Jordan Mickey: Full SL highlights. 1st in SL blocked shots

[SHAQATTACK]

He reminds me a bit of Cornbread .....

Do it all hard worker playing much larger  than his size.

Nice film.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

The gamble with Mickey is obviously hoping that his shot blocking in the NCAA and summer league will translate vs NBA length.

Watching him in summer league, he was great on both ends....
but he was doing it vs scrubs.
Look at all the bums he was playing against in summer league, those are 3rd and 4th string big men in the NBA.

The question is can he play vs NBA size?
This I'm not convinced about, but I hope he proves me wrong.

Why do people talk about SL scrubs as if every player doesn't play those same players? SL isn't always a precursor to the type of success a player will have but what's the point in always saying that when it means the same for every player?

That's the whole point. A bunch of these guys look like superstars playing against inferior or 'watered down' competition. The NBA is a man's league.
Go through that highlight reel and look at the scrubs he was defending.  Mickey can obviously only play against who they put out there but that doesn't change the fact that these guys are D League and lower caliber opponents.
Danny said he's 6'7" and while his reach and leap are good, he's 'undersized' as an nba defensive presence in the paint.
He often struggles vs length and that's not gonna get easier in the NBA.
I'm not writing him off but people are putting the world on his shoulders like he's the next Taj Gibson.

No, I haven't compared him to anyone, my question is with anyone who talks about it being only SL when everyone is facing the same competition, what's the point of that comment?

It's normal for people to get excited about their favorite team's players, you stating the obvious isn't going to change that.

Look at all the people happy that Lakers picks didn't perform well, how does that make sense? If it's only SL then that should hold true no matter how anyone plays, good or bad.

Do you know how many people would still be ticked at DA if Rozier had sucked out there? I'm willing to bet it would be a lot of the same people saying "it's only SL" when someone performs well!

[ThePoeticWolf]

Mickey reminds me of a Ben Wallace, just with a jumper.  He's not as good of a rebounder yet, but that'll come with time.  Plus I think he still needs to put on 10-20 pounds of muscle to really, be effective in the NBA level.

[hwangjini_1]

Mickey reminds me of a Ben Wallace, just with a jumper.  He's not as good of a rebounder yet, but that'll come with time.  Plus I think he still needs to put on 10-20 pounds of muscle to really, be effective in the NBA level.

i hope you are correct on how a good a rebounder mickey becomes. but i am not sure i see the same things as you. would you please let me know what it is you are seeing that lead you to believe that he might be able to average 9.6 rebounds a game over his career? this is a real question.

[Beat LA]

I don't see how anyone can be unhappy with what Mickey showed as a second round pick.  There will probably be someone else that emerges from the second round that has a better career than him but that would not take away from potential that Mickey has shown so far.  My random  thoughts on his game:

• The measurements say he is 6'-8".  It sure looks like he plays longer than that but if true, it is going to be hard for him to translate his game to the full sized NBA.
• I think people are overvaluing block stats.  Blocks are great but the 2 or 3 blocks you might get in a game as not as valuable as the number of shots that you contest.  He does look good on positioning and rotations though.
• I think he has enough offense to be a problem for other teams.  He should get plenty of those mid range shots off of the Celtic's movement
• Overall, what is not to like?

Just a side note related to the Christmas comparison.  I don't know who will have the better career but I am not a big fan of Syracuse players.  Their system seems to mask weaknesses.  Plus, they lost once to the University of Vermont in the NCAA tournament so how good could their players be?

Worst coached game I ever saw.  Boeheim had his team sit back in the zone the whole game while T. J. Sorrentine drained 3-pointers.  All they had to do was let their far superior athletes get out and defend.  They could have shut UVM down and blown them out of the gym.

I am happy with the Tiger over the Orange Man.

Ironically, neither am I.  Look at guys like Wesley Johnson and Kris Joseph, never mind the infamous Fab Melo.  I believe the last guy from the Orange who showed that he can actually play is Dion Waiters, but even so, that's what, 2 guys, in him and Carmelo, in 10 drafts?  I think that Christmas has the game that will translate with his inside play and defense, but I'm hardly expecting him to be an all star.  Mickey, imo, just looks too skinny and short to be able to effectively guard 4s and 5s, but I hope I'm wrong.  In some ways, he kind of reminds me of Jajuan Johnson in terms of being so lean, in addition to his shot blocking and high release jumper, but hopefully Mickey Mouse won't turn out that way.  He looks solid, but I wouldn't exactly expect him to be an all star, and would someone please tell him to keep his blocks in play?  Man, most of those on the video were Javale McGee-like volley ball spikes into the crowd.  Ugh.  Those might make Sportscenter, but they ultimately accomplish nothing if the opponent retains possession.

