Per Woj...Kyrie just fired his agent

[action781]

I think it's a bit shortsighted to think everyone who signs with Roc Nation is interested in going to Brooklyn Just because Jay-z is from there

Maybe kyrie is interested in the business and media off-the-court expertise that roc nation brings

I think the timing right now would be odd if it was only about off-court business and media.  Just weeks before signing an enormous basketball contract he wants to abandon an agency he previously trusted with that kind of stuff and wants to go through that process with a totally new agency?

Strange timing. Why wait until now for the change?

If my above thinking is true that the timing is unlikely for it to be solely off-court opportunities, I think the only two logical scenarios are:
A -- Kyrie has some idea of what he wants and agent is pushing him too aggressively to consider other options.  This could play favorably into resigning with Boston.
B -- Kyrie has already decided he wants to go to NYK or Brooklyn, he would like his agent/agency to be geographically close to him to have a strong relationship.

[NKY fan]

Danny is like that friend that everyone has ...
that blows up his paycheck in the strip club each time thinking that he will go home with his favorite stripper.

Kind-of, only after actually going home with the stripper, the stripper actually pays him. You can say what you want about the guy, but he has several of the most famous trades of recent times. He is generally very well respected. It's not his fault his city's fans blew it.

Everyone agrees on that. However he has been lucky numerous times and also other teams GMs stubbornness saved him from himself a few times.

[jpotter33]

I think it's a bit shortsighted to think everyone who signs with Roc Nation is interested in going to Brooklyn Just because Jay-z is from there

Maybe kyrie is interested in the business and media off-the-court expertise that roc nation brings

I think the timing right now would be odd if it was only about off-court business and media.  Just weeks before signing an enormous basketball contract he wants to abandon an agency he previously trusted with that kind of stuff and wants to go through that process with a totally new agency?

See, I think the opposite. Kyrie is going to get a max contract and whatever he wants money-wise wherever he goes, so the basketball part is of less concern in that regard.

Roc Nation, on the other hand, has many other business ventures and connections, especially in the entertainment industry. I think it would make more sense for it to be about non-basketball stuff than basketball stuff, as why would you make this switch right now on the eve of free agency and not earlier if you were focused on the basketball side.

[gouki88]

I think it's a bit shortsighted to think everyone who signs with Roc Nation is interested in going to Brooklyn Just because Jay-z is from there

Maybe kyrie is interested in the business and media off-the-court expertise that roc nation brings

I think the timing right now would be odd if it was only about off-court business and media.  Just weeks before signing an enormous basketball contract he wants to abandon an agency he previously trusted with that kind of stuff and wants to go through that process with a totally new agency?

See, I think the opposite. Kyrie is going to get a max contract and whatever he wants money-wise wherever he goes, so the basketball part is of less concern in that regard.

Roc Nation, on the other hand, has many other business ventures and connections, especially in the entertainment industry. I think it would make more sense for it to be about non-basketball stuff than basketball stuff, as why would you make this switch right now on the eve of free agency and not earlier if you were focused on the basketball side.

Yeah, with his whole Uncle Drew movie thing going on it makes sense to me

[hwangjini_1]

Isn't ROC nation in deep with Brooklyn?

Jay-z is from Brooklyn. That's about it. They're clientele is pretty spread out.

jay-z use to be small owner of bkln and had to sell his part b/c of this agency, I think. I could have it wrong, I really dont remember it clear enough. I dont really remember because my only interest in the agency was because James Young signed with them when we drafted him.

But it's a partnership with CAA and they don't have a history of steering clients to specific teams.

Doesn't matter though. People are going to infer what they want into this.

Now that Kyrie is gone is it okay for us to criticize him....

what team did kyrie sign with?

He is not under contract with any team right now. So is it okay to be objective about him now?

Rofl. It’s really funny when a fan calls their opinion objective

Well? He is no longer a Celtic can we talk about him now?

Nobody is stopping you. There’s even a Kyrie complaint thread.

