Is our "3 and D" SG someone other than Bradley?

[sawick48]

Thought I've been considering for a while, and it's not something that's going to light the world on fire, but are we better off turning Smart into a full fledged wing rather than making him fit a pg role that he doesn't seem suited for in an NBA that lives off the pick and rolls?  I know his shooting numbers thus far leave somehting to be desired, but I think we can all agree that based on what we watch everynight, he has potential to be able to shoot and make 3s at a decent clip as he progresses.

Considering he's already taller than bradley by a few inches, and about 40lbs heavier (while also being 5 years younger) am I insane for thinking he's a prototypical 3 and D 2guard in the making?  He's arguably all ready just as ferocious defensively, and as he gets older and adds experience/muscle you think he'd be able to develop into the type of guy that can guard 3 positions (including all but the most elite athletes of all the swing forwards). 

I know Hayward basically ate him up off the bounce last night but let's not let one game cloud the judgment of what he may be better suited for.  Smart does have a handle (just not one suited for the pnr), he's a decent rebounder for a guard, his defense already is well above average, and with work his stroke can be deadly from the corner/elbow 3s. 

I for one wouldn't be sad at all this summer to see us unload Bradley and try to bring in another true pg and leave those minutes AB abandons for Marcus to grow with.  Am I nuts (about this, specifically.  Dear God don't answer that question speaking generally)?

[Bucketgetter]

Thought I've been considering for a while, and it's not something that's going to light the world on fire, but are we better off turning Smart into a full fledged wing rather than making him fit a pg role that he doesn't seem suited for in an NBA that lives off the pick and rolls?  I know his shooting numbers thus far leave somehting to be desired, but I think we can all agree that based on what we watch everynight, he has potential to be able to shoot and make 3s at a decent clip as he progresses.

Considering he's already taller than bradley by a few inches, and about 40lbs heavier (while also being 5 years younger) am I insane for thinking he's a prototypical 3 and D 2guard in the making?  He's arguably all ready just as ferocious defensively, and as he gets older and adds experience/muscle you think he'd be able to develop into the type of guy that can guard 3 positions (including all but the most elite athletes of all the swing forwards). 

I know Hayward basically ate him up off the bounce last night but let's not let one game cloud the judgment of what he may be better suited for.  Smart does have a handle (just not one suited for the pnr), he's a decent rebounder for a guard, his defense already is well above average, and with work his stroke can be deadly from the corner/elbow 3s. 

I for one wouldn't be sad at all this summer to see us unload Bradley and try to bring in another true pg and leave those minutes AB abandons for Marcus to grow with.  Am I nuts (about this, specifically.  Dear God don't answer that question speaking generally)?

Yes. How can he be a prototypical 3 and D 2 guard if he doesn't have the 3? That makes him a prototypical D guard.

[Denis998]

Ever since he has started to post up more and guarding the bigger 3's on the floor, I see Smart as more of a 2 or 3 in this league. Maybe the 2 spot to preserve his health.

[Future Celtics Owner]

I think Smart will keep developing his offensive game and pg skills every year. But one of the surest ways to speed up his development would be to trade certain players and get him the reps at pg. I'm not saying this is what we should do, just that it's the surest way unless Smart makes a jump while sharing ball duties and real pg duties.

I would love to see Smart exclusively playing the point and handling the pg duties on defense and offense.....he'd eat up the other teams pg and prob get way more steals obv.

[Future Celtics Owner]

We could use some luck.

James Young. If he makes a jump that would be so great.

[Dino Pitino]

Thought I've been considering for a while, and it's not something that's going to light the world on fire, but are we better off turning Smart into a full fledged wing rather than making him fit a pg role that he doesn't seem suited for in an NBA that lives off the pick and rolls?  I know his shooting numbers thus far leave somehting to be desired, but I think we can all agree that based on what we watch everynight, he has potential to be able to shoot and make 3s at a decent clip as he progresses.

Considering he's already taller than bradley by a few inches, and about 40lbs heavier (while also being 5 years younger) am I insane for thinking he's a prototypical 3 and D 2guard in the making?  He's arguably all ready just as ferocious defensively, and as he gets older and adds experience/muscle you think he'd be able to develop into the type of guy that can guard 3 positions (including all but the most elite athletes of all the swing forwards). 

