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Re: On what issues do you disagree with your political party of choice?
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I was a registered democrat when I was younger but became disillusioned with left leaning ideology when I dated a very liberal girl who went on to become a History and Ethnic and Gender Studies Professor.

I felt a huge blow back from the left because I saw first hand what I perceived to be the mental gymnastics that her and her family would go through to justify their claims. To me it felt like they just lacked a sense of competition and were resentful of the truly successful in society.

That blow back pushed me much farther to the right and for a while I would take nearly any position as long as it was opposed to the far left. I felt played and was angry that not only did this pervasive mindset exist but that it was running rampant in the college system.

But then inevitably I found the same level of  irrational thought on the other end of the political spectrum when I spent some time doing Contract work in West Virginia. Here I was surrounded by republicans and heard arguments that were just as baseless from what my ex was throwing out.

Now I consider myself to be a center leaning libertarian.

I feel that the values that the West was built on are generally good and should be protected although I acknowledge that we have not always lived up to our ideals.

I feel that the decline in traditional family oriented values has lead to crisis of meaning with people feeling that their lives lacks purpose.

I feel that much of our system is inherently flawed and some type of mass restructuring of society is inevitable.

I try to remain adaptable to an evolving more global focused world while also holding onto a core set of values.

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Registered Libertarian.

I was a registered democrat when I was younger but became disillusioned with left leaning ideology when I dated a very liberal girl who went on to become a History and Ethnic and Gender Studies Professor.

I felt a huge blow back from the left because I saw first hand what I perceived to be the mental gymnastics that her and her family would go through to justify their claims. To me it felt like they just lacked a sense of competition and were resentful of the truly successful in society.

That blow back pushed me much farther to the right and for a while I would take nearly any position as long as it was opposed to the far left. I felt played and was angry that not only did this pervasive mindset exist but that it was running rampant in the college system.

But then inevitably I found the same level of  irrational thought on the other end of the political spectrum when I spent some time doing Contract work in West Virginia. Here I was surrounded by republicans and heard arguments that were just as baseless from what my ex was throwing out.

Now I consider myself to be a center leaning libertarian.

I feel that the values that the West was built on are generally good and should be protected although I acknowledge that we have not always lived up to our ideals.

I feel that the decline in traditional family oriented values has lead to crisis of meaning with people feeling that their lives lacks purpose.

I feel that much of our system is inherently flawed and some type of mass restructuring of society is inevitable.

I try to remain adaptable to an evolving more global focused world while also holding onto a core set of values.

The thread was aimed at how you stray from your ideology or party of choice.  Not why you are a libertarian  - but where you differ from libertarians.  For instance, maybe you question how a society in the midst of the social breakdown you describe would benefit from increasing freedom — environmental de-regulation; gun rights; laissez faire capitalism; global isolation; legalizing drugs; reducing taxes; eliminating welfare.  Though I think Libertarians are wrong about our society’s readiness for some of their positions,, it isn’t my point to argue against the ideology— just wondering where you aren’t aligned with your party.

This thread is kind if a gift - allows us to voice how we see outside the perspectives prescribed in our own party of choice and to see that others aren’t purely tied to all the tenets of theirs. I’m seeing this as possibly revealing that people who are generally ideologically different may actually have some common views. 

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Honestly, I do not have a party and have voted for both at various times but I think they both have flaws and care more about party than country.   I liked the Dems when they did not have all these socialist, commumist, open border crap.    I like the republicans more when they were pre-Tea Party.

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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2019, 07:13:44 AM »

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Was a registered Democrat until I unenrolled in 2016.  This year I have donated $33 to the Libertarian party, $6 to Andrew Yang (plus a $50 MATH hat purchase), and $5 to Kirstin Gillibrand.  I consider myself an independent.

