Brad Stevens is clueless

[mef730]

Sigh, this again...

Brad Stevens has taken this team to 11-3, even without a real center. They almost knocked off a championship contender on the road. And, he's ahead by nine points in Iowa.

Clueless he ain't.

Mike

[azzenfrost]

lol Mayor Brad of South Bend

[greg683x]

Bump. Brad Stevens cost his team the game tonight when he took a red hot Tatum out of the game and didn't re-insert him until 6 minutes left in the freaking fourth quarter. JT was having the game of his life and could have EASILY had 40 if Stevens didn't keep him out for that long. Stevens is going to cost this team a title. He just has no killer instinct as a coach.

Tatum played 40.5/53 minutes last night, including all but 4 seconds of the 3rd quarter.  He needed a rest, and after he got that rest he played the entire 5:45 remaining in regulation plus the entire 5 minutes of overtime. Players aren't going to play the entire 2nd half and stay fresh, especially on a team that plays hard defense

Not to mention that the lead actually increased in the ~6 minutes Tatum sat (from 6 after Wanamaker's 2nd free throw to 7 when Tatum checked back in).  Maybe it would have been larger if Tatum had played straight through, but I would counter with saying that it's equally likely that a tired Tatum would have allowed the Clippers to take an earlier/bigger lead in the 2nd half of the 4th quarter.

Tatum ended the game playing roughly the same amount of minutes as Brown, Walker, Smart etc. Stevens clearly sticks to a script and does not allow the players to exceed his pre-conceived minutes allotment. If a guy is having a career night and did not ask to be subbed out, let him play and see what he can do. Stevens will never allow this. I've seen him do the same thing with Brown, when he's on the verge of having a monstrous night.

And don't even get me started on his rotations. RWIII is clearly the second best center on this roster yet he's back to third string on the depth chart. Why? Because Stevens is going out of his way to appease Kanter? This is absurd. He needs to play the best players and stop messing with the lineups each and every game. His coaching style makes me want to vomit.

so who is your choice to replace him?  who is available right now that will do a better job than him?

[BitterJim]

Bump. Brad Stevens cost his team the game tonight when he took a red hot Tatum out of the game and didn't re-insert him until 6 minutes left in the freaking fourth quarter. JT was having the game of his life and could have EASILY had 40 if Stevens didn't keep him out for that long. Stevens is going to cost this team a title. He just has no killer instinct as a coach.

Tatum played 40.5/53 minutes last night, including all but 4 seconds of the 3rd quarter.  He needed a rest, and after he got that rest he played the entire 5:45 remaining in regulation plus the entire 5 minutes of overtime. Players aren't going to play the entire 2nd half and stay fresh, especially on a team that plays hard defense

Not to mention that the lead actually increased in the ~6 minutes Tatum sat (from 6 after Wanamaker's 2nd free throw to 7 when Tatum checked back in).  Maybe it would have been larger if Tatum had played straight through, but I would counter with saying that it's equally likely that a tired Tatum would have allowed the Clippers to take an earlier/bigger lead in the 2nd half of the 4th quarter.

Tatum ended the game playing roughly the same amount of minutes as Brown, Walker, Smart etc. Stevens clearly sticks to a script and does not allow the players to exceed his pre-conceived minutes allotment. If a guy is having a career night and did not ask to be subbed out, let him play and see what he can do. Stevens will never allow this. I've seen him do the same thing with Brown, when he's on the verge of having a monstrous night.

And don't even get me started on his rotations. RWIII is clearly the second best center on this roster yet he's back to third string on the depth chart. Why? Because Stevens is going out of his way to appease Kanter? This is absurd. He needs to play the best players and stop messing with the lineups each and every game. His coaching style makes me want to vomit.

so who is your choice to replace him?  who is available right now that will do a better job than him?

