« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2018, 01:03:34 PM »
sign and trade for Thomas?
Ha ha. In all seriousness, trading Irving for prospects just doesn't make sense for this Celtics team. I think in a vacuum though Ingram and Ball/Kuzma for Irving is probably solid value given the uncertainty with both Irving's knee and contract situation. Again though, that type o trade makes no sense for Boston in its current position. Now if there was a 3rd team with a star coming back to Boston in the trade, that would make more sense.
Something like
Bos - Kawhi, Ball
LAL - Irving,
SAS - Ingram, Morris, Rozier, Bos 19 1st
In a vacuum, that seems like reasonable enough value for all 3 teams. Though unless Leonard and Irving both ask out, I don't see why either of those teams would make that trade.
If Irving asked out of Boston...The Celtics would gladly add Leonard...
But the above trade shafts the Spurs and the Lakers make out like bandits. So:
To Boston: Leonard, Lakers 2018 first
To Lakers: Irving
To Spurs: Ingram, Ball, Morris, Clippers pick, Memphis pick, Lakers 2020 first
a little better but I think the Spurs still reject it...they'd want Sac pick instead of Memphis/LA picks...then it gets too pricey for Celtics.
slight problem there -- the Laker's first round pick this year belongs to Philly
Oh..I meant pick 25.
so C's give up Kyrie, Morris, Clips Pick and Memphis pick for Kawhi and a late 1st?
call me crazy but I'd pass unless Kyrie was forcing his way out of town which isn't the case right now. I'm just not as enamored with Kawhi as many other are. terrific player but I don't see him as that much better than Kyrie to justify that extra cost especially when we're already in excellent shape on the wings with Hayward, Brown and Tatum.
Yeah he claims the Spurs were getting shafted and then makes a trade where the Spurs make out like bandits. Leonard is in the last year of his deal and hasn't played in months. If he asks out, the Spurs aren't going to be doing all that well in a trade. I firmly believe the original trade I had would be pretty solid value for them. They get Ingram, Rozier, a future 1st, as well as a solid vet on a good contract in Morris. That is a pretty decent return for a player that basically missed the entire season, is in the last year of his contract, and isn't going to return when his contract is up.
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