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Six minutes of mayhem in the 3rd that killed us
« on: May 01, 2019, 12:57:35 AM »

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This is where it all unraveled for us. Not that we played great in the first half but we hung in there. But in the 3rd we compounded bad shot selection and turnovers with letting the Bucks run the floor in transition. Basically: bad shot -- Bucks run the floor in transition -- Bucks score. Turnover -- Bucks run the floor in transition -- Bucks score.

I broke the last 6 minutes of the 3rd quarter down minute by disastrous minute. We started off this 6 min stretch with 3 ill-advised 3s on our way to scoring 2 points and the Bucks scored 24. Bucks made 9-10 free throws during that 6 min period as well. We were 0-4 from 3, they were 3-6 with Giannis making 2 of them.

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Time Team Action Score
7:06 Celtics Marcus Morris makes 14-foot pullup jump shot (Jaylen Brown assists) 71 - 74
6:52 Celtics Kyrie Irving shooting foul 71 - 74
6:52 Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo makes free throw 1 of 2 71 - 75
6:52 Bucks Ersan Ilyasova enters the game for Eric Bledsoe 71 - 75
6:52 Bucks George Hill enters the game for Brook Lopez 71 - 75
6:52 Celtics Gordon Hayward enters the game for Jayson Tatum 71 - 75
6:52 Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo makes free throw 2 of 2 71 - 76
6:34 Celtics Kyrie Irving misses 31-foot three point jumper 71 - 76
6:31 Bucks Khris Middleton defensive rebound 71 - 76
6:21 Bucks Khris Middleton misses 22-foot three point jumper 71 - 76
6:18 Celtics Jaylen Brown defensive rebound 71 - 76
6:15 Celtics Jaylen Brown misses 31-foot three point jumper 71 - 76
6:13 Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo defensive rebound 71 - 76

5:59 Bucks Pat Connaughton makes layup (Khris Middleton assists) 71 - 78
5:47 Celtics Gordon Hayward misses 29-foot three point jumper 71 - 78
5:44 Bucks Pat Connaughton defensive rebound 71 - 78
5:33 Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo makes 26-foot three point jumper (Ersan Ilyasova assists) 71 - 81
5:33 Celtics Celtics Full timeout 71 - 81
5:16 Celtics Al Horford lost ball turnover (Ersan Ilyasova steals) 71 - 81
5:14 Bucks Pat Connaughton out of bounds lost ball turnover 71 - 81

4:59 Celtics Gordon Hayward offensive charge 71 - 81
4:59 Celtics Gordon Hayward turnover 71 - 81
4:59 Celtics Aron Baynes enters the game for Al Horford 71 - 81
4:51 Celtics Aron Baynes kicked ball violation 71 - 81
4:34 Bucks Ersan Ilyasova makes jumper (Giannis Antetokounmpo assists) 71 - 83
4:17 Celtics Jaylen Brown bad pass (Giannis Antetokounmpo steals) 71 - 83
4:10 Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo misses two point shot 71 - 83
4:06 Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo offensive rebound 71 - 83
4:06 Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo makes tip shot 71 - 85
4:01 Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo personal foul 71 - 85
4:01 Bucks Nikola Mirotic enters the game for Khris Middleton 71 - 85
4:01 Celtics Terry Rozier enters the game for Jaylen Brown 71 - 85

3:49 Celtics Kyrie Irving misses 13-foot two point shot 71 - 85
3:46 Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo defensive rebound 71 - 85
3:43 Celtics Aron Baynes blocks Giannis Antetokounmpo's driving layup 71 - 85
3:42 Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo offensive rebound 71 - 85
3:41 Celtics Aron Baynes shooting foul 71 - 85
3:41 Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo makes free throw 1 of 2 71 - 86
3:41 Celtics Jayson Tatum enters the game for Marcus Morris 71 - 86
3:41 Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo misses free throw 2 of 2 71 - 86
3:38 Celtics Jayson Tatum defensive rebound 71 - 86
3:26 Celtics Kyrie Irving out of bounds bad pass turnover 71 - 86
3:12 Bucks Pat Connaughton misses 26-foot three point jumper 71 - 86
3:09 Celtics Terry Rozier defensive rebound 71 - 86

