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Re: Assault trial of Marcus and Markieff Morris set to begin Monday
« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2017, 01:49:42 PM »

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  I hope a Lifetime movie is made from this trial someday.

Im wanting to play the part of Morris twins ......i'll ACT both of their parts .   ;D

Re: Assault trial of Marcus and Markieff Morris set to begin Monday
« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2017, 02:50:21 PM »

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So there were 5 total involved in the alleged assault, 2 pleaded guilty, 2 (the Morris's) are on trial, what about the 5th one?  Is it normal to have 2 on trial together like this?  Does anyone understand what their defense is going to be?

I am not condoning this sort of vigilante justice but this seems like a really dumb thing to be in criminal court.  You know all the guy Hood wants is some money.  Why isn't this a civil case?  Why would the DA bother with this case.  There have to be more meaningful cases they could be putting their resources towards.

The defense will probably be similar to what they raised in a prior motion:

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"None of the allegations raised by the Defendants amount to clearly exculpatory evidence omitted by the prosecution's presentation to the grand jury," Sinclair wrote in her ruling. "The precise geographic location of part of the assault, what some witnesses saw while others did not, and differing versions of the assault from the victim and other witnesses, are not clearly exculpatory evidence that would affect the grand jury's probable cause determination. The grand jury was told that a number of witnesses observed little to nothing of any portion of the assault, as requested by the Defendants. The grand jury was told that the victim indicated that he could not say for sure if Markieff Morris was hitting or kicking him. The fact that specific photographs or line by line statements of each witness interview were not presented to the grand jury does not mean that the presentation itself was prejudicially misleading."

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According to the Republic, the twins’ attorneys contend a witness told police he saw the Morris brothers in a parking lot “at least 100 yards away from the fracas,” and the testimony wasn’t shared with the grand jury. The motion also said prosecutors failed to mention Hood changed his version of the incident.

So, they'll try to create reasonable doubt based upon witnesses not agreeing on what happened, etc.

How they're going to bleed 70 - 80 hours of court time out of this, I have no idea.
Based on your expert legal opinion, what do you think the chances are that this trial results in a verdict that gets Morris suspended.

It feels bad to say but in order to still watch the NFL (and to a lesser extent the NBA), I've needed to divorce who players are on the field/court with what they do off the court. If I only supported teams without any history of doing anything wrong, I wouldn't have any teams to support.

One of three things is happening right now:

1. One side believes that they have an extremely strong case;

2. Egos are keeping the two sides apart on what should be a plea; or

3. There is substantial bluffing going on, with the hopes that something will be worked out last minute.

Regarding Marcus, it could be any of the three. The case seems substantially less strong against Markieff.

My guess is that any sort of conviction will result in a short suspension. Cases like this get pled down to misdemeanors all of the time, but even if this goes to a jury verdict, in most jurisdictions they would be able to find either defendant guilty of what is known as a lesser included offense, in this case misdemeanor assault.

My prediction is still that the parties reach a plea deal that involves a suspended sentence, probation, restitution, and probably a concurrent financial settlement in the civil case.



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Re: Assault trial of Marcus and Markieff Morris set to begin Monday
« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2017, 11:16:45 PM »

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He's facing jail time. Its a very real possibility that he ends up in jail.

Re: Assault trial of Marcus and Markieff Morris set to begin Monday
« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2017, 11:18:13 PM »

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So... What happens if Morris can't play for the C's this year?? Cry?
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Re: Assault trial of Marcus and Markieff Morris set to begin Monday
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2017, 11:50:37 PM »

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  I hope a Lifetime movie is made from this trial someday.

Slow down, dude, I haven't even watched their **** masterpiece yet. ::)

Edit: apparently "B r i t n e y S p e a r s" is censored on here, l m a o :laugh:.

Re: Assault trial of Marcus and Markieff Morris set to begin Monday
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2017, 05:21:37 PM »

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  I hope a Lifetime movie is made from this trial someday.

Slow down, dude, I haven't even watched their **** masterpiece yet. ::)

Edit: apparently "B r i t n e y S p e a r s" is censored on here, l m a o :laugh:.
I watched that one with the wife. They cast a blonde actress who can't sing or act and also doesn't look anything like her. I know it's a Lifetime movie, but they couldn't get someone to check even one of those boxes? They'd have been better off casting Derrick Barry, at least he looks like Spears.
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Re: Assault trial of Marcus and Markieff Morris set to begin Monday
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2017, 05:26:47 PM »

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So... What happens if Morris can't play for the C's this year?? Cry?

Tatum starts. :P
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Re: Assault trial of Marcus and Markieff Morris set to begin Monday
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2017, 12:13:40 AM »

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  I hope a Lifetime movie is made from this trial someday.

Slow down, dude, I haven't even watched their **** masterpiece yet. ::)

Edit: apparently "B r i t n e y S p e a r s" is censored on here, l m a o :laugh:.
I watched that one with the wife. They cast a blonde actress who can't sing or act and also doesn't look anything like her. I know it's a Lifetime movie, but they couldn't get someone to check even one of those boxes? They'd have been better off casting Derrick Barry, at least he looks like Spears.

