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Re: Yes, we need a superstar, But....
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2016, 05:09:46 PM »

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I think the C's need a "go to scorer" type who can create his own shot. Right now, IT and Turner are the only players on the team that can do that and both have their limitations late in games (IT due to his height and Turner for his lack of 3pt shot).

oh no they definitely need a "go to scorer". I'm just saying if they can't get free agents like Greg Monroe to even visit, and continue to not be able to make a trade that brings them that "go to scorer, and they insist on being a team just good enough to be in the playoffs...and be a team that leans on the outside shot a lot. then they should go get an actual shooter.

does a shooter get us past Cleveland or Toronto? probably not. but who knows in Stevens system it might. he said before the game they like to have the defense defend multiple actions.

I've just seen enough of these games with this team where the entire team can't hit a jumper for long stretches. it's easier getting a shooter than a superstar/go to scorer, so why not? 

Re: Yes, we need a superstar, But....
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2016, 05:20:41 PM »

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I think the C's need a "go to scorer" type who can create his own shot. Right now, IT and Turner are the only players on the team that can do that and both have their limitations late in games (IT due to his height and Turner for his lack of 3pt shot).

oh no they definitely need a "go to scorer". I'm just saying if they can't get free agents like Greg Monroe to even visit, and continue to not be able to make a trade that brings them that "go to scorer, and they insist on being a team just good enough to be in the playoffs...and be a team that leans on the outside shot a lot. then they should go get an actual shooter.

does a shooter get us past Cleveland or Toronto? probably not. but who knows in Stevens system it might. he said before the game they like to have the defense defend multiple actions.

I've just seen enough of these games with this team where the entire team can't hit a jumper for long stretches. it's easier getting a shooter than a superstar/go to scorer, so why not?
The Greg Monroe point doesnt make any sense anymore.

It literally is a point in our favor.

Re: Yes, we need a superstar, But....
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2016, 05:43:35 PM »

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I think the C's need a "go to scorer" type who can create his own shot. Right now, IT and Turner are the only players on the team that can do that and both have their limitations late in games (IT due to his height and Turner for his lack of 3pt shot).

oh no they definitely need a "go to scorer". I'm just saying if they can't get free agents like Greg Monroe to even visit, and continue to not be able to make a trade that brings them that "go to scorer, and they insist on being a team just good enough to be in the playoffs...and be a team that leans on the outside shot a lot. then they should go get an actual shooter.

does a shooter get us past Cleveland or Toronto? probably not. but who knows in Stevens system it might. he said before the game they like to have the defense defend multiple actions.

I've just seen enough of these games with this team where the entire team can't hit a jumper for long stretches. it's easier getting a shooter than a superstar/go to scorer, so why not?
The Greg Monroe point doesnt make any sense anymore.

It literally is a point in our favor.

why is that? what did I miss?

Re: Yes, we need a superstar, But....
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2016, 05:52:31 PM »

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I think the C's need a "go to scorer" type who can create his own shot. Right now, IT and Turner are the only players on the team that can do that and both have their limitations late in games (IT due to his height and Turner for his lack of 3pt shot).

oh no they definitely need a "go to scorer". I'm just saying if they can't get free agents like Greg Monroe to even visit, and continue to not be able to make a trade that brings them that "go to scorer, and they insist on being a team just good enough to be in the playoffs...and be a team that leans on the outside shot a lot. then they should go get an actual shooter.

does a shooter get us past Cleveland or Toronto? probably not. but who knows in Stevens system it might. he said before the game they like to have the defense defend multiple actions.

I've just seen enough of these games with this team where the entire team can't hit a jumper for long stretches. it's easier getting a shooter than a superstar/go to scorer, so why not?
The Greg Monroe point doesnt make any sense anymore.

It literally is a point in our favor.

why is that? what did I miss?
greg Monroe went to Milwaukee.
Unless you are suggesting that Jason Kidd and the great city of Milwaukee are greater draws than Brad Stevens and the city of Boston, then you must believe we lost out on Monroe because of basketball reasons. Well we are a far different and better team this year than we were last year.

We are also better than Milwaukee was last year.

Re: Yes, we need a superstar, But....
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2016, 05:58:28 PM »

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really? cuz I still don't have any confidence if AB is open that the shot has a better than good chance of falling. I still consider him just a guy that has that range. that's not a "shooter" imo.

I didn't say he was a great shooter, or even a good one.  But he is the only guy who actually plays in a "shooter" role on this team:  coming of screens, handoffs, or his own dribble for jumpshots.

Re: Yes, we need a superstar, But....
« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2016, 06:01:17 PM »

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I think the C's need a "go to scorer" type who can create his own shot. Right now, IT and Turner are the only players on the team that can do that and both have their limitations late in games (IT due to his height and Turner for his lack of 3pt shot).