The one issue I disagree with all parties on is taxation.  I prefer taxes to be low, generally, during a person's life.
1) I think specific sales or other taxes should be instituted to fund specific and necessary regulatory agencies.  Example: tax on alcohol and drugs to fund the FDA, taxes on capital gains or banks or something to fund the SEC, taxes on dirty energy to fund the EPA, taxes on corporate profit to fund FTC, etc.  They don't have to be exactly those I just mentioned, I have lots of thoughts on particulars that evolve all the time, but that's a loose feeling on my thoughts there.  These tax rates shouldn't have to be that cumbersome to fund these agencies either.
2) I think income tax should be abolished and taxes should largely be assessed based on property.  My reasoning for this follows from #1 above that taxes should be collected to pay for specific things I need the government to provide.  The government does not provide any service for my income.  The 3 levels of government *do* provide a lot for my safety, in terms of protection from foreign government invasions, police, and fire.  These are all protections of one's property, which is why I think that's a more fair tax assessment than income earned.  I think with this, you could probably institute a flat tax rate rather than a progressive tax rate which could ease feelings of class warfare when it comes to taxation.  Unsure about that though.
3) Lastly, I think we should have a very hefty death/estate/inheritance/whatever-you-want-to-call-it tax.  This is where I certainly stray away from the Libertarian party.  I think passing on wealth to our heirs is one of the biggest promoters of socio-economic inequality in our country, particularly as it pertains to race.  I believe that chunk of tax revenue should largely if not all be spent on a high quality public education to give all US citizens something closer to an equal chance at economic prosperity and success.

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I don't know if I can call them "my" political party. I'm more of a libertarian. I voted for Johnson in the last election. 

1) I disagree with the right on the subject of abortion. I believe it is the woman's place to choose. It's her business...it's her body. Unless she is using abortion as a form of birth control. After a small chosen number of procedures, the cost should be passed to the recipient.   

2) I hate that the right uses religion to blunged anyone that opposes them. I don't adhere to blind faith. I have many questions concerning God, Christ, and faith in general. Churches should pay taxes.   

3) I don't believe that trans, gay, or homosexual, people should be shunned and persecuted in the name of religion or any other assinine reason as some on the right profess. Deal with it we ALL have male AND female genes in our bodies.

4) I dislike very much that the left is heading towards being a socialist party. 

5) I despise that if the left says it's up...then the right has no choice but to say it's down. I believe that politics, in general, has taken on a Red Sox vs Yankee's mentality. BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars are being made with this "political game" on radio, TV and in print. We're being used to line the pockets of these mega news outlets by keeping us at each other's throats 24/7.   

Hats off to the OP for the question.

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« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2019, 11:54:03 AM »

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This is a tough question to answer, since I usually vote Democrat and have to decide who represents my party. Is it the far left, who seem to be speaking for the party, or the center-left, with whom I identify (I voted for Weld, Romney and Baker for Massachusetts. Most of my other votes have been for Dems.)?

Assuming that we're talking about the far left:

Health care: We MUST have some combination of private and public health care. Nobody should ever go bankrupt because they can't pay their medical bills, and it's ludicrous that health care is attached to employment, since it's when you're unemployed that you are most financially vulnerable. On the other hand, we simply cannot afford a Medicare for all plan. I wish we could. But we can't.

College: Probably another "spending" issue. We cannot afford free public college for everyone. In fact, not everyone should go to college. Do you know how much I pay my freakin' plumber? Forget college, I'm gonna teach my kids to plumb.

Israel: No country, including Israel, makes a good occupier, but the left has somehow made it fashionable to criticize Israel for anything and everything, but accept the persecution of women and minority groups because they use religion to excuse it.

The Squad: At least a couple of them are nucking futs.

I'm sure that there are plenty more, but I'm out for now.

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Re: On what issues do you disagree with your political party of choice?
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Honestly, I do not have a party and have voted for both at various times but I think they both have flaws and care more about party than country.   I liked the Dems when they did not have all these socialist, commumist, open border crap.    I like the republicans more when they were pre-Tea Party.

this is where Im at mostly .  I would like the republicans to have more compassion for the US citizens down on their  luck. 

Protecting the earths atmosphere and environment is a grave concern that could have catastrophic repercussions in next 100 years.   Both parties need to do something or more ,  that addresses this without shutting down every factory in the USA .  Our people need jobs too .

