Danny from 2014 :would trade for player in last year of contract(Westbrook)

[rondohondo]

"Danny Ainge just told us that he would be open to trading for a high caliber player in their last year without an agreement to an extension."

Via 2014 potential Kevin Love deal with Minny

So if he would do it for Love, why wouldn't he for a top 10 player like Westbrook?

I think he would rather trade for a star like Cousins who has a few years left on his contract, but you gotta strike while the deal is there. Plus you get his bird rights.

[CoachBo]

It is done throughout professional sports. No reason why it can't be done here.

Just get an idea if they're open to an extension. There will be your answer whether to do it.

[BudweiserCeltic]

"Danny Ainge just told us that he would be open to trading for a high caliber player in their last year without an agreement to an extension."

Via 2014 potential Kevin Love deal with Minny

So if he would do it for Love, why wouldn't he for a top 10 player like Westbrook?

I think he would rather trade for a star like Cousins who has a few years left on his contract, but you gotta strike while the deal is there. Plus you get his bird rights.

I think keeping Kevin Love with the C's would've been more probable than keeping someone like Westbrook.

I didn't agree with his assessment back then though, but I understand his thinking (and not entirely opposed to it). But now that we have Horford in hand, there's no need to make these kind of risk moves. Now you can easily pitch to Boston's attractive situation, something that was previously merely hypothetical.

[BudweiserCeltic]

It is done throughout professional sports. No reason why it can't be done here.

Just get an idea if they're open to an extension. There will be your answer whether to do it.

No one is open to an extension, particularly at this talent level, no one.

One thing to consider is a renegotiation of contract + extension afterwards, but that requires cap space (and I'm not up-to-date on all the rules that go with it).

That said, even with the above scenario, none of these mega stars are taking a non-option year after this season. Next year is when contracts will be at their highest between these 3 years. That's why Durant only went with 1 + 1, like LeBron is doing as well, taking advantage of big cap jumps to improve their MAX.

[footey]

The problem is this: Back then,  deals with one year player options were not common. Now, with the cap seemingly increasing significantly over the near future, the extra year you give a guy by having Bird rights is not as valuable as it once was, since they negotiate the right to opt out after 1 or 2 years.

[loco_91]

Westbrook would be a massive coup. I do not understand why some people don't want him.

[BudweiserCeltic]

Westbrook would be a massive coup. I do not understand why some people don't want him.

Because he's leaving after this season. Unless you think he can guarantee a championship this year...

[CoachBo]

It is done throughout professional sports. No reason why it can't be done here.

Just get an idea if they're open to an extension. There will be your answer whether to do it.

No one is open to an extension, particularly at this talent level, no one.

One thing to consider is a renegotiation of contract + extension afterwards, but that requires cap space (and I'm not up-to-date on all the rules that go with it).

That said, even with the above scenario, none of these mega stars are taking a non-option year after this season. Next year is when contracts will be at their highest between these 3 years. That's why Durant only went with 1 + 1, like LeBron is doing as well, taking advantage of big cap jumps to improve their MAX.

History, throughout all of professional sports, suggests that you are quite wrong. Mark McGwire, Matt Holliday are just a couple of quick examples from baseball that come to mind.

However, if Westbrook and his agent say flatly, "We're not going to resign with you," then you don't do a deal.

What I have seen about his preferences, however, suggests he would be quite open to Boston. If the answer is, "We would certainly consider an extension with you," then you make the move. He won't sign one this year, for sure. But that historically has not stopped major moves in the past - if the player is open to an extension at year's end.

I don't expect that Danny is pursuing Westbrook, however. It's Cousins.

[Moranis]

Westbrook would be a massive coup. I do not understand why some people don't want him.

Because he's leaving after this season. Unless you think he can guarantee a championship this year...

no guarantee he is leaving

[Csfan1984]

It's all about price in the end. If Westbrook doesn't agree to extend how much can you give up vs if he does? That is where the risk is. And that is only part of it. A team has to also take into account scheme in which case Westbrook is kind of a ball dominate player. I'd think with him you just stack up on 3pt threats and get an athletic big. That isn't the C's make up at all right now. I actually see Hawks as a better fit right now if they could flip Schoder and Milsap for Westbrook.

Westbrook, Korv, Baz, Hump, Howard.

[BudweiserCeltic]

It is done throughout professional sports. No reason why it can't be done here.

Just get an idea if they're open to an extension. There will be your answer whether to do it.

No one is open to an extension, particularly at this talent level, no one.

One thing to consider is a renegotiation of contract + extension afterwards, but that requires cap space (and I'm not up-to-date on all the rules that go with it).

That said, even with the above scenario, none of these mega stars are taking a non-option year after this season. Next year is when contracts will be at their highest between these 3 years. That's why Durant only went with 1 + 1, like LeBron is doing as well, taking advantage of big cap jumps to improve their MAX.

History, throughout all of professional sports, suggests that you are quite wrong. Mark McGwire, Matt Holliday are just a couple of quick examples from baseball that come to mind.

However, if Westbrook and his agent say flatly, "We're not going to resign with you," then you don't do a deal.

What I have seen about his preferences, however, suggests he would be quite open to Boston. If the answer is, "We would certainly consider an extension with you," then you make the move. He won't sign one this year, for sure. But that historically has not stopped major moves in the past - if the player is open to an extension at year's end.

I don't expect that Danny is pursuing Westbrook, however. It's Cousins.

The problem here is that you're not comprehending the monetary implications of him accepting an extension as limited by the NBA CBA and what will be available with the cap increase next year. No one of his talent level will accept an extension from any team anywhere this year. None.

I'm not dismissing that he might be open to Boston, I just think there's an even greater pull from a team in LA for him. Fits his personality, will allow him to be the unquestioned man in HIS city, and let's be honest here, he loves the flashiness that LA provides. Yes, the Lakers currently suck, but he's the type of personality that seems to me would love the challenge of being the man there for example. They already have a young and promising crop there to build on. I have no question that he'll strongly consider them and really won't hesitate to go there. Don't dismiss the Clippers either.

The pull towards that is strong enough for me to risk valuable assets on the only guarantee being 1 year of his services, without factoring in other opportunities other teams may present.

Another player I might be more open to it, but not Westbrook. I wouldn't bet for him staying.

[vjcsmoke]

Yes to Westbrook as a free agent next year.  No to trading major assets for him as a 1 year rental.  It's pretty logical.  You don't gut your team for 1 year of Westbrook.

[LarBrd33]

You do it if there's a hush hush agreement under the table.   But I still have very little interest in trading for Westbrook.  He wouldn't help as much as people think.   He's an overrated inefficient ball hog that is probably going to lead OKC to the Lottery this year if he stays. 

That said, I'm open to signing him as a Free agent.  We'd just have to move some guards and change the team so that it's prepared for another Rondo-esque ball-dominant player who can't shoot.  That means Stevens would have to adapt his system away from pace-and-space and more to a 1 man show.  You'd lose a little defense.  The offense will take a step back.   We still wouldn't have a guy who can close out games (Westbrook is bottom 3 in the entire league in FG% during crunch time)... but he'd be fun to watch.

I stand by my belief that if you kept this team as-is, Khris mIddleton would do more to help us win than adding Russell Westbrook.   Middleton would fit right in and address needs.  Westbrook would be a bad fit and wouldn't address needs.  You'd need to shake up the roster and system significantly and even then, there's evidence that suggests a Westbrook-lead team will struggle to make the playoffs.