Was Ainge worried that LeBron and Kyrie would patch things up?

[the TRUTH]

When I first saw the terms of the deal, I was upset and completely against it. Now that I've had a chance to think over the details, though, I'm sort of in the middle. Two unknown issues that will determine how this deal is viewed down the road are what ends up happening with the Nets pick and whether this makes it more or less likely that LeBron stays in Cleveland.

One thought that keeps coming to me is that it's possible that Ainge felt like Irving and James would potentially patch things up, the Cavs stay intact, potentially win the title in 2018 (or come very close to it), and LeBron decides to stay in Cleveland. If that was Ainge's thought process and he had every reason to have that concern, then this move makes a lot more sense to me. In that case, we arguably improve both in the short term and the long term, and the Cavs potentially fade to black.

Otherwise, the Cavs had zero leverage here, and I have a hard time believing that the Cavs would've walked away if we'd insisted on some sort of protection on the Brooklyn pick or even tried to include another pick instead. Assuming the Cavs had decided they absolutely had to trade Irving away, how many other teams could've beaten our deal even if the pick was top-5 protected? I'd love to somehow find out the other offers we were competing against.

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No. Woj said kyrie told cavs ownership fixing the relationship wasn't a question. He was 100% dead set on being traded. They were rumors they'd be violent against each other (more of lebron wanted to kick his you know what)


The question is whether ainge knew kyrie was 100% set locked on being traded. I'd say he did

[the TRUTH]

No. Woj said kyrie told cavs ownership fixing the relationship wasn't a question. He was 100% dead set on being traded. They were rumors they'd be violent against each other (more of lebron wanted to kick his you know what)


The question is whether ainge knew kyrie was 100% set locked on being traded. I'd say he did

Was all of that reported tonight? I'd heard those things in the past few weeks, but wondered if it was possible that behind the scenes in recent days, there was a realistic chance of LeBron and Kyrie patching things up.

If what you say is correct, then I guess the big question becomes what other teams were offering - in other words, what the C's were competing against in the quest to get Irving. If Kyrie staying in Cleveland was completely out of the picture, I have a hard time believing any other team could have beaten our offer even if we protected the Nets pick (top 2, top 3, top 5 - whatever).

If I'm a member of the NBA media, my number one mission right now is to find out what other offers were available to the Cavs.

[CelticsElite]

No. Woj said kyrie told cavs ownership fixing the relationship wasn't a question. He was 100% dead set on being traded. They were rumors they'd be violent against each other (more of lebron wanted to kick his you know what)


The question is whether ainge knew kyrie was 100% set locked on being traded. I'd say he did

Was all of that reported tonight? I'd heard those things in the past few weeks, but wondered if it was possible that behind the scenes in recent days, there was a realistic chance of LeBron and Kyrie patching things up.

If what you say is correct, then I guess the big question becomes what other teams were offering - in other words, what the C's were competing against in the quest to get Irving. If Kyrie staying in Cleveland was completely out of the picture, I have a hard time believing any other team could have beaten our offer even if we protected the Nets pick (top 2, top 3, top 5 - whatever).

If I'm a member of the NBA media, my number one mission right now is to find out what other offers were available to the Cavs.

woj reported the first part tonight that kyrie told the ownership that the relationship can't be fixed, irreparable.

I think I saw the other teams offers were reported but I forgot them

was surprised to hear the nuggets didn't want to give up Jamal murray+ gary Harris for irving. Murray and Harris are both fine players but its hard to not pull the trigger there

I'll look to see what they were

[the TRUTH]

No. Woj said kyrie told cavs ownership fixing the relationship wasn't a question. He was 100% dead set on being traded. They were rumors they'd be violent against each other (more of lebron wanted to kick his you know what)


The question is whether ainge knew kyrie was 100% set locked on being traded. I'd say he did

Was all of that reported tonight? I'd heard those things in the past few weeks, but wondered if it was possible that behind the scenes in recent days, there was a realistic chance of LeBron and Kyrie patching things up.

If what you say is correct, then I guess the big question becomes what other teams were offering - in other words, what the C's were competing against in the quest to get Irving. If Kyrie staying in Cleveland was completely out of the picture, I have a hard time believing any other team could have beaten our offer even if we protected the Nets pick (top 2, top 3, top 5 - whatever).

If I'm a member of the NBA media, my number one mission right now is to find out what other offers were available to the Cavs.

woj reported the first part tonight that kyrie told the ownership that the relationship can't be fixed, irreparable.

I think I saw the other teams offers were reported but I forgot them

was surprised to hear the nuggets didn't want to give up Jamal murray+ gary Harris for irving. Murray and Harris are both fine players but its hard to not pull the trigger there

I'll look to see what they were

Thanks for the info!