I know Hayward basically ate him up off the bounce last night but let's not let one game cloud the judgment of what he may be better suited for.  Smart does have a handle (just not one suited for the pnr), he's a decent rebounder for a guard, his defense already is well above average, and with work his stroke can be deadly from the corner/elbow 3s. 

I for one wouldn't be sad at all this summer to see us unload Bradley and try to bring in another true pg and leave those minutes AB abandons for Marcus to grow with.  Am I nuts (about this, specifically.  Dear God don't answer that question speaking generally)?

Yes. How can he be a prototypical 3 and D 2 guard if he doesn't have the 3? That makes him a prototypical D guard.

Have you been in a coma for a month?

[Bucketgetter]

Thought I've been considering for a while, and it's not something that's going to light the world on fire, but are we better off turning Smart into a full fledged wing rather than making him fit a pg role that he doesn't seem suited for in an NBA that lives off the pick and rolls?  I know his shooting numbers thus far leave somehting to be desired, but I think we can all agree that based on what we watch everynight, he has potential to be able to shoot and make 3s at a decent clip as he progresses.

Considering he's already taller than bradley by a few inches, and about 40lbs heavier (while also being 5 years younger) am I insane for thinking he's a prototypical 3 and D 2guard in the making?  He's arguably all ready just as ferocious defensively, and as he gets older and adds experience/muscle you think he'd be able to develop into the type of guy that can guard 3 positions (including all but the most elite athletes of all the swing forwards). 

I know Hayward basically ate him up off the bounce last night but let's not let one game cloud the judgment of what he may be better suited for.  Smart does have a handle (just not one suited for the pnr), he's a decent rebounder for a guard, his defense already is well above average, and with work his stroke can be deadly from the corner/elbow 3s. 

I for one wouldn't be sad at all this summer to see us unload Bradley and try to bring in another true pg and leave those minutes AB abandons for Marcus to grow with.  Am I nuts (about this, specifically.  Dear God don't answer that question speaking generally)?

Yes. How can he be a prototypical 3 and D 2 guard if he doesn't have the 3? That makes him a prototypical D guard.

Have you been in a coma for a month?

Oh yeah, because shooting 27% from 3 in january and 37% in a whole 7 games in february makes him Ray Allen! Our 3 point troubles are gone guys, we have Marcus Smart! Oh, you must be the guy who started the thread about how Lillard is better than Curry. Of course, because Lillard had one great game! Looks like you're permanently in a coma (or just a little slow).

[Dino Pitino]

Thought I've been considering for a while, and it's not something that's going to light the world on fire, but are we better off turning Smart into a full fledged wing rather than making him fit a pg role that he doesn't seem suited for in an NBA that lives off the pick and rolls?  I know his shooting numbers thus far leave somehting to be desired, but I think we can all agree that based on what we watch everynight, he has potential to be able to shoot and make 3s at a decent clip as he progresses.

Considering he's already taller than bradley by a few inches, and about 40lbs heavier (while also being 5 years younger) am I insane for thinking he's a prototypical 3 and D 2guard in the making?  He's arguably all ready just as ferocious defensively, and as he gets older and adds experience/muscle you think he'd be able to develop into the type of guy that can guard 3 positions (including all but the most elite athletes of all the swing forwards). 

I know Hayward basically ate him up off the bounce last night but let's not let one game cloud the judgment of what he may be better suited for.  Smart does have a handle (just not one suited for the pnr), he's a decent rebounder for a guard, his defense already is well above average, and with work his stroke can be deadly from the corner/elbow 3s. 

I for one wouldn't be sad at all this summer to see us unload Bradley and try to bring in another true pg and leave those minutes AB abandons for Marcus to grow with.  Am I nuts (about this, specifically.  Dear God don't answer that question speaking generally)?

Yes. How can he be a prototypical 3 and D 2 guard if he doesn't have the 3? That makes him a prototypical D guard.

Have you been in a coma for a month?

Oh yeah, because shooting 27% from 3 in january and 37% in a whole 7 games in february makes him Ray Allen! Our 3 point troubles are gone guys, we have Marcus Smart! Oh, you must be the guy who started the thread about how Lillard is better than Curry. Of course, because Lillard had one great game! Looks like you're permanently in a coma (or just a little slow).