My take is Ainge got greedy and messed up a good thing by trading for the malcontent. Now his plan is up in smoke. Kyrie was never a true celtic. I say good riddance to Kyrie.

Danny is like that friend that everyone has ...
that blows up his paycheck in the strip club each time thinking that he will go home with his favorite stripper.

exactly. like the time he threw away all those young, up and coming players for aging KG and ancient allen. ainge doesnt have any idea what he is doing. i wish he would listen to us here more.

[Scintan]

Isn't ROC nation in deep with Brooklyn?

Jay-z is from Brooklyn. That's about it. They're clientele is pretty spread out.

jay-z use to be small owner of bkln and had to sell his part b/c of this agency, I think. I could have it wrong, I really dont remember it clear enough. I dont really remember because my only interest in the agency was because James Young signed with them when we drafted him.

But it's a partnership with CAA and they don't have a history of steering clients to specific teams.

Doesn't matter though. People are going to infer what they want into this.

Now that Kyrie is gone is it okay for us to criticize him....

what team did kyrie sign with?

He is not under contract with any team right now. So is it okay to be objective about him now?

Rofl. It’s really funny when a fan calls their opinion objective

Well? He is no longer a Celtic can we talk about him now?

Nobody is stopping you. There’s even a Kyrie complaint thread.

My take is Ainge got greedy and messed up a good thing by trading for the malcontent. Now his plan is up in smoke. Kyrie was never a true celtic. I say good riddance to Kyrie.

Look, you might be right. I was probably willing to overlook Kyrie's flaws because I wanted us to win.

I don't know that Ainge got greedy. The good thing was ruined by IT's hip anyway.

Good point.  I was against the Irving trade, and I'd still be against it if it were about all players at top health and ability.  But the severity of the Thomas injury makes that all moot.  Whether Ainge got greedy or not, or made the right move for the long term, is no longer relevant, because Thomas isn't Thomas.

[Scintan]

Isn't ROC nation in deep with Brooklyn?

Jay-z is from Brooklyn. That's about it. They're clientele is pretty spread out.

jay-z use to be small owner of bkln and had to sell his part b/c of this agency, I think. I could have it wrong, I really dont remember it clear enough. I dont really remember because my only interest in the agency was because James Young signed with them when we drafted him.

But it's a partnership with CAA and they don't have a history of steering clients to specific teams.

Doesn't matter though. People are going to infer what they want into this.

Now that Kyrie is gone is it okay for us to criticize him....

what team did kyrie sign with?

He is not under contract with any team right now. So is it okay to be objective about him now?

Rofl. It’s really funny when a fan calls their opinion objective

Well? He is no longer a Celtic can we talk about him now?

Nobody is stopping you. There’s even a Kyrie complaint thread.

My take is Ainge got greedy and messed up a good thing by trading for the malcontent. Now his plan is up in smoke. Kyrie was never a true celtic. I say good riddance to Kyrie.

Danny is like that friend that everyone has ...
that blows up his paycheck in the strip club each time thinking that he will go home with his favorite stripper.

exactly. like the time he threw away all those young, up and coming players for aging KG and ancient allen. ainge doesnt have any idea what he is doing. i wish he would listen to us here more.

When people play the "but this trade!" defense/attack with regards to Ainge, they inevitably ignore the weaknesses in their own argument.  Whether it's throwing the Garnett trade up in Ainge's defense, or the Perkins trade as an attack, or any number of other examples in either direction, both sides have cases that can be honestly argued.

[Moranis]

I think it's a bit shortsighted to think everyone who signs with Roc Nation is interested in going to Brooklyn Just because Jay-z is from there

Maybe kyrie is interested in the business and media off-the-court expertise that roc nation brings

I think the timing right now would be odd if it was only about off-court business and media.  Just weeks before signing an enormous basketball contract he wants to abandon an agency he previously trusted with that kind of stuff and wants to go through that process with a totally new agency?

See, I think the opposite. Kyrie is going to get a max contract and whatever he wants money-wise wherever he goes, so the basketball part is of less concern in that regard.