This country is too rich to have people living in the streets and going without food.  I would like to see the Republican s soften their hearts .
I would like the far left to stop condeeming capitalism.


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I am, of course, a massive liberal and have been a registered Democrat since 1983. That said I am more of a socially liberal, fiscally conservative type guy. I voted for Reagan and Bush I, 3 different Republican governors in Massachusetts and every Republican that ran against Ted Kennedy.

Now what don't I agree with regarding the Democratic party?

Many on the right are now trying to paint the Democratic Party as Socialists. That is just a fringe group of the party much like the Republicans have fringe groups. It doesn't make the party as a whole that fringe group.

So I don't agree with much of the Socialist stuff that the Democrats' far left tout, but I do agree that the issues they are addressing need to have something done to rectify problems.

Medicare for all? Maybe, maybe not. But let's try to do something to fix the problem of rising health, health insurance and prescription costs in this country. Obamacare was a step in the right direction. It needed to be amended and have some holes filled but it was a step in the right direction. There is a reason the Dems won the midterms and fixing these costs were the number one reason. Not sure Medicare for all fixes the issues.

Universal paid college. Probably not, but the rising costs of higher education, fixing the problem of having 22 year olds coming out of college in massive debt and fixing the problem of parents having to sacrifice their retirement to pay for the child's education all does need to be addressed. If handled properly, this would also go a long way to help correct the massive, and still growing, wealth and earnings gap that exists in this country.

Welfare. Never liked it. Welwork. I do like. I have advocated that on this site going back over a decade. If you receive some form of welfare, I think it must come with the cost of some mandatory worked hours in the community. I am not sure how much but look at it this way, if everyone who was older than 18 who received food stamps, welfare money or public housing were forced to work just one to two hours a week for their local town, city, county or state, the amount of extra work that could get done would be ridiculous. If you can get more hours approved, even better. The average welfare recipient gets $404 a month of welfare and the average food stamp recipient gets $126 a month. Is asking for those who get that to work 4-10 hours a month for that welfare asking too much? I don't think so.

Infrastructure. I disagree with both parties here because both say it is a priority. This should be a bipartisan issue that gets done easily but never does. JUST GET SOMETHING DONE!!! Either party. Both parties. Just do it. Roads, bridges, railroad tracks, government buildings are crumbling or in dire need of repair, upgrade or replacement all across this nation. Find the money. Spend less in the military. Do some major forensic accounting and get the graft out of the federal budget to pay for it. Stop the pork spending. But get the money and fix America's infrastructure.

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« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2019, 02:29:49 PM »

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Honestly, I do not have a party and have voted for both at various times but I think they both have flaws and care more about party than country.   I liked the Dems when they did not have all these socialist, commumist, open border crap.    I like the republicans more when they were pre-Tea Party.

You are usually the most challenging poster here for me to figure. Always interested in your input and appreciate your research.  One thing confuses me in particular and sorry to glom onto this one item, but I really don’t understand the “open borders” thing.  I’ve listened to dozens of democrats (not just POTUS candidates) talk about immigration and I have never heard “open borders” mentioned once as a favored strategy nor does the description they give sound to me like open borders.  Please don’t locate one example of one person saying it — even if you could find the words coming out of Liz Warrens mouth it won’t prove that this is a dem thing. 

“Open borders” is a Trump fake news line.  No one wants open borders though some are more open to easier entry than others.  I actually think Dick Durban’s multi-pronged immigration plan with Lyndsay Graham is not only on target, but something most dems would agree with. 

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Honestly, I do not have a party and have voted for both at various times but I think they both have flaws and care more about party than country.   I liked the Dems when they did not have all these socialist, commumist, open border crap.    I like the republicans more when they were pre-Tea Party.

You are usually the most challenging poster here for me to figure. Always interested in your input and appreciate your research.  One thing confuses me in particular and sorry to glom onto this one item, but I really don’t understand the “open borders” thing.  I’ve listened to dozens of democrats (not just POTUS candidates) talk about immigration and I have never heard “open borders” mentioned once as a favored strategy nor does the description they give sound to me like open borders.  Please don’t locate one example of one person saying it — even if you could find the words coming out of Liz Warrens mouth it won’t prove that this is a dem thing. 