Some people would only be happy with a coach that makes the exact same decisions that they would (or think they would) in those situations

So if I had to guess, I would say a CelticsStrong poster named Spicoli

[Spicoli]

Bump. Brad Stevens cost his team the game tonight when he took a red hot Tatum out of the game and didn't re-insert him until 6 minutes left in the freaking fourth quarter. JT was having the game of his life and could have EASILY had 40 if Stevens didn't keep him out for that long. Stevens is going to cost this team a title. He just has no killer instinct as a coach.

Tatum played 40.5/53 minutes last night, including all but 4 seconds of the 3rd quarter.  He needed a rest, and after he got that rest he played the entire 5:45 remaining in regulation plus the entire 5 minutes of overtime. Players aren't going to play the entire 2nd half and stay fresh, especially on a team that plays hard defense

Not to mention that the lead actually increased in the ~6 minutes Tatum sat (from 6 after Wanamaker's 2nd free throw to 7 when Tatum checked back in).  Maybe it would have been larger if Tatum had played straight through, but I would counter with saying that it's equally likely that a tired Tatum would have allowed the Clippers to take an earlier/bigger lead in the 2nd half of the 4th quarter.

Tatum ended the game playing roughly the same amount of minutes as Brown, Walker, Smart etc. Stevens clearly sticks to a script and does not allow the players to exceed his pre-conceived minutes allotment. If a guy is having a career night and did not ask to be subbed out, let him play and see what he can do. Stevens will never allow this. I've seen him do the same thing with Brown, when he's on the verge of having a monstrous night.

And don't even get me started on his rotations. RWIII is clearly the second best center on this roster yet he's back to third string on the depth chart. Why? Because Stevens is going out of his way to appease Kanter? This is absurd. He needs to play the best players and stop messing with the lineups each and every game. His coaching style makes me want to vomit.

so who is your choice to replace him?  who is available right now that will do a better job than him?

Doesn't matter who replaces him at this point. He needs to go back to Butler. You can't win a title with players who have no killer instinct and you can't win a title with a coach who has no killer instinct. There is no dog in Stevens. He coaches from a script, almost like a robot. I'm tired of him limiting the potential of these players by yanking them when they shouldn't be yanked and by allowing them to throw up shot after shot with no repercussions. He starts giving Javonte Green minutes then takes him out of the rotation completely? What is this guy doing. Yes the 11-3 record is nice but we've had enough of a sample size to know that the record itself is not a true measuring stick of anything. I simply do not like what i'm seeing out of Stevens and i haven't for the past few years.

[greg683x]

i think people would be less prone to knee jerk reactions in general, if they knew theyd lose their job if they were wrong.

its easy to say to sit here and say youd fire a coach like brad stevens and bring in lord knows who to replace him, as long as youre not the guy that loses his job when the replacement fails.  because more often than not, that same guy that was complaining about Stevens will be complaining about Ainge two years later after Ainge fires Stevens and the team tanks

but they thats why people love the internet.   

[greg683x]

Bump. Brad Stevens cost his team the game tonight when he took a red hot Tatum out of the game and didn't re-insert him until 6 minutes left in the freaking fourth quarter. JT was having the game of his life and could have EASILY had 40 if Stevens didn't keep him out for that long. Stevens is going to cost this team a title. He just has no killer instinct as a coach.

Tatum played 40.5/53 minutes last night, including all but 4 seconds of the 3rd quarter.  He needed a rest, and after he got that rest he played the entire 5:45 remaining in regulation plus the entire 5 minutes of overtime. Players aren't going to play the entire 2nd half and stay fresh, especially on a team that plays hard defense

Not to mention that the lead actually increased in the ~6 minutes Tatum sat (from 6 after Wanamaker's 2nd free throw to 7 when Tatum checked back in).  Maybe it would have been larger if Tatum had played straight through, but I would counter with saying that it's equally likely that a tired Tatum would have allowed the Clippers to take an earlier/bigger lead in the 2nd half of the 4th quarter.

Tatum ended the game playing roughly the same amount of minutes as Brown, Walker, Smart etc. Stevens clearly sticks to a script and does not allow the players to exceed his pre-conceived minutes allotment. If a guy is having a career night and did not ask to be subbed out, let him play and see what he can do. Stevens will never allow this. I've seen him do the same thing with Brown, when he's on the verge of having a monstrous night.

