So Apparently, Baynes Might Play With The Suns & Not Get Bought Out. Umm DANNY!?

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

DA trades IT4 and you'd swear he has only traded that way in the past, that one trade that hurt your feelings wipes away every other trade DA has done. Forget the fact that DA always trades guys to good situations (LBJ was king of the east so even the IT4 trade), he will trade you but he has never put any of those guys in bad situations (rondos ego aside)! No way in hell does Danny's history suggest that he would intentionally screw Baynes, in fact, it shows the exact opposite! Name one trade where DA has sent a player to a bad place intentionally, I'll wait... rigggght, it just doesn't happen. I'm sure there is an understanding that Baynes will be bought out, even if it means Suns will wait til later in the season (if Bam wants it). It just isn't how DA operates and it seems like Phx operates above board on this situations because they have released a few people during "hop on a contender time" multiple times over the last few seasons!

Sounds like if it isn't hurt feelings over the IT4 trade, it's anger over the offseason because what people are pushing just doesn't match KNOWN history!!

[Surferdad]

Baynes opted into his deal believing he could be on a contender and have a role on this team. Obviously things changed after that, and I'm sure there was mutual agreement that Baynes could get traded later since it didn't look like we'd be a true title threat ourselves, and he preferred it to be with a contender.

And yet, they essentially salary dump him to the Suns??

Yikes. That just adds another dimension to the idea that Ainge is cold-blooded and that future FA's will become even more wary of coming to Boston. I think if Baynes opted-out, he could have gotten slightly more money elsehwere, even on a contending team.

According to a handful of local Suns reporters/sources, it doesn't look like Baynes will get bought out and he'll have a role on that Suns team. This goes against what Keith Smith had tweeted last night.

We may have 35M+ in cap space but this latest trade kind of makes recruiting a bit tougher IMO.

I like what Ainge did. Baynes didn't get the job done last year and was hurt most of the year. We need a massive upgrade at center and Ainge knows it. I don't think any free agent will be offended that Aaron Baynes got dealt to Phoenix for cap relief. Teams do this all the time.

Thanks for reminding me that he was out a lot of games due to injuries.

I guess it's what he gets then. If you can't stay healthy and produce sufficiently here in Boston then you should just go to the Suns.

I agree. This is a "what have you done for me lately" world. Baynes wasn't good last year- time to move on.

Really?  I distinctly recall that when he came back, the C's went on a 9-game winning streak after playing 500 ball when he was out.

The draft picks never mattered much to me.  I watched the draft to hear about a fireworks trade, but the fuse was dead.

[green_bballers13]

Baynes opted into his deal believing he could be on a contender and have a role on this team. Obviously things changed after that, and I'm sure there was mutual agreement that Baynes could get traded later since it didn't look like we'd be a true title threat ourselves, and he preferred it to be with a contender.

And yet, they essentially salary dump him to the Suns??

Yikes. That just adds another dimension to the idea that Ainge is cold-blooded and that future FA's will become even more wary of coming to Boston. I think if Baynes opted-out, he could have gotten slightly more money elsehwere, even on a contending team.

According to a handful of local Suns reporters/sources, it doesn't look like Baynes will get bought out and he'll have a role on that Suns team. This goes against what Keith Smith had tweeted last night.

We may have 35M+ in cap space but this latest trade kind of makes recruiting a bit tougher IMO.

I like what Ainge did. Baynes didn't get the job done last year and was hurt most of the year. We need a massive upgrade at center and Ainge knows it. I don't think any free agent will be offended that Aaron Baynes got dealt to Phoenix for cap relief. Teams do this all the time.

Thanks for reminding me that he was out a lot of games due to injuries.

I guess it's what he gets then. If you can't stay healthy and produce sufficiently here in Boston then you should just go to the Suns.

I agree. This is a "what have you done for me lately" world. Baynes wasn't good last year- time to move on.

Really?  I distinctly recall that when he came back, the C's went on a 9-game winning streak after playing 500 ball when he was out.

The draft picks never mattered much to me.  I watched the draft to hear about a fireworks trade, but the fuse was dead.

I'm not sure.

If you asked the fanbase "was Baynes very good last year", I'd be surprised to get many affirmatives.

[tonydelk]

What did you think Phoenix would say?  They want to try to grab an asset for him 1st.  I can see him being bought out but if they can grab a 2nd, get salary relieve or a young player they will do so before they just give him free money.  No sense of cutting him now.  It also may motivate him to take less in a buyout if Baynes thinks he is going to be kept.  Business decision for now unless Baynes said hey the weather in Phoenix is nice.  Keep me around for awhile.

[Monkhouse]

Baynes opted into his deal believing he could be on a contender and have a role on this team. Obviously things changed after that, and I'm sure there was mutual agreement that Baynes could get traded later since it didn't look like we'd be a true title threat ourselves, and he preferred it to be with a contender.

And yet, they essentially salary dump him to the Suns??

Yikes. That just adds another dimension to the idea that Ainge is cold-blooded and that future FA's will become even more wary of coming to Boston. I think if Baynes opted-out, he could have gotten slightly more money elsehwere, even on a contending team.

According to a handful of local Suns reporters/sources, it doesn't look like Baynes will get bought out and he'll have a role on that Suns team. This goes against what Keith Smith had tweeted last night.

We may have 35M+ in cap space but this latest trade kind of makes recruiting a bit tougher IMO.

Sounds like you're just getting upset for nothing lol.

He's getting bought out.