Idk man, that sounds like a pretty accurate portrayal to me :laugh:.

Re: Assault trial of Marcus and Markieff Morris set to begin Monday
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2017, 03:40:06 PM »

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  I hope a Lifetime movie is made from this trial someday.

Slow down, dude, I haven't even watched their **** masterpiece yet. ::)

Edit: apparently "B r i t n e y S p e a r s" is censored on here, l m a o :laugh:.
I watched that one with the wife. They cast a blonde actress who can't sing or act and also doesn't look anything like her. I know it's a Lifetime movie, but they couldn't get someone to check even one of those boxes? They'd have been better off casting Derrick Barry, at least he looks like Spears.

Idk man, that sounds like a pretty accurate portrayal to me :laugh:.
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Re: Assault trial of Marcus and Markieff Morris set to begin Monday
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2017, 04:26:28 PM »

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So there were 5 total involved in the alleged assault, 2 pleaded guilty, 2 (the Morris's) are on trial, what about the 5th one?  Is it normal to have 2 on trial together like this?  Does anyone understand what their defense is going to be?

I am not condoning this sort of vigilante justice but this seems like a really dumb thing to be in criminal court.  You know all the guy Hood wants is some money.  Why isn't this a civil case?  Why would the DA bother with this case.  There have to be more meaningful cases they could be putting their resources towards.

The defense will probably be similar to what they raised in a prior motion:

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"None of the allegations raised by the Defendants amount to clearly exculpatory evidence omitted by the prosecution's presentation to the grand jury," Sinclair wrote in her ruling. "The precise geographic location of part of the assault, what some witnesses saw while others did not, and differing versions of the assault from the victim and other witnesses, are not clearly exculpatory evidence that would affect the grand jury's probable cause determination. The grand jury was told that a number of witnesses observed little to nothing of any portion of the assault, as requested by the Defendants. The grand jury was told that the victim indicated that he could not say for sure if Markieff Morris was hitting or kicking him. The fact that specific photographs or line by line statements of each witness interview were not presented to the grand jury does not mean that the presentation itself was prejudicially misleading."

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According to the Republic, the twins’ attorneys contend a witness told police he saw the Morris brothers in a parking lot “at least 100 yards away from the fracas,” and the testimony wasn’t shared with the grand jury. The motion also said prosecutors failed to mention Hood changed his version of the incident.

So, they'll try to create reasonable doubt based upon witnesses not agreeing on what happened, etc.

How they're going to bleed 70 - 80 hours of court time out of this, I have no idea.
Based on your expert legal opinion, what do you think the chances are that this trial results in a verdict that gets Morris suspended.

It feels bad to say but in order to still watch the NFL (and to a lesser extent the NBA), I've needed to divorce who players are on the field/court with what they do off the court. If I only supported teams without any history of doing anything wrong, I wouldn't have any teams to support.

One of three things is happening right now:

1. One side believes that they have an extremely strong case;

2. Egos are keeping the two sides apart on what should be a plea; or

3. There is substantial bluffing going on, with the hopes that something will be worked out last minute.

Regarding Marcus, it could be any of the three. The case seems substantially less strong against Markieff.

My guess is that any sort of conviction will result in a short suspension. Cases like this get pled down to misdemeanors all of the time, but even if this goes to a jury verdict, in most jurisdictions they would be able to find either defendant guilty of what is known as a lesser included offense, in this case misdemeanor assault.

My prediction is still that the parties reach a plea deal that involves a suspended sentence, probation, restitution, and probably a concurrent financial settlement in the civil case.

This seems like the point of the entire issue. They kicked a dude while he was on the ground. Hood told police he sustained a fractured nose, abrasions and a large bump on his head. Although I'm not sure what Hood (allegedly) did, it is a stupid and lowlife act, and esp. dumb for millionaires. Hopefully Marcus doesn't get involved in more BS like this.

A payout will prob. occur, so I can't see this having a huge effect on the Celtics season. An NBA suspension of 5-10 games? Oh well, not that big of a deal. We get to see Tatum and Brown get 25mpg.
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Re: Assault trial of Marcus and Markieff Morris set to begin Monday
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2017, 10:03:54 AM »

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With all the legal maneuvering going on it is clear our Morris  will be missing the start of the season regardless of wether he gets suspension or jail time or just tied up for court appearances. I don't  see how he will be able to practice much with the Celtics during the preseason. Realistically he could be out till at least Halloween or later even if he gets a minimum judgement against him or nothing. Has he been working out with the team or in training camp at all?

Point is, I think all our predictions of who starts at PF and how much he contributes are out the window till Christmas  or later. This may open the door for some other bigs considered behind him on the depth chart. I wonder who the front runners are? Does this mean Baynes starts at the 5? Is Theis our starter at the 4? Will Tatum get a shot?

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