They have one already in IT.

What you saw last night was the main weakness in the Celtics game:  they simply are not a good 3 point shooting team and they shoot a ton of 3s.  They need at least one more 3 point shooter who is over 40% who plays 15 mins a game, at least.

Re: Yes, we need a superstar, But....
« Reply #21 on: March 12, 2016, 06:07:27 PM »

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I think the C's need a "go to scorer" type who can create his own shot. Right now, IT and Turner are the only players on the team that can do that and both have their limitations late in games (IT due to his height and Turner for his lack of 3pt shot).

They have one already in IT.

What you saw last night was the main weakness in the Celtics game:  they simply are not a good 3 point shooting team and they shoot a ton of 3s.  They need at least one more 3 point shooter who is over 40% who plays 15 mins a game, at least.

So in other words they need KO to come back from injury.

Re: Yes, we need a superstar, But....
« Reply #22 on: March 12, 2016, 06:23:39 PM »

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I disagree, Korver is not consistent and his number would never be called when we are down on the score board in the 4th quarter. I also disagree on us needing "another" shooter. I feel like we are too trigger happy as it is. Durant can kill from the 3, but what makes him dangerous is he can also drive from the perimeter and THAT makes him a go to option. We need someone who can shoot the 3 when needed but can ALWAYS drive in the lane and absorb contact.

Re: Yes, we need a superstar, But....
« Reply #23 on: March 12, 2016, 06:23:57 PM »

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really? cuz I still don't have any confidence if AB is open that the shot has a better than good chance of falling. I still consider him just a guy that has that range. that's not a "shooter" imo.

I didn't say he was a great shooter, or even a good one.  But he is the only guy who actually plays in a "shooter" role on this team:  coming of screens, handoffs, or his own dribble for jumpshots.

ok so you admit he's playing a role better suited for an actual "shooter". exactly my point.

Re: Yes, we need a superstar, But....
« Reply #24 on: March 12, 2016, 06:30:22 PM »

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We need someone who can shoot the 3 when needed but can ALWAYS drive in the lane and absorb contact.

what's easier to get? we already settle for the outside shot. so with that in mind, is it easier to find a guy that can at least shoot? or a guy that you just described? because that sounds like a superstar/go to guy to me, and last time I checked we've been trying to find that guy you described for a few seasons now.

Re: Yes, we need a superstar, But....
« Reply #25 on: March 12, 2016, 06:40:34 PM »

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I think the C's need a "go to scorer" type who can create his own shot. Right now, IT and Turner are the only players on the team that can do that and both have their limitations late in games (IT due to his height and Turner for his lack of 3pt shot).

oh no they definitely need a "go to scorer". I'm just saying if they can't get free agents like Greg Monroe to even visit, and continue to not be able to make a trade that brings them that "go to scorer, and they insist on being a team just good enough to be in the playoffs...and be a team that leans on the outside shot a lot. then they should go get an actual shooter.

does a shooter get us past Cleveland or Toronto? probably not. but who knows in Stevens system it might. he said before the game they like to have the defense defend multiple actions.

I've just seen enough of these games with this team where the entire team can't hit a jumper for long stretches. it's easier getting a shooter than a superstar/go to scorer, so why not?
The Greg Monroe point doesnt make any sense anymore.

It literally is a point in our favor.

why is that? what did I miss?
greg Monroe went to Milwaukee.
Unless you are suggesting that Jason Kidd and the great city of Milwaukee are greater draws than Brad Stevens and the city of Boston, then you must believe we lost out on Monroe because of basketball reasons. Well we are a far different and better team this year than we were last year.

We are also better than Milwaukee was last year.

the reason Monroe chose the bucks over Boston are his own. but the notion that "we never get free agents to come here" still exists. weather you agree or not, it is a thing apparently. esp. considering we couldn't even get him to visit.

if I had to guess why he chose Mil. over Boston? he like everybody probably felt they were going to be better than Boston.

but this whole Greg Monroe discussion is for another thread, I used him as an example of us still not being able to land a free agent. you decided to focus on this for some reason.

Re: Yes, we need a superstar, But....
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2016, 07:17:28 PM »

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Re: Yes, we need a superstar, But....
« Reply #27 on: March 12, 2016, 08:26:32 PM »

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I think the C's need a "go to scorer" type who can create his own shot. Right now, IT and Turner are the only players on the team that can do that and both have their limitations late in games (IT due to his height and Turner for his lack of 3pt shot).

They have one already in IT.

What you saw last night was the main weakness in the Celtics game:  they simply are not a good 3 point shooting team and they shoot a ton of 3s.  They need at least one more 3 point shooter who is over 40% who plays 15 mins a game, at least.
IT is having a great season but he struggles against longer defenders. They still lack playmaker on this team.