Celtics (0-0) at Sixers (0-0) Game #1 10/23/19

[Fierce1]

Best case scenario for Jaylen is he ends up becoming the next Iggy.

It would also be better for Brown to come off the bench.
There's just not enough shots if he's with Kemba, Hayward, and Tatum.
Jaylen and Carsen would give the Celts bench a lot of firepower.

[keevsnick]

Ever since last season it's always excuses for Jaylen Brown.

Now he's being paid around 26m per year, so I think it's time to stop making excuses for Jaylen.

Reason why Brown got in foul trouble is he was playing the 4.
Maybe Brown can handle the 4s in college and FIBA, but 4s in the NBA are stronger and better.
When the game started, Jaylen was guarding Horford.
That resulted in Jaylen getting in foul trouble.
Jaylen is not an NBA 4.

I find his strange, he did really well on Horford tonight. I don't remember every foul he committed but I know that 4 of them were on Harris, Ennis, Richardson and one on Ebiid (offensive). So none on a guy playing power forward or in the post.

Reason is Brown had to switch a lot to protect the paint.

When you play the 4 or the 5, you're responsible for the players rolling to the basket.
That's why Brown ended up fouling Harris and the others.
If Brown was playing SF on defense, he wouldn't have to switch on the players that were rolling to the basket.

When Horford was setting a pick, Brown had to cover the player that Horford had to set a pick for.
That means Brown must stop the player coming off the Horford pick from driving to the basket.

Again man, not what happened. At most one of his fouls was off a switch. He committed one foul biting on a pump fake (no switch). Another fighting around a screen near the three point line (opposite of a switch). One against Embiids face (not even on defense). One cutting a guy off on the drive (not off a switch). The last I don't remember.

There is nothing wrong with Jaylen covering most 4s. Brad does it, Pop did it, those guys arent stupid.

Last season Brown didn't cover 4s.

This is the first time Brad used Brown as a 4.

It was Morris, Horford, and sometimes Tatum covering the 4s last season.

I distinctly remember him covering both Kevin love and Blake Griffin for stretches. So yes, he did. Not a lot I'll grant you, but this isn't a new thing and he's not bad at it. To be clear I think in most games Jaylen will be covering guards, with hayward the PF. But Jaylen can do either, its more a matter  of what hayward is best at.

[keevsnick]

Best case scenario for Jaylen is he ends up becoming the next Iggy.

It would also be better for Brown to come off the bench.
There's just not enough shots if he's with Kemba, Hayward, and Tatum.
Jaylen and Carsen would give the Celts bench a lot of firepower.

I wouldn't have a problem with this. One overlooked thing is our bench doesn't have a lot of firepower. If it gets Jaylen more shots that would be good.

[blink]

Ever since last season it's always excuses for Jaylen Brown.

Now he's being paid around 26m per year, so I think it's time to stop making excuses for Jaylen.

Reason why Brown got in foul trouble is he was playing the 4.
Maybe Brown can handle the 4s in college and FIBA, but 4s in the NBA are stronger and better.
When the game started, Jaylen was guarding Horford.
That resulted in Jaylen getting in foul trouble.
Jaylen is not an NBA 4.

I find his strange, he did really well on Horford tonight. I don't remember every foul he committed but I know that 4 of them were on Harris, Ennis, Richardson and one on Ebiid (offensive). So none on a guy playing power forward or in the post.

Reason is Brown had to switch a lot to protect the paint.

When you play the 4 or the 5, you're responsible for the players rolling to the basket.
That's why Brown ended up fouling Harris and the others.
If Brown was playing SF on defense, he wouldn't have to switch on the players that were rolling to the basket.

When Horford was setting a pick, Brown had to cover the player that Horford had to set a pick for.
That means Brown must stop the player coming off the Horford pick from driving to the basket.

Again man, not what happened. At most one of his fouls was off a switch. He committed one foul biting on a pump fake (no switch). Another fighting around a screen near the three point line (opposite of a switch). One against Embiids face (not even on defense). One cutting a guy off on the drive (not off a switch). The last I don't remember.

There is nothing wrong with Jaylen covering most 4s. Brad does it, Pop did it, those guys arent stupid.

Last season Brown didn't cover 4s.

This is the first time Brad used Brown as a 4.

It was Morris, Horford, and sometimes Tatum covering the 4s last season.

I distinctly remember him covering both Kevin love and Blake Griffin for stretches. So yes, he did. Not a lot I'll grant you, but this isn't a new thing and he's not bad at it. To be clear I think in most games Jaylen will be covering guards, with hayward the PF. But Jaylen can do either, its more a matter  of what hayward is best at.

Sixers are a tough match up for us when we are on D.  Brown and Smart can't guard everyone.  Brown started on Al, and Hayward was really couldn't keep up with Simmons at times, but then when Brown was out and Hayward was on Al, it wasn't good either.  It should really be Tatum that is guarding Al, then Jaylen can take Simmons, but Tatum can't guard Al.

[Fierce1]

Toronto is not as big as Philly, so we'll know more in the next game.

[Fierce1]

One thing's for sure, Langford will be stuck on the bench this season.

[keevsnick]

Ever since last season it's always excuses for Jaylen Brown.

