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Love this guy, love this team.
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Re: Jordan Mickey agrees to a four-year, $5M deal with the Boston Celtics
« Reply #46 on: July 20, 2015, 03:40:24 PM »

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Important date to look into, is what happens in the 3rd season. Will a longer deal be negotiated (make him a restricted free-agent) or go through until the fourth year, which would make him an unrestricted free-agent afterwards.

Yes he's an UFA after 4 years.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/07/20/celtics-sign-jordan-mickey-four-year-million-deal/PoW5bSyaA4oLJDbhfYs4WN/story.html?s_campaign=bostonglobe%3Asocialflow%3Atwitter
 
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The two guaranteed years on the deal — one of the largest ever given to a second-round pick — will total about $2.4 million, a source said. That will be more than some late first-round picks receive through the league-mandated rookie scale. Also, Mickey could become an unrestricted free agent after four seasons.

Not familiar enough with the CBA to know how he can be "re-made" into a RFA as you described.  Any source for your claim?

If the fourth year is a team option rather than an unguaranteed year, the Celtics would have the same situation that the Rockets had with Chandler Parsons: decline the option and make him a restricted free agent or exercise the option and let him become an unrestricted free agent in a year.
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On the Summer league broadcasts....David Aldridge mentioned a couple of times, how Mickey should have been drafted in the late teens--according to some NBA scouts he knows.
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We got lucky with getting him, and I think Ainge did right by him with the contract.

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On the Summer league broadcasts....David Aldridge mentioned a couple of times, how Mickey should have been drafted in the late teens--according to some NBA scouts he knows.

I believe it, but why was he projected so low? Lack of exposure?

Re: Jordan Mickey agrees to a four-year, $5M deal with the Boston Celtics
« Reply #50 on: July 20, 2015, 05:09:57 PM »

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Important date to look into, is what happens in the 3rd season. Will a longer deal be negotiated (make him a restricted free-agent) or go through until the fourth year, which would make him an unrestricted free-agent afterwards.

Yes he's an UFA after 4 years.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/07/20/celtics-sign-jordan-mickey-four-year-million-deal/PoW5bSyaA4oLJDbhfYs4WN/story.html?s_campaign=bostonglobe%3Asocialflow%3Atwitter
 
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The two guaranteed years on the deal — one of the largest ever given to a second-round pick — will total about $2.4 million, a source said. That will be more than some late first-round picks receive through the league-mandated rookie scale. Also, Mickey could become an unrestricted free agent after four seasons.

Not familiar enough with the CBA to know how he can be "re-made" into a RFA as you described.  Any source for your claim?

If the fourth year is a team option rather than an unguaranteed year, the Celtics would have the same situation that the Rockets had with Chandler Parsons: decline the option and make him a restricted free agent or exercise the option and let him become an unrestricted free agent in a year.

For further confusion, you can actually have a team option and an unguaranteed year in the same year of the contract.  So year 4 could be a team option, which, if declined, would result in RFA.  But if taken up, that year of the contract could still be unguaranteed.  Don't know if this is the case with Mickey, but the Rockets have done that a few times before, including, I believe, with Parsons.

Re: Jordan Mickey agrees to a four-year, $5M deal with the Boston Celtics
« Reply #51 on: July 20, 2015, 05:19:37 PM »

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Important date to look into, is what happens in the 3rd season. Will a longer deal be negotiated (make him a restricted free-agent) or go through until the fourth year, which would make him an unrestricted free-agent afterwards.

Yes he's an UFA after 4 years.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/07/20/celtics-sign-jordan-mickey-four-year-million-deal/PoW5bSyaA4oLJDbhfYs4WN/story.html?s_campaign=bostonglobe%3Asocialflow%3Atwitter
 
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The two guaranteed years on the deal — one of the largest ever given to a second-round pick — will total about $2.4 million, a source said. That will be more than some late first-round picks receive through the league-mandated rookie scale. Also, Mickey could become an unrestricted free agent after four seasons.

Not familiar enough with the CBA to know how he can be "re-made" into a RFA as you described.  Any source for your claim?

If the fourth year is a team option rather than an unguaranteed year, the Celtics would have the same situation that the Rockets had with Chandler Parsons: decline the option and make him a restricted free agent or exercise the option and let him become an unrestricted free agent in a year.

For further confusion, you can actually have a team option and an unguaranteed year in the same year of the contract.  So year 4 could be a team option, which, if declined, would result in RFA.  But if taken up, that year of the contract could still be unguaranteed.  Don't know if this is the case with Mickey, but the Rockets have done that a few times before, including, I believe, with Parsons.


