NBA 2019-2020 season thread

[celticsclay]

With the results from tonight we have a very comfortable cushion for the 3rd seed with how many games are less. Unfortunately, the worst case scenario could be the 76ers dropping into 6th without ben and embid, and then having them both rested and healthy for a first round series. I would be happy playing either Miami or Indiana.

[ozgod]

I don't get PHI....

Didn't Embiid and Simmons play well TOGETHER last year? What changed? Losing Reddick?

Using all of your cap space to sign the three stooges of mediocrity (Horford, Tobias Harris, and Josh Richardson) is what changed.

Yeah, the Sixers replaced Butler and Redick with Richardson and Horford.

Not working out for the Sixers.

Sixers are now back to where they were in 2018.

I think they were better back in 2018 

[SHAQATTACK]

See how far a Embiid Simmons team can go carried by Uncle Al and Cousin T .

we have to play down 1- 2-3- starters all the time , lets see how they stack up and see if Brown can really coach less his best players .   I think he is cooked unless they win the East .  The magic is gone between him and his stars .

[nickagneta]

Remember when we were told the Process would be a success and the Philly fans would be happy if the Sixers just won 50 games, since the team hadn't won that much since the 1980's?

Maybe people who visit Liberty Ballers can help me out,
but it sure doesn't appear to me like Sixer fans are happy or think the Process successful.

[Donoghus]

Remember when we were told the Process would be a success and the Philly fans would be happy if the Sixers just won 50 games, since the team hadn't won that much since the 1980's?

Maybe people who visit Liberty Ballers can help me out,
but it sure doesn't appear to me like Sixer fans are happy or think the Process successful.

Anything less than a championship should be considered a failure for the Process. 

You don't bottom out with the hope that you'll have a 10 year string of 50+ win seasons with conference semi or conference final bow outs.   Aspirations should be higher than that.

[RPGenerate]

Remember when we were told the Process would be a success and the Philly fans would be happy if the Sixers just won 50 games, since the team hadn't won that much since the 1980's?

Maybe people who visit Liberty Ballers can help me out,
but it sure doesn't appear to me like Sixer fans are happy or think the Process successful.

Bathing in the salt of everyone at Liberty Baller is a glorious occasion. The general consensus over there seems to be that Brett Brown is a moron, and Brand is incompetent and ruined the Process by signing Tobias Harris and Al Horford.

[gift]

Remember when we were told the Process would be a success and the Philly fans would be happy if the Sixers just won 50 games, since the team hadn't won that much since the 1980's?

Maybe people who visit Liberty Ballers can help me out,
but it sure doesn't appear to me like Sixer fans are happy or think the Process successful.

To be fair, they aborted the process early, which was always the riskiest part about it in the first place. What you're seeing is the result of the sequel, the Colangelo Correction, not The Process itself.

[Donoghus]

Remember when we were told the Process would be a success and the Philly fans would be happy if the Sixers just won 50 games, since the team hadn't won that much since the 1980's?

Maybe people who visit Liberty Ballers can help me out,
but it sure doesn't appear to me like Sixer fans are happy or think the Process successful.

To be fair, they aborted the process early, which was always the riskiest part about it in the first place. What you're seeing is the result of the sequel, the Colangelo Correction, not The Process itself.

Well, that's the thing.  They'll always pivot on what the Process is,  what the actual window was/is, so on & so forth.  The narrative is always changing.   That way you'll never get to the point to admit its a failure, if that what it turns out to be.

[celticsclay]

Remember when we were told the Process would be a success and the Philly fans would be happy if the Sixers just won 50 games, since the team hadn't won that much since the 1980's?

Maybe people who visit Liberty Ballers can help me out,
but it sure doesn't appear to me like Sixer fans are happy or think the Process successful.

Nick they are miserable over there and hate brand, brown, Horford and Harris the player and Harris the owner.

[johnnygreen]

I’m still shocked Miami made changes at the deadline (2-7 since), especially since they had such a cohesive unit. To make matters worse, Pat Riley basically blindly extended a 36 year old Iguodala for 2 years at $30M.

[nickagneta]

Remember when we were told the Process would be a success and the Philly fans would be happy if the Sixers just won 50 games, since the team hadn't won that much since the 1980's?

Maybe people who visit Liberty Ballers can help me out,
but it sure doesn't appear to me like Sixer fans are happy or think the Process successful.

Nick they are miserable over there and hate brand, brown, Horford and Harris the player and Harris the owner.

I kind of figured, clay, and the reason is the Process is failing. Is there a feeling over there of "Is this what we went through 4 years of all time horrible basketball for?" Lord knows if I was a Sixer fan I would be screaming that from the top of a large building in downtown Philly.

