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Would you trade James Young + Clippers pick for a top 10 pick ?

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Re: Would you trade James Young + Clippers pick for a top 10 pick ?
« Reply #45 on: May 17, 2015, 09:51:56 PM »

Offline Granath

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Hey now, I like living under a rock, okay (sarcasm) ;D?  It's quite cool in the summer, lol ;D.

I just looked at KO's stats, btw, and yes, you'r right, he did get marginally better, but what in the world happened to his free throws?  I didn't realize his percentage was that bad, his rebounding actually regressed, and he only started 4 more games this year than in his rookie campaign, but his 2 point fg% to greatly improve - I'll certainly give you that. 

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I seem to recall him really finding a groove playing against 2nd tier guys, for the most part, off the bench, as opposed to the starters of the opposition, and didn't the team play very well without him after he went down with that ankle injury towards the all star break? 

Additionally, if his play was so improved (not that you're saying that, but still), why did he only average 2.2 more mpg last season?  It can't just be foul trouble, which also slightly increased this past year from 3.2 to 3.3.

You're kind of all over the place here. You're grudgingly admitting he got better and then trying to make excuses for it.

KO improved from year one to year two despite a litany of injuries. The ankle sprain, the eye, the stitches in the back of the head...he got beat up this year. His defense was better this year. Before anyone freaks out, it was still lousy but it was actually better than the year before. He played mainly off the bench, but that's what he did the year before. He also happens to be one of the team leaders in +/- again and that's happening too often to be a simple fluke. He also has a fairly rare skill set and can drive to the hoop like few other big men. What's maddening about Olynyk is that when he's aggressive he's usually very effective. But all too often he's passive, giving up the shot and looking like an afterthought. It drives everyone nuts. He even said as much at the end of the season:

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"I think I had stretches where I was playing well and doing a lot of different things on the floor, whether passing or creating shots, shooting or getting to the rim," Olynyk said. "And then I had other games where I wasn’t as good, not the same aggressiveness."

I had higher hopes for him this season and I think he under-performed even with his improvement. If he's lucky enough that the Cs don't draft a rookie that eats into his minutes, next year is the Come to Jesus year for KO (and Sully). He's already 24 and if he doesn't improve his body and his aggressiveness then he'll never be anything more than an 8th-10th man off the bench.

To answer your question, the Cs played about .500 ball after he went out. But let's face it, the Rondo and Green trades had far larger impacts and they occurred in the same time frame.
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Re: Would you trade James Young + Clippers pick for a top 10 pick ?
« Reply #46 on: May 17, 2015, 10:24:25 PM »

Offline Celtics4ever

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I have actually seen some improvement in his strength and body.   He needs more but KO at least tries.   He has a finite athletic base to build upon.

Re: Would you trade James Young + Clippers pick for a top 10 pick ?
« Reply #47 on: May 17, 2015, 10:34:20 PM »

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it will take Smart and worth it for Hezonja. We have to get efficient scorers. Hezonja and Young can be tough defend in 2 years