And don't even get me started on his rotations. RWIII is clearly the second best center on this roster yet he's back to third string on the depth chart. Why? Because Stevens is going out of his way to appease Kanter? This is absurd. He needs to play the best players and stop messing with the lineups each and every game. His coaching style makes me want to vomit.

so who is your choice to replace him?  who is available right now that will do a better job than him?

Doesn't matter who replaces him at this point. He needs to go back to Butler. You can't win a title with players who have no killer instinct and you can't win a title with a coach who has no killer instinct. There is no dog in Stevens. He coaches from a script, almost like a robot. I'm tired of him limiting the potential of these players by yanking them when they shouldn't be yanked and by allowing them to throw up shot after shot with no repercussions. He starts giving Javonte Green minutes then takes him out of the rotation completely? What is this guy doing. Yes the 11-3 record is nice but we've had enough of a sample size to know that the record itself is not a true measuring stick of anything. I simply do not like what i'm seeing out of Stevens and i haven't for the past few years.

it doesnt matter?  So how about Tyrone Lue?  It doesnt matter so we can go with him right?  And hes even won a title, so he definitely has a 'dog' in him as well.

im suggesting Lue, because you basically dodged the question by saying it doesnt matter.  Constantly complaining without providing a solution does nobody any good. 

[Spicoli]

Bump. Brad Stevens cost his team the game tonight when he took a red hot Tatum out of the game and didn't re-insert him until 6 minutes left in the freaking fourth quarter. JT was having the game of his life and could have EASILY had 40 if Stevens didn't keep him out for that long. Stevens is going to cost this team a title. He just has no killer instinct as a coach.

Tatum played 40.5/53 minutes last night, including all but 4 seconds of the 3rd quarter.  He needed a rest, and after he got that rest he played the entire 5:45 remaining in regulation plus the entire 5 minutes of overtime. Players aren't going to play the entire 2nd half and stay fresh, especially on a team that plays hard defense

Not to mention that the lead actually increased in the ~6 minutes Tatum sat (from 6 after Wanamaker's 2nd free throw to 7 when Tatum checked back in).  Maybe it would have been larger if Tatum had played straight through, but I would counter with saying that it's equally likely that a tired Tatum would have allowed the Clippers to take an earlier/bigger lead in the 2nd half of the 4th quarter.

Tatum ended the game playing roughly the same amount of minutes as Brown, Walker, Smart etc. Stevens clearly sticks to a script and does not allow the players to exceed his pre-conceived minutes allotment. If a guy is having a career night and did not ask to be subbed out, let him play and see what he can do. Stevens will never allow this. I've seen him do the same thing with Brown, when he's on the verge of having a monstrous night.

And don't even get me started on his rotations. RWIII is clearly the second best center on this roster yet he's back to third string on the depth chart. Why? Because Stevens is going out of his way to appease Kanter? This is absurd. He needs to play the best players and stop messing with the lineups each and every game. His coaching style makes me want to vomit.

so who is your choice to replace him?  who is available right now that will do a better job than him?

Doesn't matter who replaces him at this point. He needs to go back to Butler. You can't win a title with players who have no killer instinct and you can't win a title with a coach who has no killer instinct. There is no dog in Stevens. He coaches from a script, almost like a robot. I'm tired of him limiting the potential of these players by yanking them when they shouldn't be yanked and by allowing them to throw up shot after shot with no repercussions. He starts giving Javonte Green minutes then takes him out of the rotation completely? What is this guy doing. Yes the 11-3 record is nice but we've had enough of a sample size to know that the record itself is not a true measuring stick of anything. I simply do not like what i'm seeing out of Stevens and i haven't for the past few years.

it doesnt matter?  So how about Tyrone Lue?  It doesnt matter so we can go with him right?  And hes even won a title, so he definitely has a 'dog' in him as well.

im suggesting Lue, because you basically dodged the question by saying it doesnt matter.  Constantly complaining without providing a solution does nobody any good.

