"I was good with the way we ended that" - Brad on no timeout at the end

[Surferdad]

Everybody here is talking about last night, but the OP posed two questions, the 2nd one:

Do you agree or disagree with ...his philosophy on timeouts in general?

For the most part, my answer is Yes.  He reminds me a bit of when KC Jones coached the championship teams of the 80's.  His approach was often to let the players play.  I thin this is a reasonable strategy when you have very good or great players, not so much with a young team lacking experience.

[GreenRunsDeep33]

No Brad no! This doesnt make sense.

We see the Celtics time and time again get 2 for 1 possessions during a game. I've seen Brad do it for years. This was the perfect 2 for 1 situation down 1 point with enough time to get a shot make or miss and foul.

You have to extend the game until you have to take a desperation heave shot. You want the last possession even if 00.03 is left on the clock.

Brad seems fine with competing but not upset enough when they dont execute. That last 2:46 seconds was horrible. We needed Kemba to run offense and we couldn't get a good shot. Brad didnt even put any bigs in for second shot opportunities. I just dont get his complacent coaching sometimes.

Lastly, why is Smart getting more shots than Brown and Tatum?

[tazzmaniac]

No Brad no! This doesnt make sense.

We see the Celtics time and time again get 2 for 1 possessions during a game. I've seen Brad do it for years. This was the perfect 2 for 1 situation down 1 point with enough time to get a shot make or miss and foul.

You have to extend the game until you have to take a desperation heave shot. You want the last possession even if 00.03 is left on the clock.

Brad seems fine with competing but not upset enough when they dont execute. That last 2:46 seconds was horrible. We needed Kemba to run offense and we couldn't get a good shot. Brad didnt even put any bigs in for second shot opportunities. I just dont get his complacent coaching sometimes.

Lastly, why is Smart getting more shots than Brown and Tatum?

Theis was on court and came up with the loose ball rebound.  Unfortunately time had run out. 

[droopdog7]

I don't really like this 'run a set play' mentality of Brad's.  Put the ball in your best player's hands and get the heck out of the way.

1 shot for the game?  That's Tatum's shot.  Not anyone else's unless he passes it to you.

Didnt Tatum get the ball?  Didn’t he get doubled?  Didn’t he pass the ball?  Were we watching the same play?

[droopdog7]

No Brad no! This doesnt make sense.

We see the Celtics time and time again get 2 for 1 possessions during a game. I've seen Brad do it for years. This was the perfect 2 for 1 situation down 1 point with enough time to get a shot make or miss and foul.

You have to extend the game until you have to take a desperation heave shot. You want the last possession even if 00.03 is left on the clock.

Brad seems fine with competing but not upset enough when they dont execute. That last 2:46 seconds was horrible. We needed Kemba to run offense and we couldn't get a good shot. Brad didnt even put any bigs in for second shot opportunities. I just dont get his complacent coaching sometimes.

Lastly, why is Smart getting more shots than Brown and Tatum?

Um, that 2 for 1 thing doesn’t apply at the end of games.  NO team does that.  At that point, you set up for the best shot possible.

[seancally]

Everybody here is talking about last night, but the OP posed two questions, the 2nd one:

Do you agree or disagree with ...his philosophy on timeouts in general?

For the most part, my answer is Yes.  He reminds me a bit of when KC Jones coached the championship teams of the 80's.  His approach was often to let the players play.  I thin this is a reasonable strategy when you have very good or great players, not so much with a young team lacking experience.

 Brad wants his guys to learn. Perfect opportunity last night to run it on the fly, give them a chance to figure it out and get up a winner with the game on the line against a good opponent. They did a good job and missed the shot. Maybe in the playoffs when it matters this experience gives them just a bit more poise. I think if brad calls the timeout, maybe we win... but miss this chance for learning and growth. We can all debate what’s more important in this specific situation, but it’s definitely not win-at-all-costs.

[18isGREATERthan72]

I had no problem with the shot they got.  Jaylen makes that shot pretty regularly.  Jaylen was the guy who got them to overtime, so he was more than worthy of taking that last shot.  My only gripe with the shot was it came a few seconds later than I would have liked.  My preference would have been to leave a small bit of time on the clock for the instance that actually happened... If he had missed, it would have given an extra count for someone to get one more shot up.  I would have felt comfortable if he had made it and there was 1.5 on the clock, because I trust them to defend the game winning shot on the other end.

