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Cousy's old words of wisdom :)
« on: January 13, 2016, 10:10:09 PM »

Offline cons

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Anyone else here remember how Cooz used to repeatedly say, " You can't win on the road by shooting jumpers!" Gotta work it around and get a good shot. Cant take the first one that shows!" etc. etc.
 
  It seemed like he said that multiple times every game. It was drilled into my head.

 I guess now everyone w the new stats would say Cooz is absolutely wrong. As far as I can tell the new school is to shoot as many 3's as possible and as early in the shot clock as possible.

I don't know. I still trust Cousy more. I think he knew more what he was talking about. If he's still watching these games he must be sick to his stomach.

 How about trying to get a high percentage shot instead of just taking the first 3 thats available?
 
It may work for Steph Curry, but it aint working for us right now.

Re: Cousy's old words of wisdom :)
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2016, 10:58:46 AM »

Offline Green-Bananas

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I hope someone can do the advanced metrics for me, but always ask myself. Why do they always close out games with the three?

How come they don't take higher percentage shots down the stretch. Turner's 12 foot bunnies used to be automatic. Now he's jacking up 3's.

When you look back to other era's 70's for example, Teams often scored just as many points without the 3 point shot at all. So please explain to me why gambling on lower percentage shots will out score a team that shoots higher percentage. It seems to me the math stats all would lead to the higher percentage shot.

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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2016, 11:36:07 AM »

Offline CelticPride2016

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The above posts make sense. The NBA's three point virus is not new. Rick Pitino when with the Celtics had a vision of a team hitting 40% on threes on volume shooting. He also had plans for a full court press.

It comes down to personnel. It is vital that GM's and coaches are on the same page.

Every player should not be given the green light. Evan Turner should not be shooting them ever unless the clock is winding down. Sully needs to hit them at a better rate.

It is basketball wisdom that the easiest way to score is usually to attack the basket.

All five guys don't need to be able to shoot three pointers. This is one of the areas I disagree with Brad Stevens. It's not a bad thing that Amir can hit them, for example, but he needs to be wide open and take his time like one does shooting a free throw. Bass, okay, it made sense that if he can hit a 20 footer, why not step back an extra couple feet?

I have come to the conclusion that the roster still doesn't match the way Brad coaches best and that's why we are currently a 40 and not a 50 win team.

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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2016, 11:52:26 AM »

Offline Csfan1984

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Agreed that it comes down to the team. Players playing to their strengths and sticking to it. Coaches adapting to players and matchups.

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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2016, 12:21:31 PM »

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It definitely comes down to personnel. I remember when Kenny Anderson was having trouble with the three someone suggested he step in for a long two. Analytics will say this is a bad shot, but for Anderson it was a good shot because he was so much better shooting from just a foot or two closer than he was behind the three.

A lot can be said for trying to develop a three point shot for guys who are pretty decent from a little closer. They should be able to extend their range with decent relative efficiency given some time. I think this is what we're seeing with guys like Turner (and Sullinger in the past).