After this season, yes bring in Lue. I would be 100 % fine with that. I'm just looking for a change. I can't stomach Stevens' coaching any longer.

Tatum would have had 40 against Leonard + George and the entire perception of him as a player would have changed in the minds of fans + media. Instead he only ends the game with 30 because the coach cools off his own players and has done so for years.

[nickagneta]

Bump. Brad Stevens cost his team the game tonight when he took a red hot Tatum out of the game and didn't re-insert him until 6 minutes left in the freaking fourth quarter. JT was having the game of his life and could have EASILY had 40 if Stevens didn't keep him out for that long. Stevens is going to cost this team a title. He just has no killer instinct as a coach.

Tatum played 40.5/53 minutes last night, including all but 4 seconds of the 3rd quarter.  He needed a rest, and after he got that rest he played the entire 5:45 remaining in regulation plus the entire 5 minutes of overtime. Players aren't going to play the entire 2nd half and stay fresh, especially on a team that plays hard defense

Not to mention that the lead actually increased in the ~6 minutes Tatum sat (from 6 after Wanamaker's 2nd free throw to 7 when Tatum checked back in).  Maybe it would have been larger if Tatum had played straight through, but I would counter with saying that it's equally likely that a tired Tatum would have allowed the Clippers to take an earlier/bigger lead in the 2nd half of the 4th quarter.

Tatum ended the game playing roughly the same amount of minutes as Brown, Walker, Smart etc. Stevens clearly sticks to a script and does not allow the players to exceed his pre-conceived minutes allotment. If a guy is having a career night and did not ask to be subbed out, let him play and see what he can do. Stevens will never allow this. I've seen him do the same thing with Brown, when he's on the verge of having a monstrous night.

And don't even get me started on his rotations. RWIII is clearly the second best center on this roster yet he's back to third string on the depth chart. Why? Because Stevens is going out of his way to appease Kanter? This is absurd. He needs to play the best players and stop messing with the lineups each and every game. His coaching style makes me want to vomit.

Tatum played all but a few seconds of the 3rd. You don't push fate by trying to play him 18-24 minutes straight. If he gets too tired it could easily end in injury, even more likely given Steven's would still be expecting him to give 1000% on defense and not take defense off or plays off like almost all of the super high minute, super high offense guys tend to do.

This was just another regular season game. There is no reason for Tatum to have played even more minutes than he did in that OT game. This was also the 2nd straight game Tatum played the entire 3rd quarter, so clearly Stevens could be trying out a different rotation pattern.

[Fierce1]

As long as Danny Ainge is the boss, Brad Stevens isn't going anywhere.

[greg683x]

Bump. Brad Stevens cost his team the game tonight when he took a red hot Tatum out of the game and didn't re-insert him until 6 minutes left in the freaking fourth quarter. JT was having the game of his life and could have EASILY had 40 if Stevens didn't keep him out for that long. Stevens is going to cost this team a title. He just has no killer instinct as a coach.

Tatum played 40.5/53 minutes last night, including all but 4 seconds of the 3rd quarter.  He needed a rest, and after he got that rest he played the entire 5:45 remaining in regulation plus the entire 5 minutes of overtime. Players aren't going to play the entire 2nd half and stay fresh, especially on a team that plays hard defense

Not to mention that the lead actually increased in the ~6 minutes Tatum sat (from 6 after Wanamaker's 2nd free throw to 7 when Tatum checked back in).  Maybe it would have been larger if Tatum had played straight through, but I would counter with saying that it's equally likely that a tired Tatum would have allowed the Clippers to take an earlier/bigger lead in the 2nd half of the 4th quarter.

Tatum ended the game playing roughly the same amount of minutes as Brown, Walker, Smart etc. Stevens clearly sticks to a script and does not allow the players to exceed his pre-conceived minutes allotment. If a guy is having a career night and did not ask to be subbed out, let him play and see what he can do. Stevens will never allow this. I've seen him do the same thing with Brown, when he's on the verge of having a monstrous night.