[nickagneta]

Celtics lost because they went stone cold shooting in the 2nd half. They got decent looks, looks they were getting in the 1st half, and simply went cold. It happens.

No problem with not calling a TO. They ran a set, got JT the ball. He got doubled. Ball went to JB. He created a high quality shot given the situation but missed. Heck, this shot was an easier shot than the three he hit to send it to OT. Misses for the win happen.

If the good look by JB goes down, no one is complaining about the lack of a TO.

[hpantazo]

I don't really like this 'run a set play' mentality of Brad's.  Put the ball in your best player's hands and get the heck out of the way.

1 shot for the game?  That's Tatum's shot.  Not anyone else's unless he passes it to you.

Didnt Tatum get the ball?  Didn’t he get doubled?  Didn’t he pass the ball?  Were we watching the same play?

Yep! That's what I saw at least.

I agree with people who said that Stevens is using these games and these situations as a learning process for Tatum and the team. Tatum hasn't learned yet how to handle the double teams in these situations. He needs the in-game experience, with the mistakes that come with it, to learn how to not only handle it, but flourish in it, come playoffs.

[apc]

Our offense looked very uncomfortable the entire 2nd half.
So a time out to get a clean look would have been the right choice imo.

[RPGenerate]

Celtics lost because they went stone cold shooting in the 2nd half. They got decent looks, looks they were getting in the 1st half, and simply went cold. It happens.

No problem with not calling a TO. They ran a set, got JT the ball. He got doubled. Ball went to JB. He created a high quality shot given the situation but missed. Heck, this shot was an easier shot than the three he hit to send it to OT. Misses for the win happen.

If the good look by JB goes down, no one is complaining about the lack of a TO.

Agreed. I understand calling a timeout if they were running around like headless chickens, with no play in mind and everyone out of position. However, that clearly wasn't the case. Everyone got into position, they ran a play, and got a decent shot. Sadly it just didn't go down.

[Greengang5]

I would have liked Tatum to not stand at the 3 point line for that final play and crash the boards.  If he took a straight line the Rebound would have gone to him. 

[ozgod]

No Brad no! This doesnt make sense.

We see the Celtics time and time again get 2 for 1 possessions during a game. I've seen Brad do it for years. This was the perfect 2 for 1 situation down 1 point with enough time to get a shot make or miss and foul.

You have to extend the game until you have to take a desperation heave shot. You want the last possession even if 00.03 is left on the clock.

Brad seems fine with competing but not upset enough when they dont execute. That last 2:46 seconds was horrible. We needed Kemba to run offense and we couldn't get a good shot. Brad didnt even put any bigs in for second shot opportunities. I just dont get his complacent coaching sometimes.

Lastly, why is Smart getting more shots than Brown and Tatum?

It's easy for us to sit and keep checking box scores and find out how many shot attempts players make, but I'm pretty sure that when you're on the court they're not sitting there thinking "ok I took 12 shots now that's my limit, better start passing it". I'm guessing what's happening is the defense is all over Tatum and Brown like a rash and so Smart is ending up with good looks. I doubt it was premeditated though Marcus does tend to be trigger happy as a general rule.

[nickagneta]

Gotta say, this team isn't being given enough credit for coming back from 6 points down with 34-35 seconds left to force OT.

Lots of complaints about an uncalled TO, but where is the love for Smart's and Brown's amazing threes to tie the game. I LOVE the fact this team never gives up and LOVED that they scratched and clawed for another shot to win the game.

That's what I take from this game. It was a definite loss on  several occasions but the team never quit and came back and came back, fought hard and had the chance to win it.

That's great stuff from the youngest most inexperienced team in the league.

[BringToughnessBack]

Gotta say, this team isn't being given enough credit for coming back from 6 points down with 34-35 seconds left to force OT.

Lots of complaints about an uncalled TO, but where is the love for Smart's and Brown's amazing threes to tie the game. I LOVE the fact this team never gives up and LOVED that they scratched and clawed for another shot to win the game.

That's what I take from this game. It was a definite loss on  several occasions but the team never quit and came back and came back, fought hard and had the chance to win it.

That's great stuff from the youngest most inexperienced team in the league.

Well said and I agree. TP. Our young players have some serious fight in them.