Roc Nation, on the other hand, has many other business ventures and connections, especially in the entertainment industry. I think it would make more sense for it to be about non-basketball stuff than basketball stuff, as why would you make this switch right now on the eve of free agency and not earlier if you were focused on the basketball side.

Actually this would be the time to switch since he had all of the financial leverage.  A new agent can come in now and undercut his current agent because that agent knows a big contract is about to be signed.  You see that kind of thing all the time in those type of industries.  Especially in a sport, like the NBA, where there isn't a whole lot of negotiation.  It is far more about the agent's cut than anything else when a free agent is concerned.  If the new agent takes even 1% less money that is a tremendous amount of money being put back into the player's pocket.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

He changed agents ... this must mean he wants to play for Phoenix.

[BringToughnessBack]

Maybe he can stand in the mirror with the rest of this years Celtics team and fire them all for that performance...tilted after Bruins loss 😁🤢 Who fires their agent right before signing a 100m contract...not the best look for a superstar and I have been a big supporter of his. Yes, I don't know what is going in behind scenes with them but wow, Wow...

[gouki88]

He changed agents ... this must mean he wants to play for Phoenix.

Kyrie and Devon Booker would be perhaps the only back-court with worse defence than Kyrie and Russell. Except for like, IT and Booker

[Ogaju]

Isn't ROC nation in deep with Brooklyn?

Jay-z is from Brooklyn. That's about it. They're clientele is pretty spread out.

jay-z use to be small owner of bkln and had to sell his part b/c of this agency, I think. I could have it wrong, I really dont remember it clear enough. I dont really remember because my only interest in the agency was because James Young signed with them when we drafted him.

But it's a partnership with CAA and they don't have a history of steering clients to specific teams.

Doesn't matter though. People are going to infer what they want into this.

Now that Kyrie is gone is it okay for us to criticize him....

what team did kyrie sign with?

He is not under contract with any team right now. So is it okay to be objective about him now?

Rofl. It’s really funny when a fan calls their opinion objective

Well? He is no longer a Celtic can we talk about him now?

Nobody is stopping you. There’s even a Kyrie complaint thread.

My take is Ainge got greedy and messed up a good thing by trading for the malcontent. Now his plan is up in smoke. Kyrie was never a true celtic. I say good riddance to Kyrie.

Look, you might be right. I was probably willing to overlook Kyrie's flaws because I wanted us to win.

I don't know that Ainge got greedy. The good thing was ruined by IT's hip anyway.

Good point.  I was against the Irving trade, and I'd still be against it if it were about all players at top health and ability.  But the severity of the Thomas injury makes that all moot.  Whether Ainge got greedy or not, or made the right move for the long term, is no longer relevant, because Thomas isn't Thomas.

He got greedy because Kyrie was never in the plan... the plan was to keep getting assets from New Jersey and then go in for the big splash. He got greedy spent the Brooklyn 1st IT and multiple players for the malcontent. Now the malcontent is going to Nets for nothing, zilch, nada, so this makes the Nets trade a little more even. Mean Cs pretty much 'gave' the Nets back one of their picks.

[NKY fan]

Isn't ROC nation in deep with Brooklyn?

Jay-z is from Brooklyn. That's about it. They're clientele is pretty spread out.

jay-z use to be small owner of bkln and had to sell his part b/c of this agency, I think. I could have it wrong, I really dont remember it clear enough. I dont really remember because my only interest in the agency was because James Young signed with them when we drafted him.

But it's a partnership with CAA and they don't have a history of steering clients to specific teams.

Doesn't matter though. People are going to infer what they want into this.

Now that Kyrie is gone is it okay for us to criticize him....

what team did kyrie sign with?

He is not under contract with any team right now. So is it okay to be objective about him now?

Rofl. It’s really funny when a fan calls their opinion objective

Well? He is no longer a Celtic can we talk about him now?

Nobody is stopping you. There’s even a Kyrie complaint thread.