“Open borders” is a Trump fake news line.  No one wants open borders though some are more open to easier entry than others.  I actually think Dick Durban’s multi-pronged immigration plan with Lyndsay Graham is not only on target, but something most dems would agree with.

I think that a combination of “catch and release”, sanctuary cities, immediate legal challenges to “the wall” and other enforcement actions, and some of the calls to “abolish ICE” amount to de facto open borders.

If you release those caught illegally entering the country, hide them from law enforcement, clothe and feed them, provide them free health care and in some cases free college, and refuse to deport them, is there a substantial difference?


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Re: On what issues do you disagree with your political party of choice?
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since I’m not party affiliated, I don’t have a specific party to disagree with but here’s some of my positions on major issues:
- Gun control: not against gun ownership but definitely against anything that has the capacity for rapid fire or high-volume rounds.  In short, you want a handgun, have a revolver.  A shotgun, breech load only, no magazine.  Assault rifle - non-starter.  Hunting rifle - bolt action only.   No civilian needs anything more than that.  Won’t necessarily stop killings but will drastically cut down on mass killings and the number of victims.   claims something more is needed for self/home defense — too bad.  if you really need something bigger to protect you or your home, you’re screwed anyway because you’re either a really crappy shot that needs a high volume of chances to hit something or you suspect someone will be after you with that type of weaponry which means you’re screwed anyway.   Also, I want a gun registry that has similar data records to motor vehicle registry.   i disagree with both major parties since neither of them is doing anything on this.

- Healthcare:  The country needs a national system period.  As someone with 30+ years in the industry I have some insights into what works and what doesn’t and none of the politicians have proposed something close to working.  We’re already paying for it through Medicare taxes, Medicaid taxes and through employers, self-employed or just by ourselves.  right now, only the people who work are not getting coverage through the government.   this just isn’t right.  for those saying we can’t afford it, they need to realize that the money would come from what’s being paid to insurance companies already - just shifting where the money goes.   The govt would have to control payments to the pharmaceutical companies the way other countries with health coverage already do.  They’d also have to address the over utilization of services used for CYA purposes by providers as well as exclude services that are strictly cosmetic in nature. 
What many people don’t realize with Medicare is that the govt doesn’t administer the program —  it contracts out the administration of processing the claims, customer service, provider networking, etc… to health plans (primarily Blue Cross/Blue Shield plans).  This cuts the cost of the program.   Also Medicare has gaps in coverage that most people address by either purchasing a supplemental coverage from an insurance company (Plan 65 is an example) or by opting into a PPO or HMO version of Medicare run by an insurance company that offers more coverage than standard medicare at a lesser cost.  This is something that can be done but we need to stop adhering to political soundbites saying it’s not.   i disagree with both major parties since neither of them is doing anything on this but at least the Dems are doing something about it.

- Immigration: all for legal immigration but I do have serious concerns that this is where real American jobs are being lost as opposed to the jobs taken by illegal immigrants.  What is totally ignored in this debate is that many good paying jobs in America are being taken by immigrants who’ll do it for less.  That, and having these same types of jobs outsourced overseas because they’re willing to do it for 60% of the cost (or less).  Case in point, my own employer.  I work in IT and in my immediate section there’s 25 people.  of those 25 people, 12 have come from other countries, all but 3 are on work visas.  these are good paying positions that can be done by American citizens that could use good paying jobs.  no college education needed, just some experience in the industry.  This is the form of immigration that really concerns me. 
As for illegal immigration, I’d try to apply common sense to those that are found here.   if they’ve been here for a lengthy time and contribution to society, work with them to get them to citizenship or at least legalized.  if they’re not contributing either due to being new arrivals or collecting government benefits, I’m fine with deportation.   I’m also for holding companies accountable for hiring volumes of illegal immigrants as well.  The chicken companies in Mississippi that were just raided for example obviously turned a blind eye to who they hired and need to be taken to task for that.  i disagree with both major parties since neither of them is doing anything sensible on this.  No one’s for open borders but everyone should not be allowed to stay nor receive govt benefits (Dems) nor should we be having people caged, families separated and deporting everyone regardless of how long they’ve been here or how productive they’ve been (Reps).  Totally disagree with Dems that they should get free healthcare.  There’s a reasonable middle ground - let’s find it.