Congratulations on discovering the "splits" section in player profiles. But we're not talking about a single game. We're not talking about 7 games. It's been 12 games. That might not sound like a lot, but it's actually 12% of the number of games he's played in his career, and 34% of the games he's played this year. In those 12 games, he's averaging 4.9 attempted threes a game, and he's making 42.4% of them. And those aren't just any 12 games, they're the last 12 games, i.e., it's a trend. He's a 21-year-old who's improving. He's quickly developing the ability to hit threes. You said it was insane to think Smart is a prototypical 3 and D SG in the making. .

[mgent]

Thought I've been considering for a while, and it's not something that's going to light the world on fire, but are we better off turning Smart into a full fledged wing rather than making him fit a pg role that he doesn't seem suited for in an NBA that lives off the pick and rolls?  I know his shooting numbers thus far leave somehting to be desired, but I think we can all agree that based on what we watch everynight, he has potential to be able to shoot and make 3s at a decent clip as he progresses.

Considering he's already taller than bradley by a few inches, and about 40lbs heavier (while also being 5 years younger) am I insane for thinking he's a prototypical 3 and D 2guard in the making?  He's arguably all ready just as ferocious defensively, and as he gets older and adds experience/muscle you think he'd be able to develop into the type of guy that can guard 3 positions (including all but the most elite athletes of all the swing forwards). 

I know Hayward basically ate him up off the bounce last night but let's not let one game cloud the judgment of what he may be better suited for.  Smart does have a handle (just not one suited for the pnr), he's a decent rebounder for a guard, his defense already is well above average, and with work his stroke can be deadly from the corner/elbow 3s. 

I for one wouldn't be sad at all this summer to see us unload Bradley and try to bring in another true pg and leave those minutes AB abandons for Marcus to grow with.  Am I nuts (about this, specifically.  Dear God don't answer that question speaking generally)?

Yes. How can he be a prototypical 3 and D 2 guard if he doesn't have the 3? That makes him a prototypical D guard.

Have you been in a coma for a month?

Oh yeah, because shooting 27% from 3 in january and 37% in a whole 7 games in february makes him Ray Allen! Our 3 point troubles are gone guys, we have Marcus Smart! Oh, you must be the guy who started the thread about how Lillard is better than Curry. Of course, because Lillard had one great game! Looks like you're permanently in a coma (or just a little slow).

In the last 3 weeks (9 games) Smart has averaged 2.2 made 3s per game and has made 44% of his 3s.

That's extremely Ray Allen like.  It doesn't "make" him our Ray Allen unless he continues it.  And no, I'm not saying that's likely.

But given that for the whole month of January, Smart had just come back from a fairly long injury where he couldn't do any conditioning, I'm not sure why you think January is more cite-worthy than February.

It's not "likely" that Smart will become a good/great 3 point shooter given the past month, but the past month has shown he'll likely be at least serviceable.

[Chris22]

Smart is a two guard.
I would like to see Rozier back up the point.

[Bucketgetter]

Thought I've been considering for a while, and it's not something that's going to light the world on fire, but are we better off turning Smart into a full fledged wing rather than making him fit a pg role that he doesn't seem suited for in an NBA that lives off the pick and rolls?  I know his shooting numbers thus far leave somehting to be desired, but I think we can all agree that based on what we watch everynight, he has potential to be able to shoot and make 3s at a decent clip as he progresses.

Considering he's already taller than bradley by a few inches, and about 40lbs heavier (while also being 5 years younger) am I insane for thinking he's a prototypical 3 and D 2guard in the making?  He's arguably all ready just as ferocious defensively, and as he gets older and adds experience/muscle you think he'd be able to develop into the type of guy that can guard 3 positions (including all but the most elite athletes of all the swing forwards). 

I know Hayward basically ate him up off the bounce last night but let's not let one game cloud the judgment of what he may be better suited for.  Smart does have a handle (just not one suited for the pnr), he's a decent rebounder for a guard, his defense already is well above average, and with work his stroke can be deadly from the corner/elbow 3s. 

I for one wouldn't be sad at all this summer to see us unload Bradley and try to bring in another true pg and leave those minutes AB abandons for Marcus to grow with.  Am I nuts (about this, specifically.  Dear God don't answer that question speaking generally)?

Yes. How can he be a prototypical 3 and D 2 guard if he doesn't have the 3? That makes him a prototypical D guard.