[mctyson]

Baynes opted into his deal believing he could be on a contender and have a role on this team. Obviously things changed after that, and I'm sure there was mutual agreement that Baynes could get traded later since it didn't look like we'd be a true title threat ourselves, and he preferred it to be with a contender.

And yet, they essentially salary dump him to the Suns??

Yikes. That just adds another dimension to the idea that Ainge is cold-blooded and that future FA's will become even more wary of coming to Boston. I think if Baynes opted-out, he could have gotten slightly more money elsehwere, even on a contending team.

According to a handful of local Suns reporters/sources, it doesn't look like Baynes will get bought out and he'll have a role on that Suns team. This goes against what Keith Smith had tweeted last night.

We may have 35M+ in cap space but this latest trade kind of makes recruiting a bit tougher IMO.

First of all, Baynes was the one who opted-in, not the Celtics, and so to say that the Celtics had an obligation not to trade him because of this is wrong.

Every player in the NBA who is on the last year of his deal knows that he is trade bait.  Otherwise you risk losing that player for nothing.

Next, Baynes had to know that he was tradable following the Horford news.  Baynes is a great backup center on a veteran playoff team.  That is not the Celtics right now.

And Danny made the absolute right call to free up cap space and get a future pick while doing it.

[bellerephon]

Baynes opted into his deal believing he could be on a contender and have a role on this team. Obviously things changed after that, and I'm sure there was mutual agreement that Baynes could get traded later since it didn't look like we'd be a true title threat ourselves, and he preferred it to be with a contender.

And yet, they essentially salary dump him to the Suns??

Yikes. That just adds another dimension to the idea that Ainge is cold-blooded and that future FA's will become even more wary of coming to Boston. I think if Baynes opted-out, he could have gotten slightly more money elsehwere, even on a contending team.

According to a handful of local Suns reporters/sources, it doesn't look like Baynes will get bought out and he'll have a role on that Suns team. This goes against what Keith Smith had tweeted last night.

We may have 35M+ in cap space but this latest trade kind of makes recruiting a bit tougher IMO.

Sounds like you're just getting upset for nothing lol.

He's getting bought out.

There is also a report from Kevin Smith of Yahoo that Baynes is okay with the idea of being traded. The idea that Baynes has somehow been betrayed is just baseless speculation.

[Fafnir]

Since when does Ainge give assurances to players he will not trade them?

Ray Allen, Rondo, Paul Pierce got no such assurances. Only KG did, in no trade clause form.

[nickagneta]

How can any of us assume that Ainge, if he gave assurances to not trade Baynes if he opted in, went back on his word and that Baynes was not consulted if he was okay with a trade to Phoenix? Baynes was probably only a vet minimum on the open market so has a much better salary this year by opting in. Now he has a chance to make even more money if he gets bought out at some point and signs elsewhere to end the season. He could conceivably make as much as another million to million and a half on top of his $5.4 million by doing things this way.

If the assurance of no trade was given, I have a hard time accepting Ainge wouldn't have consulted with Baynes about his desire to be moved. Heck, after Horford decided he wouldn't be returning, Baynes may have gone to Ainge and told him he didn't want to be here if Al wasn't coming back. We don't know how Baynes was affected by news Al's departure.

I say wait for the story to come out before jumping to nefarious conclusions about Ainge.

[number_n9ne]

Baynes opted into his deal believing he could be on a contender and have a role on this team. Obviously things changed after that, and I'm sure there was mutual agreement that Baynes could get traded later since it didn't look like we'd be a true title threat ourselves, and he preferred it to be with a contender.

And yet, they essentially salary dump him to the Suns??

Yikes. That just adds another dimension to the idea that Ainge is cold-blooded and that future FA's will become even more wary of coming to Boston. I think if Baynes opted-out, he could have gotten slightly more money elsehwere, even on a contending team.

According to a handful of local Suns reporters/sources, it doesn't look like Baynes will get bought out and he'll have a role on that Suns team. This goes against what Keith Smith had tweeted last night.

We may have 35M+ in cap space but this latest trade kind of makes recruiting a bit tougher IMO.

Sounds like you're just getting upset for nothing lol.

He's getting bought out.

There is also a report from Kevin Smith of Yahoo that Baynes is okay with the idea of being traded. The idea that Baynes has somehow been betrayed is just baseless speculation.

It's Keith Smith, and he's not a real source. He's an aggregator of Woj and Shams tweets who pretends to have sources. Dude is a sports news vulture.

[Fafnir]

I say wait for the story to come out before jumping to nefarious conclusions about Ainge.

But nick, NBA twitter personalities who don't like Ainge were MEAN ABOUT IT LAST NIGHT. 

[nickagneta]

I say wait for the story to come out before jumping to nefarious conclusions about Ainge.

But nick, NBA twitter personalities who don't like Ainge were MEAN ABOUT IT LAST NIGHT. 

😆😅 TP4U

[BitterJim]

Since when does Ainge give assurances to players he will not trade them?

Ray Allen, Rondo, Paul Pierce got no such assurances. Only KG did, in no trade clause form.

Ray Allen also got that assurance (and a no-trade clause offered), but only once it was too late

[Irish Stew]

I can only get so upset about where multimillionaires have to play to earn their money. Phoenix is great in the winter. Hopefully, we'll all forget about this when either Vucevic, Adams, Capela, or Towns is a Celtic.

[Celts Fan 508]

This is absurd and waaaaay over the top.  Has Baynes said anything?  Does anyone know if Danny called Baynes and ran it by him before making the trade?

It’s laughable that a player wouldn’t come to Boston for $30 million a year because the Celtics traded Baynes to the Suns.  With all that is going on with this team there is no need to MAKE UP things to get mad about.