TPs for you and Loose Cannon. Great deal if he can be made a RFA by our option. He's a steal as is Hunter at 28.

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On the Summer league broadcasts....David Aldridge mentioned a couple of times, how Mickey should have been drafted in the late teens--according to some NBA scouts he knows.

I believe it, but why was he projected so low? Lack of exposure?

He was an undersized shot-blocker who was projected to be a role-playing defensive specialist off the bench.  How high you are willing to draft him probably depends on how much offensive upside you think he has.

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I don't want to reopen the whole Philly discussion, but I have to wonder how much Ainge's history with 2nd round picks and the current direction of the team matters to this deal.

Yeah, Mickey's getting a lot of money for a 2nd rounder but he could have done what KJ McDaniels did and take a one-year deal to set himself up to make even more.  I have to think that he and his agent considered three things.

1.  Boston is pretty loaded at the 4, so there's no guarantee that Mickey would get enough playing time this coming season to attract a bigger offer.

2.  Ainge has to have a good reputation around the league being fair with players on their deals.  He's had a habit of dipping into the team's salary cap space to pay 2nd rounders a bit more and not playing hardball to try and lock them into long term deals with bargain basement salaries, which Hinkie has done.

3.  It's got to be more comfortable to potentially commit yourself to a team that's trying to compete, rather than knowing you're going to waste at least 2 to 3 seasons winning 20something games.

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Whew ...great news .....rather have what Mickey can give us ..than Whiteside and thug immature small mind.

Please

Please

Please


Take out the TRaSH

Let ET .......GO !


We'll need room for next years pick or picks


Dump Young for a second round pick.

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Whew ...great news .....rather have what Mickey can give us ..than Whiteside and thug immature small mind.

Please

Please

Please


Take out the TRaSH

Let ET .......GO !


We'll need room for next years pick or picks


Dump Young for a second round pick.


It doesnt make much sense to dump a prospect that you knew would take 2-3 years to develop when you drafted him, after just one year, when you are still rebuilding.

Re: Jordan Mickey agrees to a four-year, $5M deal with the Boston Celtics
« Reply #56 on: July 27, 2015, 08:45:52 AM »

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Important date to look into, is what happens in the 3rd season. Will a longer deal be negotiated (make him a restricted free-agent) or go through until the fourth year, which would make him an unrestricted free-agent afterwards.

Yes he's an UFA after 4 years.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2015/07/20/celtics-sign-jordan-mickey-four-year-million-deal/PoW5bSyaA4oLJDbhfYs4WN/story.html?s_campaign=bostonglobe%3Asocialflow%3Atwitter
 
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The two guaranteed years on the deal — one of the largest ever given to a second-round pick — will total about $2.4 million, a source said. That will be more than some late first-round picks receive through the league-mandated rookie scale. Also, Mickey could become an unrestricted free agent after four seasons.

Not familiar enough with the CBA to know how he can be "re-made" into a RFA as you described.  Any source for your claim?

If the fourth year is a team option rather than an unguaranteed year, the Celtics would have the same situation that the Rockets had with Chandler Parsons: decline the option and make him a restricted free agent or exercise the option and let him become an unrestricted free agent in a year.

For further confusion, you can actually have a team option and an unguaranteed year in the same year of the contract.  So year 4 could be a team option, which, if declined, would result in RFA.  But if taken up, that year of the contract could still be unguaranteed.  Don't know if this is the case with Mickey, but the Rockets have done that a few times before, including, I believe, with Parsons.

Update:

According to Spotrac, it is indeed a team option/non-guaranteed year for the final season.

Year 1: $1,170,960 (fully guaranteed)
Year 2: $1,223,653 (fully guaranteed)
Year 3: $1,276,346 (fully guaranteed effective 7/1/17)
Year 4: $1,329,039 (Team option.  If team option is picked up, contract is still non-guaranteed, until 7/1/18, at which point it guarantees fully).

So if Mickey plays well for three years, the C's can decline his option and make him a restricted free agent, and therefore easier to keep since they'll have full Bird rights.  If they decide they want him at his low year 4 salary, they can pick up the option.  They will still have full Bird rights, but he will not be a restricted free agent.  (Note: This assumes that the rules regarding restricted free agency do not change in any potential CBA renegotiation before the 2017-2018 season).  However, if they decide they don't want to keep him after year three, they can pick up the option, and try to trade him on draft night, either to a team that's interested in him, or as salary filler that can be waived.  If no trades are available, he can still be released before July 1st of that year with the Celtics owing him nothing.

TL;DR -- If Mickey seems like a stud, team can make him RFA after year 3 to lock him up long-term.  If he's useful, but not a long-term keeper, team can keep him for cheap in year 4.