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Kyrie's a Trip. (INTP)
« on: September 02, 2017, 05:19:13 AM »

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Like many of you today was the first time I ever heard Kyrie Irving speak and fair to say I was blown away. I'm not saying I agree with everything he said or that it's all positive, but what I saw today was a deeply cerebral, socially conscious thinker. For better or worse the newest Celtic seems to have a limitless stream of discourse that he's trying to work through bubbling right below the surface of that stoic demeanor.

This is just my take on him as an amateur psychology enthusiast but what I saw today reminded me of something from the Meyers Briggs Personality test in the section for INTP...
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They love patterns, and spotting discrepancies between statements could almost be described as a hobby, making it a bad idea to lie to an INTP. This makes it ironic that INTPs’ word should always be taken with a grain of salt – it’s not that they are dishonest, but people with the INTP personality type tend to share thoughts that are not fully developed, using others as a sounding board for ideas and theories in a debate against themselves rather than as actual conversation partners.
https://www.16personalities.com/intp-personality

I think that what we saw today was Kyrie using the entire viewing public as a sounding board for some deeper inner monologue that he's constantly trying to work through in his head.

When you heard the somewhat disjointed hodgepodge of vocabulary that make up his answers at times it's easy to raise your eyebrows(my favorite was when he said something like 'my intent was exactly my intention') but what I like about him is that even if his response isn't fully developed its coming from a deeply introspective place. I'll take this guy 10 times out of 10 over the typical 'both teams played hard' chorus from most athletes.

He's probably the type, like many of us, who will think about that response for long after the interview and come up with the perfect way to verbalize It 2 hours later even though he tripped over his words in the moment.

Re: Kyrie's a Trip. (INTP)
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2017, 05:49:02 AM »

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Thank you for the link, it was very informative.

I think I fall under the same category as Kyrie Irving.

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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2017, 06:02:03 AM »

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Thank you for the link, it was very informative.

I think I fall under the same category as Kyrie Irving.

Well of course it's dangerous to diagnose anyone -including yourself!- with these if you're not a licensed psychologist but the Meyers Briggs Test does a pretty fair job of introducing you to the concepts.

What you get will largely depend on kind of mood you were in when you took the test. The first time I took it I got INTP, but when I took it again a week later I got INFP. Unsatisfied with thinking of myself as a "mediator" I took it again and as a self-fulfilling prophecy I entered in all the answers that would get me back to INTP.

Clearly my third test should have been thrown out altogether for the inherent bias that I showed while taking it but in general it's good to know what some of differences in the personality archetypes.

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« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2017, 07:17:06 AM »

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I don't have a license but is it dangerous for me to diagnose Grayson Allen as a trip?

Re: Kyrie's a Trip. (INTP)
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2017, 07:18:41 AM »

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Just a caution of Briggs Myers typing:

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MBTI exhibits significant psychometric deficiencies, notably including poor validity (i.e. not measuring what it purports to measure) and poor reliability (giving different results for the same person on different occasions).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers%E2%80%93Briggs_Type_Indicator

I always get the same results on these I am an INTJ, so they are reliable with me.   In my job field we use these to type people for vocational fits.   Clinically it would be hard to type
 and ethically wrong to type someone without knowing them or giving them an assessment
.  Now most are not bound by ethics codes.



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« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2017, 07:20:35 AM »

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...When you heard the somewhat disjointed hodgepodge of vocabulary that make up his answers at times it's easy to raise your eyebrows(my favorite was when he said something like 'my intent was exactly my intention') but what I like about him is that even if his response isn't fully developed its coming from a deeply introspective place. I'll take this guy 10 times out of 10 over the typical 'both teams played hard' chorus from most athletes.

He's probably the type, like many of us, who will think about that response for long after the interview and come up with the perfect way to verbalize It 2 hours later even though he tripped over his words in the moment.
Yes, he came up with some strange sentence construction and poor syntax, but his thoughtfulness was very obvious.  I've seen/heard a lot worse command of English from athletes.

Overall, I was pretty impressed.  You can tell he is breathing fresh air in this new environment and getting away from LeBron is going to be great for him.  He made it clear that he accomplished everything he could have hoped for in Cleveland (3 trips to finals, 1 ring), but that he also had some growing up to do, joining the team at age 19. Now he is ready for a new challenge which is a very healthy attitude for an ambitious person.

I took the Meyers-Briggs twice, 10 years apart and got exactly the same score, ISTJ.

I wouldn't speculate on Kyrie's M-B score without having him take the test.

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« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2017, 07:29:27 AM »

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I wouldn't speculate on anyone's Meyers-Briggs personality type because well, it's kinda bogus...

https://youtu.be/_NQqSnkI32A

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I got ENTJ. Is that bad?
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« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2017, 08:28:54 AM »

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I got ENTJ. Is that bad?
Yeah, it's bad.  You have no life, no future.  Just give up and move to a desert island.   ;D

There is no such thing as "good" or "bad".  It is personality trait typing. It helps you understand your tendencies, your general approach to problems and situations, and your reaction to situations.  It's all good!

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« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2017, 08:30:20 AM »

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I got ENTJ. Is that bad?
Yeah, it's bad.  You have no life, no future.  Just give up and move to a desert island.   ;D

There is no such thing as "good" or "bad".  It is personality trait typing. It helps you understand your tendencies, your general approach to problems and situations, and your reaction to situations.  It's all good!
Apparently I'm in the same category as Steve Jobs lol. Now that's why I got burnt irl haha.
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