Putting in an income threshold would hurt those that can't pay for college themselves but also look like they make too much on paper to get help.
Agreed, and it also means the people who pay the most taxes toward this are locked out from it. I don't support this. It should be a public benefit, just like public K-12 schooling is now.
Here's what you do if you want to see the cost of college come down: Limit the number of loans given and the amount of those loans. Make the customers(students) treat the schools like they would with any other purchase and put some thought into it. The schools will then have to.....gasp...compete with each other and prices will come down.
Providing a free public alternative will do exactly that.
Schools are competing with each other right now, that's a huge part of why costs are skyrocketing. You have to have something to sell as uniquely or especially valuable about what you're providing compared to the competition, and fact is prospective students are much more responsive to tangible facilities and programs than, say a 10% lower tuition. It also lets administrators justify their positions by pointing to all the exciting new initiatives they're developing (while often tossing aside the last person's exciting new initiatives) and bigger fundraising numbers as well.
Would anyone who works a hard job feel good that they're paying higher taxes so some dude can go get a degree that will not make the student any money after they graduate?
The hardest jobs are usually the least likely to require a college education and the ones that pay the least, and presumably the ones that affordable college would most enable people to escape. So I'm not sure what this is about.
It's sad we live in a day where everyone feels they're entitled to free everything. No need to better yourself because all the basics are taken care of.
I think it gives away the game a bit to characterize wanting to spend years attaining an advanced education as having "no need to better yourself".
"Would anyone who works a hard job feel good that they're paying higher taxes so some dude can go get a degree that will not make the student any money after they graduate? "
What I meant by this is just imagine you're working a very physical or mentally taxing job and you make decent money. You're paying a higher tax rate due to your income that you work very hard for. Now a chunk of thatmaney you earned is being used to pay some school to hand out a degree that won't help the student out in the real world. Think the reaction many have to those cheating the welfare system. I'd imagine it would generate some angst is all.
How big is that chunk of taxes you are paying for expanding financial aide for college actually going to be? Any idea?
Is it going to be more or less than what you pay for
Other government public entitlements?
Widespread fraud in the federal budget?
My guess is the taxes allocated out of that person's taxes for an expansion of free college would be less than a couple bucks a year, if taxes would be even needed to do it.
It's my opinion that if the federal government got real about the federal budget they could streamline it, eliminate or reduce fraud and pork, and move some money around between departments, so that stuff like infrastructure spending, free college or at the very least massively expanded financial aide, and excellent healthcare insurance for all under a one payor system is viable without taxes.
Yeah, a pipedream, I know.