Now he's being paid around 26m per year, so I think it's time to stop making excuses for Jaylen.

Reason why Brown got in foul trouble is he was playing the 4.
Maybe Brown can handle the 4s in college and FIBA, but 4s in the NBA are stronger and better.
When the game started, Jaylen was guarding Horford.
That resulted in Jaylen getting in foul trouble.
Jaylen is not an NBA 4.

I find his strange, he did really well on Horford tonight. I don't remember every foul he committed but I know that 4 of them were on Harris, Ennis, Richardson and one on Ebiid (offensive). So none on a guy playing power forward or in the post.

Reason is Brown had to switch a lot to protect the paint.

When you play the 4 or the 5, you're responsible for the players rolling to the basket.
That's why Brown ended up fouling Harris and the others.
If Brown was playing SF on defense, he wouldn't have to switch on the players that were rolling to the basket.

When Horford was setting a pick, Brown had to cover the player that Horford had to set a pick for.
That means Brown must stop the player coming off the Horford pick from driving to the basket.

Again man, not what happened. At most one of his fouls was off a switch. He committed one foul biting on a pump fake (no switch). Another fighting around a screen near the three point line (opposite of a switch). One against Embiids face (not even on defense). One cutting a guy off on the drive (not off a switch). The last I don't remember.

There is nothing wrong with Jaylen covering most 4s. Brad does it, Pop did it, those guys arent stupid.

Last season Brown didn't cover 4s.

This is the first time Brad used Brown as a 4.

It was Morris, Horford, and sometimes Tatum covering the 4s last season.

I distinctly remember him covering both Kevin love and Blake Griffin for stretches. So yes, he did. Not a lot I'll grant you, but this isn't a new thing and he's not bad at it. To be clear I think in most games Jaylen will be covering guards, with hayward the PF. But Jaylen can do either, its more a matter  of what hayward is best at.

Sixers are a tough match up for us when we are on D.  Brown and Smart can't guard everyone.  Brown started on Al, and Hayward was really couldn't keep up with Simmons at times, but then when Brown was out and Hayward was on Al, it wasn't good either.  It should really be Tatum that is guarding Al, then Jaylen can take Simmons, but Tatum can't guard Al.

Ya. The biggest issue is that Jaylen's foul trouble (and Al now being on philli) meant there was no one to match up with Simmons, especially in transition. Hayward is a fine defender, but athletically Simmons makes him look slow. Really if the C's are gonna win against Philli they just have to hit shots, and tonight they didn't. Tho I thought  their shot selectin was fne.

[ETNCeltics]

There's really no way to draw conclusions from one game, pro or con. It's gonna take a while to gel even in a best case scenario.

[Ogaju]

There's really no way to draw conclusions from one game, pro or con. It's gonna take a while to gel even in a best case scenario.

Heard this all last year. Funny Clippers and Lakers played efficiently with new pieces.

[Ogaju]

Ever since last season it's always excuses for Jaylen Brown.

Now he's being paid around 26m per year, so I think it's time to stop making excuses for Jaylen.

Reason why Brown got in foul trouble is he was playing the 4.
Maybe Brown can handle the 4s in college and FIBA, but 4s in the NBA are stronger and better.
When the game started, Jaylen was guarding Horford.
That resulted in Jaylen getting in foul trouble.
Jaylen is not an NBA 4.

who came up with that idea of Brown playing the 4 position?

[gouki88]

There's really no way to draw conclusions from one game, pro or con. It's gonna take a while to gel even in a best case scenario.

Heard this all last year. Funny Clippers and Lakers played efficiently with new pieces.

I don’t think you can compare the Clippers, a pretty experienced team that only made one significant change (that was on display), and the Lakers, a team with two top 10 guys in the league, to us. I think we’re more like Utah, who only just scraped by OKC and look like they too need time to gel.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

There's really no way to draw conclusions from one game, pro or con. It's gonna take a while to gel even in a best case scenario.

Heard this all last year. Funny Clippers and Lakers played efficiently with new pieces.

Yeah, after last season, I'm not buying any of the "be patient," "it takes time to gel," "it's only one game," or "they can't shoot this bad very often" crap. We've heard all of the excuses a bazillion times. These players need to put a good product on the floor soon.

[Ogaju]

There is growing pattern with Brad Stevens Celtics teams.... no fire, and no personal accountability. That is on coaching folks.

[ETNCeltics]

There's really no way to draw conclusions from one game, pro or con. It's gonna take a while to gel even in a best case scenario.

Heard this all last year. Funny Clippers and Lakers played efficiently with new pieces.

Huh? Lakers played efficiently? They lost by a similar score as we did, and LBJ & AD both had poor games. Basically a career game from Danny Green kept them from losing by 25+.

[greenrunsdeep41]

Best case scenario for Jaylen is he ends up becoming the next Iggy.

It would also be better for Brown to come off the bench.
There's just not enough shots if he's with Kemba, Hayward, and Tatum.
Jaylen and Carsen would give the Celts bench a lot of firepower.

The jaylen brown hate is strong in you. I feel a deep darkness that will not go quiet into that good night.

Chill, bro. Jaylen is here to stay. You best get use to it for the sake of your happy chemicals.