- Taxes: all for lower taxes with a scaled tax rate that applies a bit more to wealthier people.  The tax bill passed by the Ryan HOR is disgraceful.   Blatantly screwed the average American while saving piles of money for corporations and the rich.  To anyone blinded by a pretty check after it passed --> that tax cut is still in effect for the corporations and rich — did you get another $1000 bonus since then?  No?  Surprised that money continued to stay in their pockets instead of trickling down?  you shouldn’t be.   I want the old deductions brought back.  what they took away cost me personally over a grand in more taxes and had a negative impact on everyone I know that I’ve talked to.  may not have been that way for everyone but I don’t know anyone personally who benefitted from it.  I’ll go with the Dems on this. Not because I like tax increases but because they’re more likely to shift the tax burden off the backs of those making less $.

- Foreign Policy:  I prefer a more traditional approach —> work with our allies and stay strong against our enemies.  Prior to Trump, both parties pretty much followed this thought process.  now, Republicans are lock step with Trump in siding with Russian, North Korea, Saudi Arabia and other countries that have a record of rights abuses for its citizens and outright attacks on the US.  The damage Trump has done in this area is just frightening.  I’ll side with the Dems on this one just because the Reps have not corralled Trump’s recklessness and have shown no inclination to do so.

- Forbidden topic.  Until men are at risk of getting pregnant, they’re opinions don’t matter except in the cases where they’re the father and even then, they don’t have final say because they’re not the one that’s pregnant.  No one has the right to force their views on others in this regard.  period.    Also, strongly against restricting what a doctor can tell a patient regarding this topic.  On the Dems side on this

- Reparations.  Money to individuals - not acceptable.  Some program that may help descendants of slaves get a step up (no interest college loans, better access to grants, better access to job training programs, etc…) I could see. More supportive of the Rep position on this

- College Tuition.  Prefer more be done about reining in the ridiculous cost than providing it for free to everyone.  More supportive of the Rep position on this

- Welfare.  ok with mothers of newborns/very young children not having to work but if the kid(s) in the household are of school age, the recipient either needs to be out jobhunting or working for the govt in terms of giving back to the community that’s supporting them.  also against increasing payments to recipients if they’ve had a child conceived after going on welfare or food stamps.  I’ve known a couple of girls when I was growing up that their goal was to go on welfare like their mothers did and just collect money because they didn’t want to work—infuriated the hell out of me and still does that this mentality continues.  not saying everyone collecting welfare is like this but it’s out there.  support Rep positions on this mostly since I’ve yet to hear a Dem even broach the subject of access/finances/working for people receiving public assistance.

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I'm very pro military....but...i read too many articles about not being able to account for military black buget spending and alike.  Too many times Pentagon shruge their shoulders , when asked WHERE did the money go , what was it used for.  Nobody seems to give a flying bleep. Some how mechanisms have been put in place to " hide ". spending , where the people in charge   oversite officials are not allowed to track the money and see who is getting how much for what specific purpose.

We the tax payers just keep shoveling out the trillions without the accountability we deserve . When elected officals asked questions the Pentagons responses afe mind your own business or you have no need to know . 

I want MORE transparency when it comes to military spending .  The people we elect have a right to keep us informed . 

This money should be accounted for .  Every year and tracked and kept under control.

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Just an observation, and the mods can do with it what they will, but this thread has become as much about what people like/dislike on various issues as it is about what they don't like about their own party (the latter being the thread's intent).
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Was a registered Democrat until I unenrolled in 2016.  This year I have donated $33 to the Libertarian party, $6 to Andrew Yang (plus a $50 MATH hat purchase), and $5 to Kirstin Gillibrand.  I consider myself an independent.