And don't even get me started on his rotations. RWIII is clearly the second best center on this roster yet he's back to third string on the depth chart. Why? Because Stevens is going out of his way to appease Kanter? This is absurd. He needs to play the best players and stop messing with the lineups each and every game. His coaching style makes me want to vomit.

so who is your choice to replace him?  who is available right now that will do a better job than him?

Doesn't matter who replaces him at this point. He needs to go back to Butler. You can't win a title with players who have no killer instinct and you can't win a title with a coach who has no killer instinct. There is no dog in Stevens. He coaches from a script, almost like a robot. I'm tired of him limiting the potential of these players by yanking them when they shouldn't be yanked and by allowing them to throw up shot after shot with no repercussions. He starts giving Javonte Green minutes then takes him out of the rotation completely? What is this guy doing. Yes the 11-3 record is nice but we've had enough of a sample size to know that the record itself is not a true measuring stick of anything. I simply do not like what i'm seeing out of Stevens and i haven't for the past few years.

it doesnt matter?  So how about Tyrone Lue?  It doesnt matter so we can go with him right?  And hes even won a title, so he definitely has a 'dog' in him as well.

im suggesting Lue, because you basically dodged the question by saying it doesnt matter.  Constantly complaining without providing a solution does nobody any good.

After this season, yes bring in Lue. I would be 100 % fine with that. I'm just looking for a change. I can't stomach Stevens' coaching any longer.

wow.

[Spicoli]

Bump. Brad Stevens cost his team the game tonight when he took a red hot Tatum out of the game and didn't re-insert him until 6 minutes left in the freaking fourth quarter. JT was having the game of his life and could have EASILY had 40 if Stevens didn't keep him out for that long. Stevens is going to cost this team a title. He just has no killer instinct as a coach.

Tatum played 40.5/53 minutes last night, including all but 4 seconds of the 3rd quarter.  He needed a rest, and after he got that rest he played the entire 5:45 remaining in regulation plus the entire 5 minutes of overtime. Players aren't going to play the entire 2nd half and stay fresh, especially on a team that plays hard defense

Not to mention that the lead actually increased in the ~6 minutes Tatum sat (from 6 after Wanamaker's 2nd free throw to 7 when Tatum checked back in).  Maybe it would have been larger if Tatum had played straight through, but I would counter with saying that it's equally likely that a tired Tatum would have allowed the Clippers to take an earlier/bigger lead in the 2nd half of the 4th quarter.

Tatum ended the game playing roughly the same amount of minutes as Brown, Walker, Smart etc. Stevens clearly sticks to a script and does not allow the players to exceed his pre-conceived minutes allotment. If a guy is having a career night and did not ask to be subbed out, let him play and see what he can do. Stevens will never allow this. I've seen him do the same thing with Brown, when he's on the verge of having a monstrous night.

And don't even get me started on his rotations. RWIII is clearly the second best center on this roster yet he's back to third string on the depth chart. Why? Because Stevens is going out of his way to appease Kanter? This is absurd. He needs to play the best players and stop messing with the lineups each and every game. His coaching style makes me want to vomit.

so who is your choice to replace him?  who is available right now that will do a better job than him?

Doesn't matter who replaces him at this point. He needs to go back to Butler. You can't win a title with players who have no killer instinct and you can't win a title with a coach who has no killer instinct. There is no dog in Stevens. He coaches from a script, almost like a robot. I'm tired of him limiting the potential of these players by yanking them when they shouldn't be yanked and by allowing them to throw up shot after shot with no repercussions. He starts giving Javonte Green minutes then takes him out of the rotation completely? What is this guy doing. Yes the 11-3 record is nice but we've had enough of a sample size to know that the record itself is not a true measuring stick of anything. I simply do not like what i'm seeing out of Stevens and i haven't for the past few years.

it doesnt matter?  So how about Tyrone Lue?  It doesnt matter so we can go with him right?  And hes even won a title, so he definitely has a 'dog' in him as well.

im suggesting Lue, because you basically dodged the question by saying it doesnt matter.  Constantly complaining without providing a solution does nobody any good.