Btw. does anyone have Johnson's rookie numbers from the summer league so that we can compare them to Mickey's?

[Tr1boy]

Mickey reminds me of a Ben Wallace, just with a jumper.  He's not as good of a rebounder yet, but that'll come with time.  Plus I think he still needs to put on 10-20 pounds of muscle to really, be effective in the NBA level.

i hope you are correct on how a good a rebounder mickey becomes. but i am not sure i see the same things as you. would you please let me know what it is you are seeing that lead you to believe that he might be able to average 9.6 rebounds a game over his career? this is a real question.

you know there is one really good indicator, not always but a good one that a player will be a good rebounder in the NBA. If he is a very good rebounder in college and has the numbers to back it up.  Mickey in college had multiple 10 plus rebound games. He had several 14 plus rebound games and a massive 20 rebound game (season high).

If you factor in he is considered undersized, this means he knows how to rebound.  He has the skill to do it. Once he puts on the weight/strength (and he is not at disadvantage vs nba pros) , his rebounding capability should shine

On the other hand you look at Fab Melo's stats in college and the best he did in his last season college was 10 in one game.  And only once.   You can tell watching him play , he does not have the skill to rebound, especially the difficult ones and mainly got the easy ones.

[perks-a-beast]

Anyone who is doubting Mickeys ability to translate his game to the NBA should watch his highlights against Kentucky last year where he played phenomenal against a kentucky team that some thought would have made the playoffs in the eastern conference last year. Id post it myself but unfortunately dont know how to do it from an iphone. It should be on youtube.

[Tr1boy]

Anyone who is doubting Mickeys ability to translate his game to the NBA should watch his highlights against Kentucky last year where he played phenomenal against a kentucky team that some thought would have made the playoffs in the eastern conference last year. Id post it myself but unfortunately dont know how to do it from an iphone. It should be on youtube.

People have already seen it here. Trust me

They just keep doubting, until he does it in a regular nba game

[chambers]

The gamble with Mickey is obviously hoping that his shot blocking in the NCAA and summer league will translate vs NBA length.

Watching him in summer league, he was great on both ends....
but he was doing it vs scrubs.
Look at all the bums he was playing against in summer league, those are 3rd and 4th string big men in the NBA.

The question is can he play vs NBA size?
This I'm not convinced about, but I hope he proves me wrong.

Why do people talk about SL scrubs as if every player doesn't play those same players? SL isn't always a precursor to the type of success a player will have but what's the point in always saying that when it means the same for every player?

That's the whole point. A bunch of these guys look like superstars playing against inferior or 'watered down' competition. The NBA is a man's league.
Go through that highlight reel and look at the scrubs he was defending.  Mickey can obviously only play against who they put out there but that doesn't change the fact that these guys are D League and lower caliber opponents.
Danny said he's 6'7" and while his reach and leap are good, he's 'undersized' as an nba defensive presence in the paint.
He often struggles vs length and that's not gonna get easier in the NBA.
I'm not writing him off but people are putting the world on his shoulders like he's the next Taj Gibson.

No, I haven't compared him to anyone, my question is with anyone who talks about it being only SL when everyone is facing the same competition, what's the point of that comment?

It's normal for people to get excited about their favorite team's players, you stating the obvious isn't going to change that.

Look at all the people happy that Lakers picks didn't perform well, how does that make sense? If it's only SL then that should hold true no matter how anyone plays, good or bad.

Do you know how many people would still be ticked at DA if Rozier had sucked out there? I'm willing to bet it would be a lot of the same people saying "it's only SL" when someone performs well!

I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to say regarding this thread...( I do however respect your opinion and you're a great Celticsblog member  )...

To me, this is a thread discussing Jordan Mickey- the good and the questionable/bad. It seems unfair saying that comments about it 'only being summer league' are not valid/needed because they are valid. In this thread, there are comments like 'what a steal at #33'..... 'He's a great shot blocker and great defender'.... and 'he's gonna be great!'.

Another poster comes along and says 'be weary, it's summer league', 'I am concerned about his lack of length', 'he's struggled against length and these great summer league results don't always  translate to the NBA' etc...

For me, giving my opinion on Jordan Mickey (not just in Summer league mind you) is important so people don't garner huge expectations.

I just don't want a double standard where people can drool about a rookie and say how great he is, yet when others respectfully point out some concerns about him they get shut down/ attacked. (I know you're not attacking anyone).