Assuming no cap space, what big can trading Brown fetch us?

[ETNCeltics]

Sabonis straight up would be interesting.  Value is close IMHO.

Danny wouldn’t trade Brown for Leonard, why would he trade him for Sabonis?  How is it fair value?  I don’t follow Indy much so I’m asking in all honesty.

The biggest difference is that Sabonis is under team control via RFA for another 3 years same as Jaylen.

I do not think that is a trade I would do however, I like Jaylen's talent too much and you need more than 2 wings.

Sabonis averaged 14/9/3 in just under 25 minutes a game while having a TS% of 63.  He has taken a big jump all 3 of his seasons and that includes improved defensive efficiency.  He is also a big guy which is far more a position of need. 

I'd do Brown for Sabonis straight up and wouldn't give it a second thought.

best answer yet. if the celtics need to throw in a bit more (a just drafted kid or a draft choice) that is okay too.

Just imo, but if I'm trading Brown for Sabonis, I need Indy to throw some more in, not Boston.

I believe Brown's ceiling is much higher than Sabonis'. No way I'd do that trade.

[footey]

I'd trade Brown for Turner. Not sure for Sabonis.

[johnnygreen]

What about Jusuf Nurkic? The salaries don't match up, so you may have to include Yabu too.

[Fafnir]

What about Jusuf Nurkic? The salaries don't match up, so you may have to include Yabu too.

He just broke his leg badly and you don't know if he'll be healthy so no.

[gpap]

IMO, I think Brown for Sabonis is a very fair deal for both clubs.

[footey]

With glut of FA centers, maybe we should just buy one with the $4.8 mm exception. Won't be at the level of Sabonis, but keeping Brown a priority in my book. Not just because I really like him, but because he is a very attractive asset in a future trade if another disgruntled player (Beal, Towns) emerges by Feb trade deadline.

If we could swing Turner, I'd do the deal, however. 

[greenrunsdeep41]

Yall be crazy if you think Sabonis is as valuable to a team as Jaylen Brown. They are not in the same stratosphere. There are matchups that you simply cannot play Sabonis in because his defense is suspect at best, sure he tries and is a high character guy whom I honestly think is a good basketball player, but he cant hold a candle to Browns overall game, character, potential, or value.

The grass is always freakin greener over here in Celtics land. Ive been having a really hard time reading this rag of a blog for the past few weeks, thats saying a lot, I love wasting time here. But seriously guys, Sabonis? Give me a break.

[playdream]

Yall be crazy if you think Sabonis is as valuable to a team as Jaylen Brown. They are not in the same stratosphere. There are matchups that you simply cannot play Sabonis in because his defense is suspect at best, sure he tries and is a high character guy whom I honestly think is a good basketball player, but he cant hold a candle to Browns overall game, character, potential, or value.

The grass is always freakin greener over here in Celtics land. Ive been having a really hard time reading this rag of a blog for the past few weeks, thats saying a lot, I love wasting time here. But seriously guys, Sabonis? Give me a break.

You can't be serious

[johnnygreen]

What about Jusuf Nurkic? The salaries don't match up, so you may have to include Yabu too.

He just broke his leg badly and you don't know if he'll be healthy so no.

I know he was injured, but wasn't sure as to the severity of the leg injury.

[LilRip]

Sabonis straight up would be interesting.  Value is close IMHO.

Danny wouldn’t trade Brown for Leonard, why would he trade him for Sabonis?  How is it fair value?  I don’t follow Indy much so I’m asking in all honesty.

The biggest difference is that Sabonis is under team control via RFA for another 3 years same as Jaylen.

I do not think that is a trade I would do however, I like Jaylen's talent too much and you need more than 2 wings.

Sabonis averaged 14/9/3 in just under 25 minutes a game while having a TS% of 63.  He has taken a big jump all 3 of his seasons and that includes improved defensive efficiency.  He is also a big guy which is far more a position of need. 

I'd do Brown for Sabonis straight up and wouldn't give it a second thought.

^this

Or how about that kid from Atlanta?

please, be more vague. i can almost guess whom you are talking about given the info above.

Sorry I was in a rush when typing. I meant John Collins.

[gouki88]

Sabonis straight up would be interesting.  Value is close IMHO.

Danny wouldn’t trade Brown for Leonard, why would he trade him for Sabonis?  How is it fair value?  I don’t follow Indy much so I’m asking in all honesty.

The biggest difference is that Sabonis is under team control via RFA for another 3 years same as Jaylen.

I do not think that is a trade I would do however, I like Jaylen's talent too much and you need more than 2 wings.