The one issue I disagree with all parties on is taxation.  I prefer taxes to be low, generally, during a person's life.
1) I think specific sales or other taxes should be instituted to fund specific and necessary regulatory agencies. Example: tax on alcohol and drugs to fund the FDA, taxes on capital gains or banks or something to fund the SEC, taxes on dirty energy to fund the EPA, taxes on corporate profit to fund FTC, etc.  They don't have to be exactly those I just mentioned, I have lots of thoughts on particulars that evolve all the time, but that's a loose feeling on my thoughts there.  These tax rates shouldn't have to be that cumbersome to fund these agencies either.
2) I think income tax should be abolished and taxes should largely be assessed based on property.  My reasoning for this follows from #1 above that taxes should be collected to pay for specific things I need the government to provide.  The government does not provide any service for my income.  The 3 levels of government *do* provide a lot for my safety, in terms of protection from foreign government invasions, police, and fire.  These are all protections of one's property, which is why I think that's a more fair tax assessment than income earned.  I think with this, you could probably institute a flat tax rate rather than a progressive tax rate which could ease feelings of class warfare when it comes to taxation.  Unsure about that though.
3) Lastly, I think we should have a very hefty death/estate/inheritance/whatever-you-want-to-call-it tax.  This is where I certainly stray away from the Libertarian party.  I think passing on wealth to our heirs is one of the biggest promoters of socio-economic inequality in our country, particularly as it pertains to race.  I believe that chunk of tax revenue should largely if not all be spent on a high quality public education to give all US citizens something closer to an equal chance at economic prosperity and success.

You make some interesting points on taxes and I tend to agree with most (though I'm not a libertarian at all).

On point (1) I just thought I'd point out that if you look at. how our taxes are actually spent, a lot of it is, actually applied to targeted mandatory programs kind of in the way you state.  I.E., things like social security, medicare - those have specific taxes applied to those specific programs.    That is also true of many mandatory programs paid out of the general budget.  They may not have specific items called out on your pay stub, but they have specific mandated revenue charges.  Also a lot of government services are paid for via direct excise taxes and fees (license plates, gas taxes, park fees, etc.) that are directly targeted to the service.   Where things are up for 'debate/discussion/arguing' is the "discretionary spending".  This is the part of the budget that is not already charged by existing laws imposing mandatory costs.  This is the part of the budget that the congress allocates each time per the political winds.

The interesting thing is that the largest portion of the discretionary budget is spent on defense -- some 52% in the current budget.   Of the non-defense portions, no segment has a larger than 7% slice (transportation and education each get that much).   The 3rd largest slice is veterans benefits at 6% and then a whole host of programs with 5% or less.


On (2), I won't say I think they should completely abolish the income tax.   The government does provide services that _enable_ us to generate income and be safe while doing so.   A lot of government functions such as standards specifications, oversight and regulation are necessary for huge segments of the economy to function.  So some cost needs to be shared there relative to income.   That said, I totally agree with you that wealth itself is not properly taxed.   Most of the middle class has a significant share if not the majority of their wealth in the form of real estate (their house) and they typically pay an annual tax of 4-8% on that.   Meanwhile, the extreme wealthy tend to have most of their wealth in other forms (stocks, commodities) that, until they are sold to realize capital gains, do not get taxed.   The wealthy benefit far more from the government services that support and protect the value of their wealth so should be paying a larger share for that benefit.

On (3) I concur.   I've always found it interesting how the traditional GOP party positions have long been to push for not only lower income taxes, but also the complete elimination of taxes on dividends, taxes on capital gains and estate taxes.   If you remove those last three taxes, then you have created a landed gentry where the wealthy who own things never have to pay taxes.      Amazingly, by hijacking other issues such as the forbidden topic and our countries obsession with guns, they have managed to get a lot of folks to vote for them who would most definitely NOT benefit from those goals.
NBA Officiating - Corrupt?  Incompetent?  Which is worse?  Does it matter?  It sucks.

 

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