2:58 Celtics Terry Rozier misses 21-foot jumper 71 - 86
2:54 Celtics Kyrie Irving offensive rebound 71 - 86
2:49 Celtics Jayson Tatum misses driving layup 71 - 86
2:45 Celtics Aron Baynes offensive rebound 71 - 86
2:45 Celtics Aron Baynes makes tip shot 73 - 86
2:38 Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo makes 26-foot three point jumper (Pat Connaughton assists)73 - 89
2:23 Celtics Gordon Hayward misses driving floating jump shot 73 - 89
2:21 Bucks Pat Connaughton defensive rebound 73 - 89
2:18 Celtics Aron Baynes shooting foul 73 - 89
2:18 Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo makes free throw 1 of 2 73 - 90
2:18 Bucks Giannis Antetokounmpo makes free throw 2 of 2 73 - 91
2:17 Bucks Pat Connaughton personal take foul 73 - 91
2:17 Bucks Eric Bledsoe enters the game for Pat Connaughton 73 - 91
2:17 Bucks Khris Middleton enters the game for Giannis Antetokounmpo 73 - 91
2:03 Celtics Terry Rozier misses 28-foot three point jumper 73 - 91
2:00 Bucks Nikola Mirotic defensive rebound 73 - 91

1:56 Celtics Jayson Tatum shooting foul 73 - 91
1:56 Bucks Eric Bledsoe makes free throw 1 of 2 73 - 92
1:56 Celtics Al Horford enters the game for Kyrie Irving 73 - 92
1:56 Celtics Jaylen Brown enters the game for Aron Baynes 73 - 92
1:56 Bucks Eric Bledsoe makes free throw 2 of 2 73 - 93
1:42 Celtics Terry Rozier misses 19-foot pullup jump shot 73 - 93
1:38 Bucks Nikola Mirotic defensive rebound 73 - 93
1:20 Bucks Eric Bledsoe makes 28-foot three point jumper 73 - 96
1:01 Celtics Jaylen Brown misses two point shot 73 - 96

58.4 Bucks Khris Middleton defensive rebound 73 - 96
55 Bucks Eric Bledsoe misses 28-foot three point jumper 73 - 96
51.4 Celtics Al Horford defensive rebound 73 - 96
48.9 Celtics Al Horford traveling 73 - 96
48.9 Bucks Brook Lopez enters the game for Nikola Mirotic 73 - 96
48.9 Bucks Pat Connaughton enters the game for Ersan Ilyasova 73 - 96
36.3 Celtics Jaylen Brown shooting foul 73 - 96
36.3 Bucks Eric Bledsoe makes free throw 1 of 2 73 - 97
36.3 Bucks Eric Bledsoe makes free throw 2 of 2 73 - 98
21.3 Celtics Jayson Tatum out of bounds bad pass turnover 73 - 98
0.9 Bucks Eric Bledsoe misses 10-foot two point shot 73 - 98
0.9 Celtics Al Horford defensive rebound 73 - 98
0 End of the 3rd Quarter 73 - 98

Just goes to show how quickly things can snowball in today's NBA. We need to be able to get stops even when we aren't shooting the ball well. Long 3s that aren't open and miss create transition opportunities for the other team.

But on the positive side it should be really clear to them what they have to fix. And to not let offensive droughts affect our defense. The Bucks did it after Game 1, they were done in by a terrible 3rd quarter but adjusted. We can do it too. We're still 1-1, all to play for, and we have home court.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2019, 01:04:37 AM by ozgod »
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Re: Six minutes of mayhem in the 3rd that killed us
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2019, 01:06:25 AM »

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TP for the comprehensive breakdown. One of the most widespread team collapses I've seen in quite some time.

Hopefully we bounce back for game 3. At home, remembering Hondo and looking to avenge a shocking 3rd quarter should hopefully make for a good performance.
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Re: Six minutes of mayhem in the 3rd that killed us
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2019, 01:08:04 AM »

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TP for the comprehensive breakdown. One of the most widespread team collapses I've seen in quite some time.

Hopefully we bounce back for game 3. At home, remembering Hondo and looking to avenge a shocking 3rd quarter should hopefully make for a good performance.

It shows how quickly things can change from the compounding of some critical moments. I guess that's what they mean when they say "win each moment".
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Re: Six minutes of mayhem in the 3rd that killed us
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TP for the comprehensive breakdown. One of the most widespread team collapses I've seen in quite some time.

Hopefully we bounce back for game 3. At home, remembering Hondo and looking to avenge a shocking 3rd quarter should hopefully make for a good performance.

