YABU being waived

[Fafnir]

Also its a joke among NBA writers that every team has a story about how they were "this close" to trading up to take Giannis, but for "XYZ"... 

[rondofan1255]

https://twitter.com/dangercart/status/1149343418931449856?s=09
Thread from dangercart. Suggests one of two things from the sequencing:

Because we waived Yab before signing Edwards, we won't have the cap space unless we stretch Yab. So either a trade is coming before we sign people or Yab will be stretched to make room for Edwards and maybe another signing.

Interesting

Apparently Stretched according to several writers online

[jambr380]

I assume he was stretched so that Poirier could be signed for more. I am not crazy about this - dead money on the books for several years is annoying - so hopefully Vincent can prove himself to be worth the extra money.

[RockinRyA]

Funny thing about the Noguiera pick by Dallas. That was the pick Danny traded out of to grab Olynyk higher in the draft. I remember that draft night and a lot of people hated that pick, me included.

But funny enough, people get crazy angry with Ainge for not picking Giannis, but no one was saying that on this site that night. There was a bunch of anger over trading up just to get Olynyk, but little to no consternation about not selecting The Greek Freak. Nope, because that same night, Ainge traded KG and Pierce to the Nets and everyone was screaming about what a bad trade that was. All the hate over Ainge passing on Giannis is just Monday Morning Quarterbacking. That night, almost no one was mentioning anything about not grabbing The Freak. Everyone was too busy talking the big trade of two Celtic legends to the Nets.

no one complained about not picking Giannis because all the experts here said Giannis could not replicate his game (and he did have game) in the NBA. So much for that.

That wasn't just here, there were many so called experts questioning whether Giannis could be a good NBA player. Turns out they were wrong. But so what, as has been said many times the draft is a crap shoot. No one knew Giannis would be this good, even Milwaukee didn't know, they were rolling the dice. It worked for them, that's the nature of the draft.

No revisionist history please. Bottom line is with Giannis thise who were paid to know should have known. Giannis should not be a surprise, he was discovered and scouted. The problem is bias. The experts looked down at the league he played in, they over analyzed the situation and passed on him. We saw the video of his play on celticcsblog, Danny scouted him peesonally but just could not pull the trigger. Had Giannis played NCAA div 1 the same way he played in that league he would have been an early lottery pic. The league got caught with inherent bias.

you seem to be saying that giving weight to the level of competition is a form of bias. many people do not see it that way, including a number of nba GMs. scouting talent is not a science and not always a sure thing. everyone here has gone "all in" for a player who has turned out to be poor.

i dont think it is "inherent bias" (please define how you are defining this since it seems odd in this context) as much as using well considered, well used criteria as they usually do. sometimes, given the nature of young talent, it works. some times it doesnt.

the bias here is that because he was playing in a foreign league his demonstrated skills could not be replicated in the USA.

No. Even in his foreign league he was nowhere this good. Even if he replicated what he showed there, he might just be a borderline all-star. Didn't help that he grew 2-3 inches in his rookie deal as well. I wanted Danny to pick Giannis, but even I didn't know he would be arguably top 5 good. I was sure he would be an all-star, but MVP candidate, no.

[ozgod]

So...do we want him back? 

He averaged 14ppg over the Olympics...19.5ppg and 5rpg in the knockout stage once he was elevated to the starting lineup.

Maybe he would take a vet min for the last roster spot. Surely after 5 years we can forgive and forget with the Dancing Bear 

[tonydelk]

Always good to see Yabu play.  I will say he looked good at times.  He seems like he'd be able to be an end of bench player for an NBA team.  You just don't know if he's a great European player with FIBA rules or if he'd be able to hang in the NBA.  Either way I'd like to see him back on an NBA team to see what he can do now.

[Celtics2021]

If Yabu did come back to the Cs, it could make a Celtics-Mavs finals rematch that much spicier.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/36306971/guerschon-yabusele-dante-exum-center-euroleague-brawl

[moiso]

He?s in much better shape and more explosive nowadays.  He seemed fat without much lift when we had him. 

[mobilija]

How did his defense look?

His offense seems rotation worthy in that highly coveted big wing position. Definitely would add value on most teams as part of the bigs platoon.

[droopdog7]

Yabu threads everywhere I see.  If he were good enough to make contributions in the nba he'd be there already.

I look at it this way. All these dudes can play. Like, hundreds if not thousands of guys can really really play. Put most of them in a good position and they will shine.

That's a far cry from deserving that time or role in the nba.

[SCeltic34]

If Yabu did come back to the Cs, it could make a Celtics-Mavs finals rematch that much spicier.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/36306971/guerschon-yabusele-dante-exum-center-euroleague-brawl

I was about to say, he'd make a good enforcer as a 15th man.  That body slam was brutal.

[ozgod]

He says he wants to come back. (To the NBA that is, not necessarily the Cs.)



Full article at https://www.cbssports.com/olympics/news/olympic-star-guerschon-yabusele-seeking-nba-return-reportedly-has-2-5-million-buyout-in-real-madrid-contract/

[Vermont Green]

Would the cost of the buyout cost against the cap?  Is there a way around that?  If all we can offer is a min contract, that would not even cover the buyout. 

[SparzWizard]

Yabusele is dubbed as the French Ben Wallace.

Bring him back I wouldn't mind.

[SparzWizard]

If Yabu did come back to the Cs, it could make a Celtics-Mavs finals rematch that much spicier.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/36306971/guerschon-yabusele-dante-exum-center-euroleague-brawl

I was about to say, he'd make a good enforcer as a 15th man.  That body slam was brutal.

I have to say, the officiating in the Olympics was superb. Didn't fall for any foul-baiting.

That said, I'm sure the NBA refs will call Yabusele's poster on LeBron an offensive foul, and LeBron goes to the free-throw line for it lolol. Can't touch their beloved King like that.