My take is Ainge got greedy and messed up a good thing by trading for the malcontent. Now his plan is up in smoke. Kyrie was never a true celtic. I say good riddance to Kyrie.

Danny is like that friend that everyone has ...
that blows up his paycheck in the strip club each time thinking that he will go home with his favorite stripper.

exactly. like the time he threw away all those young, up and coming players for aging KG and ancient allen. ainge doesnt have any idea what he is doing. i wish he would listen to us here more.

If Ainge trades for Davis he better find a way to bring Beal and or Paul George because we would be the timberwolves of the east and Davis will leave next summer.

[Ogaju]

Isn't ROC nation in deep with Brooklyn?

Jay-z is from Brooklyn. That's about it. They're clientele is pretty spread out.

jay-z use to be small owner of bkln and had to sell his part b/c of this agency, I think. I could have it wrong, I really dont remember it clear enough. I dont really remember because my only interest in the agency was because James Young signed with them when we drafted him.

But it's a partnership with CAA and they don't have a history of steering clients to specific teams.

Doesn't matter though. People are going to infer what they want into this.

Now that Kyrie is gone is it okay for us to criticize him....

what team did kyrie sign with?

He is not under contract with any team right now. So is it okay to be objective about him now?

Rofl. It’s really funny when a fan calls their opinion objective

Well? He is no longer a Celtic can we talk about him now?

Nobody is stopping you. There’s even a Kyrie complaint thread.

My take is Ainge got greedy and messed up a good thing by trading for the malcontent. Now his plan is up in smoke. Kyrie was never a true celtic. I say good riddance to Kyrie.

Danny is like that friend that everyone has ...
that blows up his paycheck in the strip club each time thinking that he will go home with his favorite stripper.

exactly. like the time he threw away all those young, up and coming players for aging KG and ancient allen. ainge doesnt have any idea what he is doing. i wish he would listen to us here more.

If Ainge trades for Davis he better find a way to bring Beal and or Paul George because we would be the timberwolves of the east and Davis will leave next summer.

Davis is not coming.

[gouki88]

Isn't ROC nation in deep with Brooklyn?

Jay-z is from Brooklyn. That's about it. They're clientele is pretty spread out.

jay-z use to be small owner of bkln and had to sell his part b/c of this agency, I think. I could have it wrong, I really dont remember it clear enough. I dont really remember because my only interest in the agency was because James Young signed with them when we drafted him.

But it's a partnership with CAA and they don't have a history of steering clients to specific teams.

Doesn't matter though. People are going to infer what they want into this.

Now that Kyrie is gone is it okay for us to criticize him....

what team did kyrie sign with?

He is not under contract with any team right now. So is it okay to be objective about him now?

Rofl. It’s really funny when a fan calls their opinion objective

Well? He is no longer a Celtic can we talk about him now?

Nobody is stopping you. There’s even a Kyrie complaint thread.

My take is Ainge got greedy and messed up a good thing by trading for the malcontent. Now his plan is up in smoke. Kyrie was never a true celtic. I say good riddance to Kyrie.

Look, you might be right. I was probably willing to overlook Kyrie's flaws because I wanted us to win.

I don't know that Ainge got greedy. The good thing was ruined by IT's hip anyway.

Good point.  I was against the Irving trade, and I'd still be against it if it were about all players at top health and ability.  But the severity of the Thomas injury makes that all moot.  Whether Ainge got greedy or not, or made the right move for the long term, is no longer relevant, because Thomas isn't Thomas.

He got greedy because Kyrie was never in the plan... the plan was to keep getting assets from New Jersey and then go in for the big splash. He got greedy spent the Brooklyn 1st IT and multiple players for the malcontent. Now the malcontent is going to Nets for nothing, zilch, nada, so this makes the Nets trade a little more even. Mean Cs pretty much 'gave' the Nets back one of their picks.

You're missing the fact that the Brooklyn first became pretty low value. A number 8 pick is not very special. I'd rather have 2 seasons of the malcontent than Collin Sexton. The people here who think Kyrie doesn't pass would gouge their eyes out with Sexton.