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Re: Coronavirus Concerns
« Reply #4860 on: July 10, 2020, 03:21:47 PM »

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Article: 3 Arizona teachers who shared a classroom all contracted the virus.  One died.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2020/07/09/covid-19-school-reopenings-arizona-teachers/5411122002/?fbclid=IwAR2UGZbjxVWzRhOPfHVGX7CDnX-yBhoT_NpcZ-ITW9tK3Sne5jLsF-49l80


In all the years that I worked in schools, I've never heard of a teacher dying from the flu.  I'm sure it's happened, but I've never heard of it.    The Covid deaths are with schools closing in March...

I am very mixed about school re-opening. First -- I think most states/communities will reopen schools, at least at the outset -- and at least partially.  I know how hard it's been and I know the emotional toll on kids not having the social component and missing the opportunity to learn with teachers actually present (not to mention the toll on parents and school staff).  I want schools to open.  But... when you hear teachers dying of Covid it's pretty hard to ignore.  Many teachers, paraeducators, lunch workers, custodians, administrators are over 55 and many have concerning pre-existing conditions.  Trump's let's say, indelicate, declaration of schools must reopen -- contained fully with a solid threat -- is just another example of his failure as a leader.  I do believe that he would have the vast majority of the country in his camp if he were to strongly state that kids mental health and academic needs are best met back in school (of course this in itself runs counter to the now almost silent voice of his Education Secretary, Betsy Devos who has not behaved as a particular fan of public education).

Trump could be a little sensitive to the implications of reopening -- maybe acknowledge that it's disconcerting.  Maybe acknowledge that adults in schools might be at high risk for complication even as kids may be at lesser risk.  Maybe acknowledge that there are some parts of the country, or some districts, that may be in the midst of crazy outbreaks and perhaps should be more cautious.  Maybe he could not only emphasize, but back up with public $$ the idea of implementing stringent safety precautions when back at school.   

You know, as each month of this dreadful presidency ticks down to its hopeful end, I am actually believing month to month that he is even worse as a president than I thought each previous month.  The bar was painfully low to begin with, and he is getting lower and lower.



26 Teachers From England:
https://www.tes.com/news/coronavirus-revealed-least-26-teachers-have-died-covid-19

28 teachers and 65 school employees From NYC:
https://abc7ny.com/teacher-deaths-by-covid-19-teachers-killed-coronavirus-department-of-education-nyc/6133083/

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-17/sacramento-substitute-teacher-who-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-dies

Re: Coronavirus Concerns
« Reply #4861 on: July 10, 2020, 04:13:10 PM »

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Usually caveat of its just one study, and its REALLY hard to determine what might have happened in any given alternate scenario.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/shelter-in-place-orders-prevented-up-to-370-000-coronavirus-deaths-study-says/ar-BB16AjkL?ocid=msedgntp

Re: Coronavirus Concerns
« Reply #4862 on: July 10, 2020, 04:23:30 PM »

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Article: 3 Arizona teachers who shared a classroom all contracted the virus.  One died.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2020/07/09/covid-19-school-reopenings-arizona-teachers/5411122002/?fbclid=IwAR2UGZbjxVWzRhOPfHVGX7CDnX-yBhoT_NpcZ-ITW9tK3Sne5jLsF-49l80


In all the years that I worked in schools, I've never heard of a teacher dying from the flu.  I'm sure it's happened, but I've never heard of it.    The Covid deaths are with schools closing in March...

I am very mixed about school re-opening. First -- I think most states/communities will reopen schools, at least at the outset -- and at least partially.  I know how hard it's been and I know the emotional toll on kids not having the social component and missing the opportunity to learn with teachers actually present (not to mention the toll on parents and school staff).  I want schools to open.  But... when you hear teachers dying of Covid it's pretty hard to ignore.  Many teachers, paraeducators, lunch workers, custodians, administrators are over 55 and many have concerning pre-existing conditions.  Trump's let's say, indelicate, declaration of schools must reopen -- contained fully with a solid threat -- is just another example of his failure as a leader.  I do believe that he would have the vast majority of the country in his camp if he were to strongly state that kids mental health and academic needs are best met back in school (of course this in itself runs counter to the now almost silent voice of his Education Secretary, Betsy Devos who has not behaved as a particular fan of public education).

Trump could be a little sensitive to the implications of reopening -- maybe acknowledge that it's disconcerting.  Maybe acknowledge that adults in schools might be at high risk for complication even as kids may be at lesser risk.  Maybe acknowledge that there are some parts of the country, or some districts, that may be in the midst of crazy outbreaks and perhaps should be more cautious.  Maybe he could not only emphasize, but back up with public $$ the idea of implementing stringent safety precautions when back at school.   

