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too risky even for Danny
« on: September 04, 2017, 04:45:15 AM »

Offline rollie mass

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I  witnessed Isaiah play a historical season for Boston Celtics and now nothing can diminish or tarnish that.Its over and i'm glad he was traded in the package for Kyrie
I just revisited that fall in his first season to re-enforce what i am going to write
Just go and watch  the height isaiah falls and the jarring blow to hip,back and elbow.All season i marveled at Isaiah's attacking and finishing at the rim while dreading the possible outcome.At some point i foresaw a wrist injury,a high ankle sprain,or other catastrophic injuries of knee or hip from being pummeled to the hardwood floor. His unique construction and frame could only withstand so much twisting and torque to its joints, ligaments and muscles
.Was Isaiah immune to pain? As i remembered the wrist and ankle injuries i suffered culminating in having all the cartilage removed from my knee and a dislocated frozen shoulder.
Bird went out early and you could see and feel his pain as it robbed and tortured the joy from his game
I couldn't imagine Ainge paying him a huge contract of any duration so he HAD TO GET KYRIE
after he passed on fultz
Losing Isaiah hurts now
Losing avery hurts now
Losing crowder hurts now
And this pain and confusion will dissipate after a few WOW plays by kyrie or just some subtle
plays with Horford and Hayward
Then there will be Jaylen And a Tatum fall away and the fog of what was or could have been will dissipate
« Last Edit: September 04, 2017, 05:43:11 AM by rollie mass »

Re: too risky even for Danny
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2017, 05:01:10 AM »

Offline Androslav

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Danny is the definition of risk mitigation Rollie.
He put his cards on young, talented, smart, athletic, winning and coachable players.
On the way to do it, he traded older, less talented and athletically less gifted winners, that just reached their ceiling and worry us that their bodies will give up.

That is DA playing 3-D chess right there.
"The joy of the balling under the rims."

Re: too risky even for Danny
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2017, 05:43:13 AM »

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Danny is the definition of risk mitigation Rollie.
He put his cards on young, talented, smart, athletic, winning and coachable players.
On the way to do it, he traded older, less talented and athletically less gifted winners, that just reached their ceiling and worry us that their bodies will give up.

That is DA playing 3-D chess right there.

This trade still sounds like a huge overpay. But I'm sure we'll look back a couple of years from now and realize again how smart Danny is.

Re: too risky even for Danny
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2017, 05:50:29 AM »

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The main market law: Sell high, buy low. Ainge has sold the highest of those guys.


TP Androslav.

Re: too risky even for Danny
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2017, 05:52:51 AM »

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Danny is the definition of risk mitigation Rollie.
He put his cards on young, talented, smart, athletic, winning and coachable players.
On the way to do it, he traded older, less talented and athletically less gifted winners, that just reached their ceiling and worry us that their bodies will give up.

That is DA playing 3-D chess right there.

Thanks and TP--i just got  a twinge of fan remorse and the tyranny of IF ONLY when i thought how we could have kept Avery- as Danny mentioned the even with cap lowering and i plugged in how little it would have been over to keep him
If he had gone to Cleveland vs Detroit it would have made them just stronger--
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I just know one thing, that Ainge got us Crowder and IT4 and turned them into Irving and Hayward. If someone had told us this will happen 2-3 years ago, what would you have said then?

Re: too risky even for Danny
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2017, 07:44:35 AM »

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the way I look at it is, there is a small chance that this brooklyn pick becomes someone even close to kyrie irving. And with more teams actively tanking this year there is a chance it lands outside the top 3. It could become a franchise player, or it could be someone like a marcus smart who while a good player I dont think you would say he is a "have to have" player where you wouldnt give up for Irving.

I LOVE IT4 and will miss him, but I see why danny did the trade. you heard ainge/wyc keep saying "irving fits our timeline better" which means to me by the time they feel they are competing for championships and brown/tatum are full contributers IT4 will be on the back 9. While irving will still be in his prime. we likely arent contenders this year, but next year if Lebron leaves the east is ours...

 funny thing is this board a couple weeks ago was adament that IT4 was not worth the max. now ainge made a big mistake  ::)

Re: too risky even for Danny
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Danny is the definition of risk mitigation Rollie.
He put his cards on young, talented, smart, athletic, winning and coachable players.
On the way to do it, he traded older, less talented and athletically less gifted winners, that just reached their ceiling and worry us that their bodies will give up.

That is DA playing 3-D chess right there.

This trade still sounds like a huge overpay. But I'm sure we'll look back a couple of years from now and realize again how smart Danny is.

It does, but if you discount IT having a half-season the walking in free agency, it doesn't.  That was and is a real possibility.

Re: too risky even for Danny
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2017, 08:58:06 AM »

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Danny is the definition of risk mitigation Rollie.
He put his cards on young, talented, smart, athletic, winning and coachable players.
On the way to do it, he traded older, less talented and athletically less gifted winners, that just reached their ceiling and worry us that their bodies will give up.

That is DA playing 3-D chess right there.

This trade still sounds like a huge overpay. But I'm sure we'll look back a couple of years from now and realize again how smart Danny is.

It does, but if you discount IT having a half-season the walking in free agency, it doesn't.  That was and is a real possibility.

Yeah with the injury and end of contract, IT was as much salary matching and hope he can play late and into the playoffs. That's not much. It was basically Irving for the pick,  value 3+D player, and prospect (Zizic). IT isn't more than a wild card in trade value due to injury.

So, not an overpay. Or a risky trade really.