Have you been in a coma for a month?

Oh yeah, because shooting 27% from 3 in january and 37% in a whole 7 games in february makes him Ray Allen! Our 3 point troubles are gone guys, we have Marcus Smart! Oh, you must be the guy who started the thread about how Lillard is better than Curry. Of course, because Lillard had one great game! Looks like you're permanently in a coma (or just a little slow).

Congratulations on waking up, and congratulations on discovering the "splits" section in player profiles. But we're not talking about a single game. We're not talking about 7 games. It's been 12 games. That might not sound like a lot, but it's actually 12% of the number of games he's played in his career, and 34% of the games he's played this year. In those 12 games, he's averaging 4.9 attempted threes a game, and he's making 42.4% of them. And those aren't just any 12 games, they're the last 12 games, i.e., it's a trend. He's a 21-year-old who's improving. He's quickly developing the ability to hit threes. You said it was insane to think Smart is a prototypical 3 and D SG in the making. YOU WERE WRONG.

I won't argue with someone who uses 12 games to figure out that now Smart will develop into a sharpshooter. You probably thought Jeremy Lin was the next CP3 in 2012. Anyone can get hot for literally 12 games, even an awful shooter like Smart. I hope he does develop into a serviceable 3 point threat. Right now he is not, and he is most definitely not a prototypical 3 and D 2 guard. Back to your original question of if you are insane, the answer is a resounding yes. You spend way too much time on elaborate posts that don't make sense. If I was you, I would take up a new hobby instead of watching and trying to talk about basketball. Your mind just doesn't process it well, I guess.

[alldaboston]

Thought I've been considering for a while, and it's not something that's going to light the world on fire, but are we better off turning Smart into a full fledged wing rather than making him fit a pg role that he doesn't seem suited for in an NBA that lives off the pick and rolls?  I know his shooting numbers thus far leave somehting to be desired, but I think we can all agree that based on what we watch everynight, he has potential to be able to shoot and make 3s at a decent clip as he progresses.

Considering he's already taller than bradley by a few inches, and about 40lbs heavier (while also being 5 years younger) am I insane for thinking he's a prototypical 3 and D 2guard in the making?  He's arguably all ready just as ferocious defensively, and as he gets older and adds experience/muscle you think he'd be able to develop into the type of guy that can guard 3 positions (including all but the most elite athletes of all the swing forwards). 

I know Hayward basically ate him up off the bounce last night but let's not let one game cloud the judgment of what he may be better suited for.  Smart does have a handle (just not one suited for the pnr), he's a decent rebounder for a guard, his defense already is well above average, and with work his stroke can be deadly from the corner/elbow 3s. 

I for one wouldn't be sad at all this summer to see us unload Bradley and try to bring in another true pg and leave those minutes AB abandons for Marcus to grow with.  Am I nuts (about this, specifically.  Dear God don't answer that question speaking generally)?

Yes. How can he be a prototypical 3 and D 2 guard if he doesn't have the 3? That makes him a prototypical D guard.

Have you been in a coma for a month?

Oh yeah, because shooting 27% from 3 in january and 37% in a whole 7 games in february makes him Ray Allen! Our 3 point troubles are gone guys, we have Marcus Smart! Oh, you must be the guy who started the thread about how Lillard is better than Curry. Of course, because Lillard had one great game! Looks like you're permanently in a coma (or just a little slow).

Congratulations on waking up, and congratulations on discovering the "splits" section in player profiles. But we're not talking about a single game. We're not talking about 7 games. It's been 12 games. That might not sound like a lot, but it's actually 12% of the number of games he's played in his career, and 34% of the games he's played this year. In those 12 games, he's averaging 4.9 attempted threes a game, and he's making 42.4% of them. And those aren't just any 12 games, they're the last 12 games, i.e., it's a trend. He's a 21-year-old who's improving. He's quickly developing the ability to hit threes. You said it was insane to think Smart is a prototypical 3 and D SG in the making. YOU WERE WRONG.

I won't argue with someone who uses 12 games to figure out that now Smart will develop into a sharpshooter. You probably thought Jeremy Lin was the next CP3 in 2012. Anyone can get hot for literally 12 games, even an awful shooter like Smart. I hope he does develop into a serviceable 3 point threat. Right now he is not, and he is most definitely not a prototypical 3 and D 2 guard. Back to your original question of if you are insane, the answer is a resounding yes. You spend way too much time on elaborate posts that don't make sense. If I was you, I would take up a new hobby instead of watching and trying to talk about basketball. Your mind just doesn't process it well, I guess.