After this season, yes bring in Lue. I would be 100 % fine with that. I'm just looking for a change. I can't stomach Stevens' coaching any longer.

wow.

Is Stevens a better coach than Lue? If so tell me how. What does Stevens excel at as a coach?

Perception is important. If Tatum gets 40 against the top wing defense in the NBA then he will be talked about as a legit superstar which is what this team needs. Even if he technically isn't a superstar, the perception that he is one is helpful for trade scenarios and for recruitment. The coach keeps stopping his own players from going nuclear which is a problem. I'm surprised that you guys really don't care about that.

[Fierce1]

Bump. Brad Stevens cost his team the game tonight when he took a red hot Tatum out of the game and didn't re-insert him until 6 minutes left in the freaking fourth quarter. JT was having the game of his life and could have EASILY had 40 if Stevens didn't keep him out for that long. Stevens is going to cost this team a title. He just has no killer instinct as a coach.

Tatum played 40.5/53 minutes last night, including all but 4 seconds of the 3rd quarter.  He needed a rest, and after he got that rest he played the entire 5:45 remaining in regulation plus the entire 5 minutes of overtime. Players aren't going to play the entire 2nd half and stay fresh, especially on a team that plays hard defense

Not to mention that the lead actually increased in the ~6 minutes Tatum sat (from 6 after Wanamaker's 2nd free throw to 7 when Tatum checked back in).  Maybe it would have been larger if Tatum had played straight through, but I would counter with saying that it's equally likely that a tired Tatum would have allowed the Clippers to take an earlier/bigger lead in the 2nd half of the 4th quarter.

Tatum ended the game playing roughly the same amount of minutes as Brown, Walker, Smart etc. Stevens clearly sticks to a script and does not allow the players to exceed his pre-conceived minutes allotment. If a guy is having a career night and did not ask to be subbed out, let him play and see what he can do. Stevens will never allow this. I've seen him do the same thing with Brown, when he's on the verge of having a monstrous night.

And don't even get me started on his rotations. RWIII is clearly the second best center on this roster yet he's back to third string on the depth chart. Why? Because Stevens is going out of his way to appease Kanter? This is absurd. He needs to play the best players and stop messing with the lineups each and every game. His coaching style makes me want to vomit.

so who is your choice to replace him?  who is available right now that will do a better job than him?

Doesn't matter who replaces him at this point. He needs to go back to Butler. You can't win a title with players who have no killer instinct and you can't win a title with a coach who has no killer instinct. There is no dog in Stevens. He coaches from a script, almost like a robot. I'm tired of him limiting the potential of these players by yanking them when they shouldn't be yanked and by allowing them to throw up shot after shot with no repercussions. He starts giving Javonte Green minutes then takes him out of the rotation completely? What is this guy doing. Yes the 11-3 record is nice but we've had enough of a sample size to know that the record itself is not a true measuring stick of anything. I simply do not like what i'm seeing out of Stevens and i haven't for the past few years.

it doesnt matter?  So how about Tyrone Lue?  It doesnt matter so we can go with him right?  And hes even won a title, so he definitely has a 'dog' in him as well.

im suggesting Lue, because you basically dodged the question by saying it doesnt matter.  Constantly complaining without providing a solution does nobody any good.

After this season, yes bring in Lue. I would be 100 % fine with that. I'm just looking for a change. I can't stomach Stevens' coaching any longer.

wow.

Is Stevens a better coach than Lue? If so tell me how. What does Stevens excel at as a coach?

Perception is important. If Tatum gets 40 against the top wing defense in the NBA then he will be talked about as a legit superstar which is what this team needs. Even if he technically isn't a superstar, the perception that he is one is helpful for trade scenarios and for recruitment. The coach keeps stopping his own players from going nuclear which is a problem. I'm surprised that you guys really don't care about that.

Brad coaches the regular season differently from the playoffs.

