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Re: What trade do you think Danny is working on?
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2019, 06:48:20 PM »

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Bradley Beal hopefully... 8)

I am not as high on Bradley Beal.
But just for kicks; What would you give up for him?
Smart + brown + yabu + Memphis pick would be what I would give up without getting into a bidding war

Re: What trade do you think Danny is working on?
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2019, 06:51:42 PM »

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Bradley Beal hopefully... 8)

I am not as high on Bradley Beal.
But just for kicks; What would you give up for him?
Smart + brown + yabu + Memphis pick would be what I would give up without getting into a bidding war

I donít think Beal is good enough to warrant such a generous return..thatís even more than what the Clips gave up for George.
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Re: What trade do you think Danny is working on?
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2019, 07:01:23 PM »

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That does seem strange.  Let me offer this:

Towns and Wiggins for Jaylen Brown, Gordon Hayward, Robert Williams, Romeo Langford, Carson Edwards, and Yabusele.

We may need to include more salary to get that to work. Theis? Other?

I'll get killed for that, but what the heck....

Salaries work!  Not what Iíd do, but I like the creativity!

I honestly canít think of what it would be ó it would need to be something that wouldnít be there in 30 days or wouldnít work if the draftee(s)í salary was included.  Getting involved in a Miami-OKC or Houston-OKC deal perhaps?

OKC sends Westbrook, receives Jaylen, Eric Gordon, and a Cís draftee.
Houston sends Capela, Gordon, one of their young guys making the minimum, receives Westbrook and Rob Williams.
Celtics send Jaylen, Williams, and a draftee, receives Capela, Houston minimum salary prospect.

Iím not a fan, as Iíve been advocating for Jaylen, but it seems like the type of trade OKC and Houston would both do.

Re: What trade do you think Danny is working on?
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2019, 07:08:11 PM »

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I don't think there's anything going on.  If Danny had any reasonable expectation of moving our draft picks, I think they'd be held out of summer league.

At some point Yabu needs to get his walking papers, though.  We'll probably keep him until mid-January at least, but the guy doesn't deserve a roster spot.

I donít think thatís accurate.  I doubt the draftee would be the centerpiece of a deal, so an injury would not scuttle a deal or another draftee would be put in his place if it were such a problem.

I donít think a deal is likely, mind you, but itís quite odd that the Cís havenít signed any of their picks.  Itís also holding up Theis and Kanter signing their deals, because presumably theyíll use cap room to give Edwards a little more than the rookie minimum in year 1.  Thereís enough potentially brewing for agents to be patient and not demand to sign yet.

Re: What trade do you think Danny is working on?
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2019, 07:10:57 PM »

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Re: What trade do you think Danny is working on?
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2019, 07:13:52 PM »

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I don't think there's anything going on.  If Danny had any reasonable expectation of moving our draft picks, I think they'd be held out of summer league.

At some point Yabu needs to get his walking papers, though.  We'll probably keep him until mid-January at least, but the guy doesn't deserve a roster spot.

I donít think thatís accurate.  I doubt the draftee would be the centerpiece of a deal, so an injury would not scuttle a deal or another draftee would be put in his place if it were such a problem.

I donít think a deal is likely, mind you, but itís quite odd that the Cís havenít signed any of their picks.  Itís also holding up Theis and Kanter signing their deals, because presumably theyíll use cap room to give Edwards a little more than the rookie minimum in year 1.  Thereís enough potentially brewing for agents to be patient and not demand to sign yet.

Keith Smith had a tweet 4 hrs ago, he said he looked into it and that nothing was happening. They are expected to sign soon.

Re: What trade do you think Danny is working on?
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2019, 07:24:20 PM »

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I don't think there's anything going on.  If Danny had any reasonable expectation of moving our draft picks, I think they'd be held out of summer league.

At some point Yabu needs to get his walking papers, though.  We'll probably keep him until mid-January at least, but the guy doesn't deserve a roster spot.

I donít think thatís accurate.  I doubt the draftee would be the centerpiece of a deal, so an injury would not scuttle a deal or another draftee would be put in his place if it were such a problem.

I donít think a deal is likely, mind you, but itís quite odd that the Cís havenít signed any of their picks.  Itís also holding up Theis and Kanter signing their deals, because presumably theyíll use cap room to give Edwards a little more than the rookie minimum in year 1.  Thereís enough potentially brewing for agents to be patient and not demand to sign yet.

Keith Smith had a tweet 4 hrs ago, he said he looked into it and that nothing was happening. They are expected to sign soon.

So I guess there is a trade brewing, then.

Re: What trade do you think Danny is working on?
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2019, 07:56:05 PM »

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I don't think there's anything going on.  If Danny had any reasonable expectation of moving our draft picks, I think they'd be held out of summer league.

At some point Yabu needs to get his walking papers, though.  We'll probably keep him until mid-January at least, but the guy doesn't deserve a roster spot.

I donít think thatís accurate.  I doubt the draftee would be the centerpiece of a deal, so an injury would not scuttle a deal or another draftee would be put in his place if it were such a problem.

I donít think a deal is likely, mind you, but itís quite odd that the Cís havenít signed any of their picks.  Itís also holding up Theis and Kanter signing their deals, because presumably theyíll use cap room to give Edwards a little more than the rookie minimum in year 1.  Thereís enough potentially brewing for agents to be patient and not demand to sign yet.

Keith Smith had a tweet 4 hrs ago, he said he looked into it and that nothing was happening. They are expected to sign soon.

So I guess there is a trade brewing, then.
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Re: What trade do you think Danny is working on?
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2019, 07:56:54 PM »

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That does seem strange.  Let me offer this:

Towns and Wiggins for Jaylen Brown, Gordon Hayward, Robert Williams, Romeo Langford, Carson Edwards, and Yabusele.