It shows how quickly things can change from the compounding of some critical moments. I guess that's what they mean when they say "win each moment".
Yeah, this was the perfect example of the snowball effect you see in the league all the time. Shame it happened to us!
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Re: Six minutes of mayhem in the 3rd that killed us
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2019, 01:26:31 AM »

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Didn't the Bucks go on something crazy like a 24-4 run from the 3rd quarter into the beginning of the 4th?

Yikes...

Re: Six minutes of mayhem in the 3rd that killed us
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Didn't the Bucks go on something crazy like a 24-4 run from the 3rd quarter into the beginning of the 4th?

Yikes...

It was more like 31-4. 74-71 to 105-75 if memory serves (I was fast forwarding by then)

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Didn't the Bucks go on something crazy like a 24-4 run from the 3rd quarter into the beginning of the 4th?

Yikes...

it was 28-2, starting from the 6th minute of the 3rd half to early in the 4th.
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Didn't the Bucks go on something crazy like a 24-4 run from the 3rd quarter into the beginning of the 4th?

Yikes...

it was 28-2, starting from the 6th minute of the 3rd half to early in the 4th.

Wow...what a nightmare.

Re: Six minutes of mayhem in the 3rd that killed us
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2019, 01:34:08 AM »

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I posted the above not to depress everyone  :angel: but to show how really the game hinges on some of those key moments. Lose some of those moments in a row and it snowballs. We went totally away from our game plan in those 6 minutes, started tossing up 3s (we made 3 ill advised 3s in a row from Kyrie, Jaylen and Gordon), turned the ball over after a time out wasting an ATO opportunity and Antetokounmpo hit 2 threes in addition to his usual trips to the line.

Kyrie mentioned this in his post game presser:

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We shot a little too quick tonight,” Kyrie Irving admitted. “Especially some of the shots I took.”

“We’ve just got to find a way to keep our tempo. That’s my job, to go out there and set that example for our team,” Irving said. “They were getting out in transition, they made plays, but there were times, examples in the game where I could have slowed us down and got us into some sets we’ve gone to and attacked the switches.”

“They did a great job of switching tonight, forcing me left,” he said. “Getting to the paint wasn’t hard. It’s just getting in there and making the right decisions. And the way I started off the game as well, of just getting downhill, just set an example for my teammates the way we want to play, I just didn’t put my stamp on that. So I think that the rest of the tempo of the game, they did a great job controlling it.”

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2019/05/boston-celtics-vs-milwaukee-bucks-bad-celtics-offense-leads-to-worse-defense-and-bucks-took-full-advantage.html

But it also means it's all fixable. Just need to stick to our game plan even when the shots aren't falling, and not to let poor offense lead to bad defense. I doubt Milwaukee will shoot 20-47 from 3 again, and if they do for the next 3 or 4 games well they probably deserve to win the series  :police:

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Good job to OP TP for the breakdown. Most alarming takeaway from this is Brad only called one timeout in the midst of that horrible stretch. I could see the Cs were playing at a very horrible and uncomfortable pace. If I could see it Brad should have seen it and addressed it. Kyrie admits it after tge game perhaps he needed Brad to address it during the game.

That run called for multiple timeouts and Brad failed to call them. Coaching failure.

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The good news is that the reffing will likely be favourable to us in game 3, Scott Foster is officiating the game and he tends to favour the home team in the playoffs.
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Didn't the Bucks go on something crazy like a 24-4 run from the 3rd quarter into the beginning of the 4th?

Yikes...

it was 28-2, starting from the 6th minute of the 3rd half to early in the 4th.

Wow...what a nightmare.

Normally, whoever let that happen should be fired immediately. You do not allow an 8-2 run, let alone a 28-2 run.


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Didn't the Bucks go on something crazy like a 24-4 run from the 3rd quarter into the beginning of the 4th?

Yikes...

it was 28-2, starting from the 6th minute of the 3rd half to early in the 4th.

Wow...what a nightmare.

Normally, whoever let that happen should be fired immediately. You do not allow an 8-2 run, let alone a 28-2 run.

you would fire the entire team? timeouts were called but to no effect, and callting a TO is not a guarantee that something will change
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Didn't the Bucks go on something crazy like a 24-4 run from the 3rd quarter into the beginning of the 4th?

Yikes...

it was 28-2, starting from the 6th minute of the 3rd half to early in the 4th.

Wow...what a nightmare.

Normally, whoever let that happen should be fired immediately. You do not allow an 8-2 run, let alone a 28-2 run.
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Then nobody's left..... You act like that kind of runs never happen.