Last season Brad shortened the rotation in the playoffs.
The starters ended up getting more minutes.

[greg683x]

Bump. Brad Stevens cost his team the game tonight when he took a red hot Tatum out of the game and didn't re-insert him until 6 minutes left in the freaking fourth quarter. JT was having the game of his life and could have EASILY had 40 if Stevens didn't keep him out for that long. Stevens is going to cost this team a title. He just has no killer instinct as a coach.

Tatum played 40.5/53 minutes last night, including all but 4 seconds of the 3rd quarter.  He needed a rest, and after he got that rest he played the entire 5:45 remaining in regulation plus the entire 5 minutes of overtime. Players aren't going to play the entire 2nd half and stay fresh, especially on a team that plays hard defense

Not to mention that the lead actually increased in the ~6 minutes Tatum sat (from 6 after Wanamaker's 2nd free throw to 7 when Tatum checked back in).  Maybe it would have been larger if Tatum had played straight through, but I would counter with saying that it's equally likely that a tired Tatum would have allowed the Clippers to take an earlier/bigger lead in the 2nd half of the 4th quarter.

Tatum ended the game playing roughly the same amount of minutes as Brown, Walker, Smart etc. Stevens clearly sticks to a script and does not allow the players to exceed his pre-conceived minutes allotment. If a guy is having a career night and did not ask to be subbed out, let him play and see what he can do. Stevens will never allow this. I've seen him do the same thing with Brown, when he's on the verge of having a monstrous night.

And don't even get me started on his rotations. RWIII is clearly the second best center on this roster yet he's back to third string on the depth chart. Why? Because Stevens is going out of his way to appease Kanter? This is absurd. He needs to play the best players and stop messing with the lineups each and every game. His coaching style makes me want to vomit.

so who is your choice to replace him?  who is available right now that will do a better job than him?

Doesn't matter who replaces him at this point. He needs to go back to Butler. You can't win a title with players who have no killer instinct and you can't win a title with a coach who has no killer instinct. There is no dog in Stevens. He coaches from a script, almost like a robot. I'm tired of him limiting the potential of these players by yanking them when they shouldn't be yanked and by allowing them to throw up shot after shot with no repercussions. He starts giving Javonte Green minutes then takes him out of the rotation completely? What is this guy doing. Yes the 11-3 record is nice but we've had enough of a sample size to know that the record itself is not a true measuring stick of anything. I simply do not like what i'm seeing out of Stevens and i haven't for the past few years.

it doesnt matter?  So how about Tyrone Lue?  It doesnt matter so we can go with him right?  And hes even won a title, so he definitely has a 'dog' in him as well.

im suggesting Lue, because you basically dodged the question by saying it doesnt matter.  Constantly complaining without providing a solution does nobody any good.

After this season, yes bring in Lue. I would be 100 % fine with that. I'm just looking for a change. I can't stomach Stevens' coaching any longer.

wow.

Is Stevens a better coach than Lue? If so tell me how. What does Stevens excel at as a coach?

how about hes had his team in the conference finals 2 of the past three years.

both of those years, that team had NO BUSINESS being there because he had no star player.  His teams have always overachieved except for when hes had to deal with a head case of a star player that didnt want to be there.

how about hes widely regarded as the 2nd best coach in the league, regarded by people who have a lot more basketball knowledge than you.

Yes Tyron Lue has won a ring.  Hes also had Lebron James.  He also cant find a a head coaching job now.  Even the team that has Lebron, lowballed him an offer to be coach because EVERYONE knows hes a toy coach. 

Look at how the Cavs played after Lebron left with Lue as coach, he got fired when they were 0-6.  That team had more talent on it than teams Brad Stevens has made the playoffs with.

If you really think Tyron Lue is a better coach than Brad Stevens I dont know what to tell you.  If all you base it on is that hes won one flippin title, then you probably think Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Dan Marino

[Spicoli]

Bump. Brad Stevens cost his team the game tonight when he took a red hot Tatum out of the game and didn't re-insert him until 6 minutes left in the freaking fourth quarter. JT was having the game of his life and could have EASILY had 40 if Stevens didn't keep him out for that long. Stevens is going to cost this team a title. He just has no killer instinct as a coach.