Sabonis averaged 14/9/3 in just under 25 minutes a game while having a TS% of 63.  He has taken a big jump all 3 of his seasons and that includes improved defensive efficiency.  He is also a big guy which is far more a position of need. 

I'd do Brown for Sabonis straight up and wouldn't give it a second thought.

^this

Or how about that kid from Atlanta?

please, be more vague. i can almost guess whom you are talking about given the info above.

Sorry I was in a rush when typing. I meant John Collins.

Collins would be amazing for us to get, but I can't see any way Atlanta makes him available considering how they drafted

[Moranis]

Sabonis straight up would be interesting.  Value is close IMHO.

Danny wouldn’t trade Brown for Leonard, why would he trade him for Sabonis?  How is it fair value?  I don’t follow Indy much so I’m asking in all honesty.

The biggest difference is that Sabonis is under team control via RFA for another 3 years same as Jaylen.

I do not think that is a trade I would do however, I like Jaylen's talent too much and you need more than 2 wings.

Sabonis averaged 14/9/3 in just under 25 minutes a game while having a TS% of 63.  He has taken a big jump all 3 of his seasons and that includes improved defensive efficiency.  He is also a big guy which is far more a position of need. 

I'd do Brown for Sabonis straight up and wouldn't give it a second thought.

best answer yet. if the celtics need to throw in a bit more (a just drafted kid or a draft choice) that is okay too.

Just imo, but if I'm trading Brown for Sabonis, I need Indy to throw some more in, not Boston.

I believe Brown's ceiling is much higher than Sabonis'. No way I'd do that trade.

They both seem likely to top out with an all star or game or 2.  Brown is a better defender, but Sabonis isn't terrible and Brown isn't a world beater.  In their best cases I think Brown has a Paul Pierce like career, while Sabonis has a Chris Webber like career (again best cases).  Those are very similar players, however, I'd always take the big man as those are just harder to find (and especially on the C's with its prosperity on the wing). 

[greenrunsdeep41]

Yall be crazy if you think Sabonis is as valuable to a team as Jaylen Brown. They are not in the same stratosphere. There are matchups that you simply cannot play Sabonis in because his defense is suspect at best, sure he tries and is a high character guy whom I honestly think is a good basketball player, but he cant hold a candle to Browns overall game, character, potential, or value.

The grass is always freakin greener over here in Celtics land. Ive been having a really hard time reading this rag of a blog for the past few weeks, thats saying a lot, I love wasting time here. But seriously guys, Sabonis? Give me a break.

You can't be serious

https://theundefeated.com/features/jaylen-brown-the-2016-nba-drafts-renaissance-man/

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-celtics/2019/02/18/jaylen-brown-elected-vice-president-of-nbpa

https://college.harvard.edu/one-one-jaylen-brown-athlete-and-intellectual

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2018/3/2/jaylen-brown-harvard-ed-2018/

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/celtics/jaylen-brown-offers-sacrifice-celtics-prioritize-team-over-individuals

For starters.

Lets see any evidence to the contrary that is not some subjective rant that cannot be substantiated. Any evidence to the contrary is hearsay.

[jay]

With glut of FA centers, maybe we should just buy one with the $4.8 mm exception. Won't be at the level of Sabonis, but keeping Brown a priority in my book. Not just because I really like him, but because he is a very attractive asset in a future trade if another disgruntled player (Beal, Towns) emerges by Feb trade deadline.

If we could swing Turner, I'd do the deal, however.

Is it possible to keep Theis and get a decent center with the room exception? Who are guys that might sign for 4.4 million? Noah Vonleh or Thomas Bryant?

Walker  Smart   Edwards
Hayward  (Smart) Langford
Brown  Ojeleye
Tatum  Williams
(Bryant or Vonleh)  Theis  TimeLord


Attach a draft pick to Yabusele to move him?  Or keep him as a 3rd string PF as insurance?

[Silky]

With glut of FA centers, maybe we should just buy one with the $4.8 mm exception. Won't be at the level of Sabonis, but keeping Brown a priority in my book. Not just because I really like him, but because he is a very attractive asset in a future trade if another disgruntled player (Beal, Towns) emerges by Feb trade deadline.

If we could swing Turner, I'd do the deal, however.

Is it possible to keep Theis and get a decent center with the room exception? Who are guys that might sign for 4.4 million? Noah Vonleh or Thomas Bryant?

Walker  Smart   Edwards
Hayward  (Smart) Langford
Brown  Ojeleye
Tatum  Williams
(Bryant or Vonleh)  Theis  TimeLord


Attach a draft pick to Yabusele to move him?  Or keep him as a 3rd string PF as insurance?

Bryant will take more than the room mle