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Kanter or Theis?
« on: November 08, 2019, 11:34:04 AM »

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I know some of you guys don't think the Celts will make a move to upgrade the frontcourt.
But if Ainge does and it has to be Theis or Kanter getting shipped out, who you guys prefer the Celts keep?

Kanter or Theis for the playoff run?

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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2019, 11:35:35 AM »

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I really miss Baynes.  I know he was injured a lot, but man he brought some toughness.  Such a bummer that we had to see him go.

What are the rules on when/how we could sign him?  Or trade for him?

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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2019, 11:35:55 AM »

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Why not keep them both if Theis maintains his defensive excellence while bringing his offense back to league average while Robert Williams improves into a 20-25 MPG rim runner who's a defensive specialist?
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« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2019, 11:36:29 AM »

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I really miss Baynes.  I know he was injured a lot, but man he brought some toughness.  Such a bummer that we had to see him go.

What are the rules on when/how we could sign him?  Or trade for him?
We can only re-acquire him after this season.
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« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2019, 11:38:03 AM »

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I really miss Baynes.  I know he was injured a lot, but man he brought some toughness.  Such a bummer that we had to see him go.

What are the rules on when/how we could sign him?  Or trade for him?
We can only re-acquire him after this season.

Or if the Suns trade him and that team waives him.

Celts can re-sign Baynes if he's released by another team not the Suns.

But that's highly unlikely.

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« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2019, 11:38:58 AM »

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Why not keep them both if Theis maintains his defensive excellence while bringing his offense back to league average while Robert Williams improves into a 20-25 MPG rim runner who's a defensive specialist?

Keeping them both is one option.

But I'm asking what if Ainge has to make a choice.

Who you prefer staying Kanter or Theis?

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« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2019, 11:39:13 AM »

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I really miss Baynes.  I know he was injured a lot, but man he brought some toughness.  Such a bummer that we had to see him go.

What are the rules on when/how we could sign him?  Or trade for him?
We can only re-acquire him after this season.

Or if the Suns trade him and that team waives him.

Celts can re-sign Baynes if he's released by another team not the Suns.

But that's highly unlikely.
I don't even think that Baynes will be released, he's playing like an All-Star this year (yes an All-Star) this season lol.
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« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2019, 11:45:05 AM »

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I really miss Baynes.  I know he was injured a lot, but man he brought some toughness.  Such a bummer that we had to see him go.

What are the rules on when/how we could sign him?  Or trade for him?
We can only re-acquire him after this season.

Or if the Suns trade him and that team waives him.

Celts can re-sign Baynes if he's released by another team not the Suns.

But that's highly unlikely.
I don't even think that Baynes will be released, he's playing like an All-Star this year (yes an All-Star) this season lol.

I know, that's why I miss him even more.  Imagine him with the Celts this year.

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It would come down to Kanter coming back and showing a real legit defensive effort. If not, I would go with Theis. I would be frustrated to see the team playing really well on defense, only to watch Kanter letting guys get to the basket.

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Should get Baynes back and add S. Adams .   Keep Timelord.

sack BOTH Theis and Kanter.

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« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2019, 12:18:41 PM »

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I really miss Baynes.  I know he was injured a lot, but man he brought some toughness.  Such a bummer that we had to see him go.

What are the rules on when/how we could sign him?  Or trade for him?
We can only re-acquire him after this season.

Or if the Suns trade him and that team waives him.

Celts can re-sign Baynes if he's released by another team not the Suns.

But that's highly unlikely.
I don't even think that Baynes will be released, he's playing like an All-Star this year (yes an All-Star) this season lol.

True.

Baynes is playing so well with the Suns right now.

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« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2019, 12:41:14 PM »

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It would come down to Kanter coming back and showing a real legit defensive effort. If not, I would go with Theis. I would be frustrated to see the team playing really well on defense, only to watch Kanter letting guys get to the basket.
I like this, but there's another level of detail to the question:  Who can you get and what is the price?  Kanter is the more established player and might be considered to have more value in a trade than Theis.  This is why these theoretical questions are a fun pastime, but do not represent reality.

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« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2019, 12:54:05 PM »

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I know some of you guys don't think the Celts will make a move to upgrade the frontcourt.
But if Ainge does and it has to be Theis or Kanter getting shipped out, who you guys prefer the Celts keep?

Kanter or Theis for the playoff run?

I gotta say, I wasn't expecting much from Theis as a starter, but he's made the most of his opportunities.

He's been pretty good on both ends of the floor.

That said, my answer is Kanter, primarily because well....he's 3 inches taller. And, I don't think he'll back down from a tussle or a scrum. He can hold his own. Theis is undersized and will get out-rebounded by bigger centers
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I think in today's NBA it's all about which tool for which job. There will be times when Kanter will start, there will be times when Daniel will start. Then there's going to situations where we have Timelord or Baguette or even GWill in that 5 spot. Unfortunately we don't have a player who is a one-size-fits-all so it's going to be a horses for courses type thing I think. So I advocate keeping all of them  :angel:

If we had to choose who to ship out, I think it would depend on who we would be getting in return. That said, Kanter is getting paid more, so we would conceivably get a better return for him than for Theis.
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I think in today's NBA it's all about which tool for which job. There will be times when Kanter will start, there will be times when Daniel will start. Then there's going to situations where we have Timelord or Baguette or even GWill in that 5 spot. Unfortunately we don't have a player who is a one-size-fits-all so it's going to be a horses for courses type thing I think. So I advocate keeping all of them  :angel:

If we had to choose who to ship out, I think it would depend on who we would be getting in return. That said, Kanter is getting paid more, so we would conceivably get a better return for him than for Theis.

I'm all-in on the center-by-committee approach.  I think each of these guys brings something very useful to the court and we are going to be fine using a match-up based strategy at the 5.

Heck, you forgot to include using Smart as the occasional '5th' guy in some situations.

There really just isn't any real needle-mover out there that Danny is likely to get who is going to give us some great boost at the 5 over our current guys without having to risk weakening some other aspect of our roster.   You aren't getting a 'star' big man without moving one of our starters.  And just consider:

Jaylen can't be traded this year because of the extension.
Gordon is difficult to trade unless he exercises his option for next season already.
Kemba just signed with us -- trading him would be crazy weird and would make no sense since it would just create a hole a the 1.

Jayson is kinda the only starter who we could really trade -- but the Anthony Davis trade is long gone and unless you get a KAT back for Tatum, I just don't see it happening.   He still has two more seasons on his rookie deal (including this one) and all signs are that they plan on giving him a max extension so I expect Tatum to be in green for the next 7 seasons.

So really, folks need to just get used to the center-by-committee approach.

Just enjoy, folks.
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