Tatum played 40.5/53 minutes last night, including all but 4 seconds of the 3rd quarter.  He needed a rest, and after he got that rest he played the entire 5:45 remaining in regulation plus the entire 5 minutes of overtime. Players aren't going to play the entire 2nd half and stay fresh, especially on a team that plays hard defense

Not to mention that the lead actually increased in the ~6 minutes Tatum sat (from 6 after Wanamaker's 2nd free throw to 7 when Tatum checked back in).  Maybe it would have been larger if Tatum had played straight through, but I would counter with saying that it's equally likely that a tired Tatum would have allowed the Clippers to take an earlier/bigger lead in the 2nd half of the 4th quarter.

Tatum ended the game playing roughly the same amount of minutes as Brown, Walker, Smart etc. Stevens clearly sticks to a script and does not allow the players to exceed his pre-conceived minutes allotment. If a guy is having a career night and did not ask to be subbed out, let him play and see what he can do. Stevens will never allow this. I've seen him do the same thing with Brown, when he's on the verge of having a monstrous night.

And don't even get me started on his rotations. RWIII is clearly the second best center on this roster yet he's back to third string on the depth chart. Why? Because Stevens is going out of his way to appease Kanter? This is absurd. He needs to play the best players and stop messing with the lineups each and every game. His coaching style makes me want to vomit.

so who is your choice to replace him?  who is available right now that will do a better job than him?

Doesn't matter who replaces him at this point. He needs to go back to Butler. You can't win a title with players who have no killer instinct and you can't win a title with a coach who has no killer instinct. There is no dog in Stevens. He coaches from a script, almost like a robot. I'm tired of him limiting the potential of these players by yanking them when they shouldn't be yanked and by allowing them to throw up shot after shot with no repercussions. He starts giving Javonte Green minutes then takes him out of the rotation completely? What is this guy doing. Yes the 11-3 record is nice but we've had enough of a sample size to know that the record itself is not a true measuring stick of anything. I simply do not like what i'm seeing out of Stevens and i haven't for the past few years.

it doesnt matter?  So how about Tyrone Lue?  It doesnt matter so we can go with him right?  And hes even won a title, so he definitely has a 'dog' in him as well.

im suggesting Lue, because you basically dodged the question by saying it doesnt matter.  Constantly complaining without providing a solution does nobody any good.

After this season, yes bring in Lue. I would be 100 % fine with that. I'm just looking for a change. I can't stomach Stevens' coaching any longer.

wow.

Is Stevens a better coach than Lue? If so tell me how. What does Stevens excel at as a coach?

how about hes had his team in the conference finals 2 of the past three years.

both of those years, that team had NO BUSINESS being there because he had no star player.  His teams have always overachieved except for when hes had to deal with a head case of a star player that didnt want to be there.

how about hes widely regarded as the 2nd best coach in the league, regarded by people who have a lot more basketball knowledge than you.

Yes Tyron Lue has won a ring.  Hes also had Lebron James.  He also cant find a a head coaching job now.  Even the team that has Lebron, lowballed him an offer to be coach because EVERYONE knows hes a toy coach.

If you really think Tyron Lue is a better coach than Brad Stevens I dont know what to tell you.  If all you base it on is that hes won one flippin title, then you probably think Trent Dilfer is a better QB than Dan Marino

Honestly i don't want to get into a whole debate about Stevens vs. Lue. That probably won't go anywhere. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that. I criticize the players when i feel as though it's justified, i eat crow when i feel as though it's justified, and i criticize the coach when i feel as though it's justified. Basketball is not complicated. I've played this game my whole life. You put the ball in the hole on one end, and on the other you stop the team from putting the ball in the hole. People make it seem like this stuff is rocket science and that we fans have no idea what we're talking about. This game is simple, but i can clearly see this coach is making things way harder than they need to be.