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the development of Robert Williams
« on: January 30, 2019, 05:30:50 AM »

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With all the chaos and rumors how well is Williams progressing with his shooting or post game.I watched him hit a 15 foot jumper for Red Claws and it was smooth.In the most recent game he only blocked one shot as he stayed grounded and wasn't challenged.He was an  integral part of a 26 point recovery and win.
We know he can jump and dunk and a more than competent passer..
Does he still have a personal coach? What is he working on in practice.?
BUT what do the coaches say?What is the ultimate goal for Williams?How are his knee issues?Will he ever develop an offensive game outside dunks put backs and pick and rolls?

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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2019, 05:58:01 AM »

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From what I've seen, Williams has a nice mid range shot. Maybe someday Brad will let him shoot it.

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« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2019, 05:59:45 AM »

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From what I've seen, Williams has a nice mid range shot. Maybe someday Brad will let him shoot it.

In 3 years ::)

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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2019, 07:19:16 AM »

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I think Robin Williams has developed very nicely

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R21imckcUE

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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2019, 10:17:01 AM »

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He already had a mid-range in college he just didn't use it because he knows his role

Tonight we saw a glance of it

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He already had a mid-range in college he just didn't use it because he knows his role

Tonight we saw a glance of it
He needs to have it in his arsenal, for example as last option on broken plays.  That will keep the defenses honest.

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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2019, 10:43:55 AM »

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From what I've seen, Williams has a nice mid range shot. Maybe someday Brad will let him shoot it.
i really have no idea why folks are posting this way. does CBS have along record of not playing rookies? from what i see CBS plays rookies often....when they earn it and are good enough to put on the floor.

CBS also seems to bring other rookies along more slowly, developing good habits and patterns with them.
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2019, 11:21:17 AM »

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From what I've seen, Williams has a nice mid range shot. Maybe someday Brad will let him shoot it.
i really have no idea why folks are posting this way. does CBS have along record of not playing rookies? from what i see CBS plays rookies often....when they earn it and are good enough to put on the floor.

CBS also seems to bring other rookies along more slowly, developing good habits and patterns with them.

People post this way because Robert Williams dunked the ball once, which obviously means he's worth playing for 20 minutes a night.

I'm being intentionally hyperbolic.  But my point is that fans love to advocate for the shiny new toy on the end of the bench despite having very limited data to support the argument.  It's easy to see the dunks and blocks from Robert Williams, but it's harder to identify the missed assignments, bad habits, and poor positioning that are keeping him out of the lineup. 

I believe in RW.  I think he'll get there.  But he's not a rotation-worthy player yet.  There's a reason he's not playing consistently, and there's a reason he's not getting an opportunity to show off whatever jumpshot he has. 

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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2019, 11:30:37 AM »

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Celticsblog posters, for time immemorial, have had an afflicting fixation on athletic pure centers that block shots.


Ainge rarely puts such players on the roster, favoring players with more well rounded skillsets.

You can trace it back to the Perkins trade, to Ainge not drafting Deandre Jordan, and probably well before that.


R-Williams is just the latest example.


The problem is that the Celts have a system on both ends built around versatility, skill, positioning, etc.  RW is raw and may get there someday but he isn't really equipped to provide significant minutes at the moment.

Flashy blocks are fun but positional defense and communication are actually way more effective.
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Celticsblog posters, for time immemorial, have had an afflicting fixation on athletic pure centers that block shots.


Ainge rarely puts such players on the roster, favoring players with more well rounded skillsets.

You can trace it back to the Perkins trade, to Ainge not drafting Deandre Jordan, and probably well before that.


R-Williams is just the latest example.



The problem is that the Celts have a system on both ends built around versatility, skill, positioning, etc.  RW is raw and may get there someday but he isn't really equipped to provide significant minutes at the moment.

Flashy blocks are fun but positional defense and communication are actually way more effective.
No doubt, but isn't that driven more by not seeing the best talent value at the center spot for where he was picking?  Notable exceptions would be Embiid, Ayton, etc, but he hasn't been in a position to draft such a player. The undersized PF picks have been not so great.  It's been wings and guards where DA could find the best talent in recent years. 

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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2019, 02:05:48 PM »

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No doubt, but isn't that driven more by not seeing the best talent value at the center spot for where he was picking?


I think that's part of it, but he also has never really gone after players like that via trade or in free agency.


To be clear, I don't think that's a bad thing.
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