maybe his throwing shoulder? He seemed to struggle throwing, and his arm angle was too low (balls getting tipped at line of scrimmage).

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« Reply #193 on: October 18, 2020, 08:12:51 PM »

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Is there anything physically wrong with Newton? Maybe his throwing shoulder? He seemed to struggle throwing, and his arm angle was too low (balls getting tipped at line of scrimmage).
Hope it's not his shoulder, he's had shoulder troubles before

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« Reply #194 on: October 18, 2020, 09:33:05 PM »

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Even completely healthy, I have doubts on if this team is even good. Our defense will still be good, but our offense is abysmal. Hey Cam, want some receivers? Have a washed up Edelman and underachieving N'Keal Harry. What a great decision to get a gunslinger with a strong arm, and surround him with slot receivers. Think a TE would help the team? Lets draft two and not play them. Instead you can play with the worst best starting TE in the league in Ryan Izzo! This offense is a mess, and I put all the blame on Belicheck's abysmal drafting and roster building decisions these past couple of years. Why did we trade a draft pick for a washed up, oft-injured Mohammed Sanu? A slot receiver on a team that desperately needs some deep ball receivers? Oh don't worry, we'll just release him in less than a year. No wonder why Brady left to a team that'll actually put some talent on the roster.
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