We may need to include more salary to get that to work. Theis? Other?

I'll get killed for that, but what the heck....

I agree that almost any trade for Town that may occur because of a deteriorating competitive situation in Minnesota will involve taking on the Wiggins albatross contract. I'm not sure that they would be interested in Hayward but that tempting platter of young players other than Yabusele is interesting and it's possible that Hayward might opt out of his final year. Maybe?

Re: What trade do you think Danny is working on?
« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2019, 07:58:25 PM »

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I don't think there's anything going on.  If Danny had any reasonable expectation of moving our draft picks, I think they'd be held out of summer league.

At some point Yabu needs to get his walking papers, though.  We'll probably keep him until mid-January at least, but the guy doesn't deserve a roster spot.

Not that I think anything is happening, but our highest (and highest paid) draft pick is not playing in summer league. I highly doubt the Cs give up Grant or Carsen just based on contract value. And I can't imagine Tremont Waters is make or break in any deal.

Re: What trade do you think Danny is working on?
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2019, 08:14:44 PM »

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I don't think there's anything going on.  If Danny had any reasonable expectation of moving our draft picks, I think they'd be held out of summer league.

At some point Yabu needs to get his walking papers, though.  We'll probably keep him until mid-January at least, but the guy doesn't deserve a roster spot.

I donít think thatís accurate.  I doubt the draftee would be the centerpiece of a deal, so an injury would not scuttle a deal or another draftee would be put in his place if it were such a problem.

I donít think a deal is likely, mind you, but itís quite odd that the Cís havenít signed any of their picks.  Itís also holding up Theis and Kanter signing their deals, because presumably theyíll use cap room to give Edwards a little more than the rookie minimum in year 1.  Thereís enough potentially brewing for agents to be patient and not demand to sign yet.

I don't think players are generally that interchangeable.  Teams usually make trades because they like individual players, although I suppose the "pick one" approach has happened at least once before (Kedrick Brown vs. Joe Johnson to Phoenix).

My guess is that the team is just negotiating Edwards' contract, and that they'll do a press conference with the top three rookies all at once.  To that point:

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Hearing that the Celtics have been having contract discussions with second-round pick Carsen Edwards, looking at a few different concepts related to guarantees etc.
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Re: What trade do you think Danny is working on?
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2019, 08:23:52 PM »

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I don't see any trade happening.  just an unusually slow signing of players.  at most, maybe a deal of Yabu and Waters for a cheap vet on an expiring deal that the other team would like to dump

Re: What trade do you think Danny is working on?
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2019, 08:54:24 PM »

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I don't think there's anything going on.  If Danny had any reasonable expectation of moving our draft picks, I think they'd be held out of summer league.

At some point Yabu needs to get his walking papers, though.  We'll probably keep him until mid-January at least, but the guy doesn't deserve a roster spot.

I donít think thatís accurate.  I doubt the draftee would be the centerpiece of a deal, so an injury would not scuttle a deal or another draftee would be put in his place if it were such a problem.

I donít think a deal is likely, mind you, but itís quite odd that the Cís havenít signed any of their picks.  Itís also holding up Theis and Kanter signing their deals, because presumably theyíll use cap room to give Edwards a little more than the rookie minimum in year 1.  Thereís enough potentially brewing for agents to be patient and not demand to sign yet.

I don't think players are generally that interchangeable.  Teams usually make trades because they like individual players, although I suppose the "pick one" approach has happened at least once before (Kedrick Brown vs. Joe Johnson to Phoenix).

My guess is that the team is just negotiating Edwards' contract, and that they'll do a press conference with the top three rookies all at once.  To that point:

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Adam Himmelsbach
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6h6 hours ago

Hearing that the Celtics have been having contract discussions with second-round pick Carsen Edwards, looking at a few different concepts related to guarantees etc.

Even so, that would still be a departure from 2017, when Tatum and Zizic signed July 1st, and Ojeleye signed his deal on July 18th.  Edwards would hold up the signing of Theis and Kanter for cap reasons, but Langford and Williams have a cap hold which will equal their salary.

Again, itís likely there is no deal, and this thread was meant to be more entertaining (come up with your crazy Towns-Wiggins trade ideas) than some have taken it, but the most plausible reason for Langford and Williams to have not signed is because there is some possibility that Ainge is keeping open.

Re: What trade do you think Danny is working on?
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2019, 09:02:41 PM »

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I thinks its more apt to have a trade once recemtly signed players have been here for long enough to be able to be traded. 90 days I believe?

Then you have kanter, yabu, langford, theis as possible trade pieces.

All at over 3 mill per players. Some closer to 5 million and with 3 potential first round picks next season there is plenty of ability to snag a player somewhere.

Re: What trade do you think Danny is working on?
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2019, 03:22:15 AM »

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I thinks its more apt to have a trade once recemtly signed players have been here for long enough to be able to be traded. 90 days I believe?

Then you have kanter, yabu, langford, theis as possible trade pieces.

All at over 3 mill per players. Some closer to 5 million and with 3 potential first round picks next season there is plenty of ability to snag a player somewhere.
After signing for the Celtics, Kanter and Theis won't be able to be traded til Decmber/January.

The roster is quite balanced at the moment, there are screaming gaps in one place over another. That makes me think that it wouldn't be a sideways move he's looking at. Around the league there are a few high level players closer to becoming available like Beal and Towns. But they aren't quite there yet.

If I had to guess I think it'd be a big trade involving the Hayward contract, but as I want to keep him I'm gonna call the chances low  ;D

 

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