[Monkhouse]

All of the positive assets the 76ers currently have are the direct result of the front office's and organization's incompetence and inability to do due diligence... Why would anyone expect that to suddenly change or become the opposite? Just because they somehow managed to draft two perennial All-Stars?

*They drafted Markelle Fultz, who was labelled as one of the biggest busts considering he obviously went from being a consensus first round pick to being traded away after two years, with basically nothing to show for it. It was only after his departure, did Fultz actually look like a serviceable player in the league.

*They managed to team up two top 20 players in the league, who quite literally have the worst chemistry on the court that I've ever seen in two dominant All-Stars.

*Brett Brown suddenly went from being an experienced well known coach and protege/assistant/best friends to Coach Popovich to somehow being crucified on the daily for his X/O's, lack of fundamentals, and inability to convince his All-Star PG to even attempt a freakin' 3 pointer..

*They gave Tobias Freaking-What-Have-You-Done-For-Me-Lately Harris $180/5 years, not to mention they followed that up by not only giving Al Horford $98/4, (107 with incentives), but are now bringing him off the bench. And their excuse for signing Horford in the first place is to give Embiid some extra rest due to his inability to have solid discipline + great conditioning fundamentals. And because they were tired of Horford slowing down Embiid.

*They not only let Jimmy Butler walk after one of their most successful seasons, but their argument was that they needed someone who could space the floor and create offense. But Embiid/Butler had great on-court chemistry, both great defenders, and both of them took the tough shots in the clutch. I'd certainly give Butler that max contract instead of Harris, despite concerns over his mileage due to being coached by Thibs.

To this day, I still don't know what the 'Trust the Process,' even actually meant...Did it mean be intentionally be bad for the next few years, try to abuse the system by hopefully scratching a few lottery tickets in hopes of landing on something, and then magically become a competent organization somehow? It doesn't quite work like that unfortunately.

Inherently, I rarely boo anyone. Unless I seriously don't like them, but if you sometimes visit Liberty Ballers, majority of them are consistently right for booing or voicing their frustrations. I think it's totally justified. Their management just plain outright sucks, the Colangelo fiasco was also ridiculous, and while Hinkie was the fall back guy for intentionally tanking. I think they would've been better served giving Hinkie a shot to have stayed past his contract or at least not let him go so quickly.

Hinkie probably wouldn't have ever let himself get finessed the way Colangelo did against Ainge during the 2018 draft.

They took their fanbase through some of the most toughest times, with false promises of a bright future that they honestly probably have no ability to provide now. They need to make a fierce decision as to who to build around, eliminate or cut off some bad contracts. I think their better off trying to find someone to take Horford or Harris. Heck, Bertans or Kevin Love would be better suited on that team right now.

[celticsclay]

Remember when we were told the Process would be a success and the Philly fans would be happy if the Sixers just won 50 games, since the team hadn't won that much since the 1980's?

Maybe people who visit Liberty Ballers can help me out,
but it sure doesn't appear to me like Sixer fans are happy or think the Process successful.

Nick they are miserable over there and hate brand, brown, Horford and Harris the player and Harris the owner.

I kind of figured, clay, and the reason is the Process is failing. Is there a feeling over there of "Is this what we went through 4 years of all time horrible basketball for?" Lord knows if I was a Sixer fan I would be screaming that from the top of a large building in downtown Philly.

Well I think part of the frustration is that there is a feeling if they kept saric, shamet, Covington, Holmes and were more patient with going after a different player (brogdon or Kemba for example in free Angecy) they would be set up a lot better long term now. There is also a feeling brown coddles Simmons and Embiid and delusionnally allows Simmons to not shoot and call himself a point guard which led to the departure of butler. The signing of Harris and Horford at max and acquisition of Richardson are viewed as disasters to varying degrees with the Horford signing basically having the chance to sink the franchise by causing mediocrity that could lead to Simmons or embody demanding a trade.

[Fierce1]

I’m still shocked Miami made changes at the deadline (2-7 since), especially since they had such a cohesive unit. To make matters worse, Pat Riley basically blindly extended a 36 year old Iguodala for 2 years at $30M.

Heat are most probably expecting Iguodala to help them in the playoffs.

[gift]

Remember when we were told the Process would be a success and the Philly fans would be happy if the Sixers just won 50 games, since the team hadn't won that much since the 1980's?

Maybe people who visit Liberty Ballers can help me out,
but it sure doesn't appear to me like Sixer fans are happy or think the Process successful.

To be fair, they aborted the process early, which was always the riskiest part about it in the first place. What you're seeing is the result of the sequel, the Colangelo Correction, not The Process itself.

Well, that's the thing.  They'll always pivot on what the Process is,  what the actual window was/is, so on & so forth.  The narrative is always changing.   That way you'll never get to the point to admit its a failure, if that what it turns out to be.

It's clear what the Process was and it was over when Colangelo came in. The Process was a failure in that it was too painful to complete.