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attention should be frontcourt
« on: June 05, 2017, 09:02:23 AM »

Offline rollie mass

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It would be nice to have a front court with length ,vertical and quick twitch.
I don't know how badly that nose situation was but Jerebko lost his shooting touch and motor-he ended his season on a very poor note,
Amir should be gone and is a sorry sight for his age
Zeller outside his first season has lost his touch mid range and his flip hooks right and left
-kelly can't rebound and is clumsy
MATTER OF FACT, I DON'T SEE NOW, HOW WE ONE A GAME WITH THAT FRONT COURT(exaggeration)
I cringed, when Jerebko tried to drive and finish
Amir was awkward offensively,
Zeller ineffectual and Kelly was clumsy often traveling in the lane while looking to bail out and unable to finish.
Brad is a genius to have managed this collection
Danny you got your monies worth,Clean house--
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Re: attention should be frontcourt
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2017, 09:10:03 AM »

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It would be nice to have a front court with length ,vertical and quick twitch.

Yes, it would. It would also be nice if I won the PowerBall this week. :)

We know that Zizic and Yabu are coming and they can both offer front court help. But they're also rookies and we can't rely on either to play major minutes this year. Amir looks shot. KO is probably gone in FA. Zeller can play but you want him deep off the bench. JJ looked like he hit a wall this season. Yeah, it's not a great group and we need someone who can step in and play 25-30 minutes a game.

That's why I think either Bradley or Crowder is gone this offseason (and possibly Smart) in a deal for a big man. If Hayward isn't coming in FA there's a couple of guys we might make a run at in FA, the better deals will probably revolve around a trade. I few days ago I proposed a Bradley for Favors deal that would need to involve a 3rd team but I believe that's the way Danny will go (though it may be for someone else). It makes sense from a cap standpoint and to get some value on Bradley before we lose him in FA next year.
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« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2017, 09:36:43 AM »

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KO is going to command a contract of $15 million or so. He isn't worth it and the Celtics should renounce him and keep Bradley to open max space for a free agent.

Then, if I were Ainfe, I would put the full court press on to sign Blake Griffin. He slips in seemlessly into the frontcourt with Horford and helps our rebounding ability immediately while giving us our second offensive option we have needed so much.

Then with the room exception and vet min contracts I think you target Aron Baynes, Lavoy Allen, Christiano Felicio...players like that.

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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2017, 12:05:21 PM »

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KO is going to command a contract of $15 million or so. He isn't worth it and the Celtics should renounce him and keep Bradley to open max space for a free agent.

Then, if I were Ainfe, I would put the full court press on to sign Blake Griffin. He slips in seemlessly into the frontcourt with Horford and helps our rebounding ability immediately while giving us our second offensive option we have needed so much.

Then with the room exception and vet min contracts I think you target Aron Baynes, Lavoy Allen, Christiano Felicio...players like that.

TP Nick.

I know why there's so much Hayward love on this board but if we're going to roll the dice, Griffin fills far more of a need. It's a major gamble given his injury history but we could compete with IT/Smart, AB/Fultz, Crowder/Brown, Griffin and Horford. With Blake you have someone who can physically match up against Lebron and I like our odds in a series with him.

Of course, the risk is that if he's injured you shut the Championship window until (hopefully) Fultz, Brown and Brooklyn's 2018 matures. Of course, that's no sure thing.
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2017, 12:09:57 PM »

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What...Kelly doesn't have quick twitch!


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« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2017, 12:33:55 PM »

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What...Kelly doesn't have quick twitch!

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« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2017, 12:39:11 PM »

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I think that OPs premise starting point isn't optimal. Attention should be on what players we need to beat CLE and GSW.
Why?
1. We can get a player, for example, of Hassan Whitesides (exp. Brook, Vuch, Monroe) stature, who are by all means good centers, and they could get played off the court versus those teams. We have been doing that at times for the past 2 years to Witeside with fine success. GSW would dissect him. They make those bigs defend in space and just torch them.
2. While I agree that we need a big, IMO we definitely need a scoring wing, two-way player more. You can classify that as frontcourt, but I see him (Exp. Hayward, PG13) more as a perimiter threat with the ability to handle the ball. You can't have enough of these players in this or any future era. Units GSW and CLE put on the floor demand 4 of those types of players.
3. You play with the hand you are dealt. Meaning, that by far the best 2 moves C's can pull of right now are drafting Fultz and signing Hayward with some roster cuts. How Danny deals with those cuts will be determined by the market, meaning if he can't get a big that can defend elite finalists units, he shouldn't force it as there are other more valuable options. We can operate under the assumption that DA will solve this issues in the top 80th percentile of GMs. Market will say, Danny will play.
4. We can always buy veteran meat (exp. Deadmon, Gibson) with the exceptions to keep us rested during the regular season. When weaker teams play traditional 2 bigs more. Also we get a prospect big in the proccess in the form of Ante Žižić.

Lets get players that we can match up with Lebrons, Durants, Klays, Kyries and Currys. That is what we need to get to the banner number 18.
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« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2017, 01:04:56 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2017, 01:09:45 PM »

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There's a flip side to the notion that a traditional big man is out of place in today's game. If you get a big man with an offensive game (hoping eventually for Ayton), GSW can't match up with him, either. You slow them down and try force them to play a style other than they're accustomed to. What it entails is you can't switch. It's not like we'd be any worse off if we had Hassan Whiteside switched on Curry instead of Al Horford on Curry.

CLE isn't getting rolled by GSW because of Trenton Thompson and bad matchups, they're losing because Lebron, Irving, and Smith are getting outplayed by Durant and Curry.