You know, as each month of this dreadful presidency ticks down to its hopeful end, I am actually believing month to month that he is even worse as a president than I thought each previous month.  The bar was painfully low to begin with, and he is getting lower and lower.



26 Teachers From England:
https://www.tes.com/news/coronavirus-revealed-least-26-teachers-have-died-covid-19

28 teachers and 65 school employees From NYC:
https://abc7ny.com/teacher-deaths-by-covid-19-teachers-killed-coronavirus-department-of-education-nyc/6133083/

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-03-17/sacramento-substitute-teacher-who-tested-positive-for-coronavirus-dies


Yeah me and my wife both agree if we we teachers , we wouldn't be going back to any normal huge public school anytime soon.  not until vaccines are well into the public domain.  Gotta use some of that common sense here or pay the price.

I wouldn't want to be locked in a building with thousands of covid carrying rug rats .....who are not scard one iota about dying or getting sick or killing me

.  Sure lets all have school , more covid the better ! ....not this kid ....Next to a movie theater or gym , bars , concert , or gaint indoor sports event ....public schools  is right up there with these infection centers.   Nope ...not me I ll dig ditchs and stay alive thank you .
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Re: Coronavirus Concerns
« Reply #4863 on: July 10, 2020, 05:19:13 PM »

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Re: Coronavirus Concerns
« Reply #4864 on: July 10, 2020, 06:03:18 PM »

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Catholic Church gets 1.5 billion in aid. WHAT?!!!!

Re: Coronavirus Concerns
« Reply #4865 on: July 10, 2020, 06:27:58 PM »

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Catholic Church gets 1.5 billion in aid. WHAT?!!!!

God needs his cut  too!    ;D


he been working over time lately !

Re: Coronavirus Concerns
« Reply #4866 on: July 10, 2020, 06:28:37 PM »

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854 deaths reported in 24 hours, an increase over the 624 the same period a week ago. Deaths are for sure on the rise.

Re: Coronavirus Concerns
« Reply #4867 on: July 10, 2020, 06:29:05 PM »

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Catholic Church gets 1.5 billion in aid. WHAT?!!!!

You know what they say?

God loves ugly money.
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Can't define how I be dropping these mockeries."

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It's based on your perspective, quite simply
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Re: Coronavirus Concerns
« Reply #4868 on: July 10, 2020, 06:29:19 PM »

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those pictures of the bulldozers digging 100s or 1000 s of graves in Brazil is mind blowing . 

back hoe operators working OT

Re: Coronavirus Concerns
« Reply #4869 on: July 10, 2020, 06:30:19 PM »

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854 deaths reported in 24 hours, an increase over the 624 the same period a week ago. Deaths are for sure on the rise.

I'm sure that's also from testing too much, more than anyone else in the world ::)

Those darn tests must be killing people!

Re: Coronavirus Concerns
« Reply #4870 on: July 10, 2020, 06:39:03 PM »

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Australia gets 50 new cases and they panic they shut it down .

While in the USA ...50 small countries refuse to work together and take care of their states , lock down the sources , stop none essential travel between states.  Stop passenger srvice period ,  we are too weak to and stupid to do,what is right.  Close,the gyms , bars , none essential public places until it can be brought under control .It will just spiral out of control the way out state goverments are operating .  Nobody is in charge and no laws are being enforced ....so we will just all end up with covid.

Re: Coronavirus Concerns
« Reply #4871 on: July 10, 2020, 07:04:50 PM »

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Re: Coronavirus Concerns
« Reply #4872 on: July 10, 2020, 08:07:23 PM »

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Oh boy. The U.S has passed 71,000 cases so far today, and I believe that's with some states like California not reporting their numbers yet  :o
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Re: Coronavirus Concerns
« Reply #4873 on: July 10, 2020, 10:00:01 PM »

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854 deaths reported in 24 hours, an increase over the 624 the same period a week ago. Deaths are for sure on the rise.

I'm sure that's also from testing too much, more than anyone else in the world ::)

Those darn tests must be killing people!

Stop checking pulses.  You'll never have to pronounce anyone dead.  Problem fixed. 
Yup

Re: Coronavirus Concerns
« Reply #4874 on: July 10, 2020, 11:21:22 PM »

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854 deaths reported in 24 hours, an increase over the 624 the same period a week ago. Deaths are for sure on the rise.

I'm sure that's also from testing too much, more than anyone else in the world ::)

Those darn tests must be killing people!

Stop checking pulses.  You'll never have to pronounce anyone dead.  Problem fixed.

This lawmaker from Ohio agrees...he thinks people should stop getting tested.

Any odd typos are because I suck at typing on an iPhone :D