Chill. No need to say stuff like this.

[Bucketgetter]

Thought I've been considering for a while, and it's not something that's going to light the world on fire, but are we better off turning Smart into a full fledged wing rather than making him fit a pg role that he doesn't seem suited for in an NBA that lives off the pick and rolls?  I know his shooting numbers thus far leave somehting to be desired, but I think we can all agree that based on what we watch everynight, he has potential to be able to shoot and make 3s at a decent clip as he progresses.

Considering he's already taller than bradley by a few inches, and about 40lbs heavier (while also being 5 years younger) am I insane for thinking he's a prototypical 3 and D 2guard in the making?  He's arguably all ready just as ferocious defensively, and as he gets older and adds experience/muscle you think he'd be able to develop into the type of guy that can guard 3 positions (including all but the most elite athletes of all the swing forwards). 

I know Hayward basically ate him up off the bounce last night but let's not let one game cloud the judgment of what he may be better suited for.  Smart does have a handle (just not one suited for the pnr), he's a decent rebounder for a guard, his defense already is well above average, and with work his stroke can be deadly from the corner/elbow 3s. 

I for one wouldn't be sad at all this summer to see us unload Bradley and try to bring in another true pg and leave those minutes AB abandons for Marcus to grow with.  Am I nuts (about this, specifically.  Dear God don't answer that question speaking generally)?

Yes. How can he be a prototypical 3 and D 2 guard if he doesn't have the 3? That makes him a prototypical D guard.

Have you been in a coma for a month?

Oh yeah, because shooting 27% from 3 in january and 37% in a whole 7 games in february makes him Ray Allen! Our 3 point troubles are gone guys, we have Marcus Smart! Oh, you must be the guy who started the thread about how Lillard is better than Curry. Of course, because Lillard had one great game! Looks like you're permanently in a coma (or just a little slow).

Congratulations on waking up, and congratulations on discovering the "splits" section in player profiles. But we're not talking about a single game. We're not talking about 7 games. It's been 12 games. That might not sound like a lot, but it's actually 12% of the number of games he's played in his career, and 34% of the games he's played this year. In those 12 games, he's averaging 4.9 attempted threes a game, and he's making 42.4% of them. And those aren't just any 12 games, they're the last 12 games, i.e., it's a trend. He's a 21-year-old who's improving. He's quickly developing the ability to hit threes. You said it was insane to think Smart is a prototypical 3 and D SG in the making. YOU WERE WRONG.

I won't argue with someone who uses 12 games to figure out that now Smart will develop into a sharpshooter. You probably thought Jeremy Lin was the next CP3 in 2012. Anyone can get hot for literally 12 games, even an awful shooter like Smart. I hope he does develop into a serviceable 3 point threat. Right now he is not, and he is most definitely not a prototypical 3 and D 2 guard. Back to your original question of if you are insane, the answer is a resounding yes. You spend way too much time on elaborate posts that don't make sense. If I was you, I would take up a new hobby instead of watching and trying to talk about basketball. Your mind just doesn't process it well, I guess.

Chill. No need to say stuff like this.

There is though, because if you go back and look at this guy's posts, all he does is fight with other posters, posting insanely long messages filled with insults and bolded messages.

[Greyman]

Whole thread seems to have been misdirected from the original question. Smart is the subject and poor AB seems to have been forgotten. AB has been playing decent numbers from a lot more shots. Neither is Ray Allen but very few people are (one to be exact).

If you look beyond the Celtics squad, it is still difficult to find players who defend as well as AB and are producing his shooting numbers.

I think this is a position where we are least in need of change. I would be adding in other areas.

[RockinRyA]

I think Smart will end up as a slightly above average 3 pt shooter. He needs to work on his finish though. He gets them to decent/respectable level he will be fine because he does so many things that helps a team win.

Smart has fluctuations in his shooting due to inconsistencies with his games played, so I am looking at his rookie numbers as a clue on what his shooting ability is. That plus reasonable assumption that he at least improved he will actually be at 34-37% if he wasnt injured.