If the Sixers wind up with two lottery picks...

[DrJasper]

If the Sixers wind up with two lottery picks do you see the possibility that they trade the lower one (11)?

Say for our pick (15) and the Clippers pick (27)

Would you personaly do it?

I think I would because I would rather have one player with high upside than two medicore guys

[CelticGuardian]

Of course, I would be more than happy if the C's could get a pick in the lottery. But at the same time, you can never truly tell who's going to be a star, a decent player, or a bust.

Remember Rondo was picked late in his respective draft class. So you never know, there may be an overlooked player out there that has gobs of potential and we have the chance to grab him.

[saltlover]

Three things:

1) Hinkie is definitely an upside guy over a quantity guy, so I doubt he'd do that trade.
2) That said, Hinkie did trade from 10 to 12 last year.  The cost to Orlando was a future Sixers first that they controlled.  To me, this feels like a higher price than the 27th pick to move from 15 to 11.  It's also more likely we'd have to move from 16 than 15.
3) It's also pretty unlikely that the Sixers wind up with the Heat's pick this year.  The odds are about 10%.  It's more likely that they wind up with the Lakers pick at 6 or 7 (17%).

[Evantime34]

I think Hinkie would absolutely hold our feet to the fire if we tried to trade up with them. I would expect him to ask for so much to move up from 16 to 11 that we wouldn't be able to do it.

[DrJasper]

Three things:

1) Hinkie is definitely an upside guy over a quantity guy, so I doubt he'd do that trade.
2) That said, Hinkie did trade from 10 to 12 last year.  The cost to Orlando was a future Sixers first that they controlled.  To me, this feels like a higher price than the 27th pick to move from 15 to 11.  It's also more likely we'd have to move from 16 than 15.
3) It's also pretty unlikely that the Sixers wind up with the Heat's pick this year.  The odds are about 10%.  It's more likely that they wind up with the Lakers pick at 6 or 7 (17%).

Have to aggree with your first two points but about 3, I know its unlikely but thats why I said "if" 
But if a player like Stanley Johnson slips (like in some mock drafts) I think we should try to move up (at a higher cost of course)

[droopdog7]

Honestly, I think the 27th pick is nothing a throw in worth very little.  Could be find a good player?  Possible, but more likely we draft someone that never makes the nba.  Would you go down several spots in the top of the first round for those odds? 

I sure would not.

Year   Player   Drafted From   Drafted By
2013   Rudy Gobert   France   Denver
2012   Arnett Moultrie   Mississippi State   Miami
2011   JaJuan Johnson   Purdue   New Jersey
2010   Jordan Crawford   Xavier   New Jersey
2009   DeMarre Carroll   Missouri   Memphis
2008   Darrell Arthur   Kansas   Portland
2007   Aaron Afflalo   UCLA   Detroit
2006   Sergio Rodriguez   Spain   Portland
2005   Linas Kleiza   Missouri So.   Portland
2004   Sasha Vujacic   Slovenia 1984   LA Lakers
2003   Kendrick Perkins   Beaumont, TX HSSr.   Memphis
2002   John Salmons   MiamiSr.   San Antonio
2001   Samuel Dalembert   Seton Hall So.   Philadelphia
2000   Primoz Brezec   Slovenia   Indiana
1999   Jumaine Jones   Georgia So.   Atlanta
1998   Vladimir Stepania   Ljubljana   Seattle
1997   Jacque Vaughn   Kansas   Utah
1996   Brian Evans   Indiana   Orlando
1995   Mario Bennett   Arizona State   Phoenix
1994   Brooks Thompson   Oklahoma State   Orlando
1993   Malcolm Mackey   Georgia Tech   Phoenix
1992   Byron Houston   Oklahoma State   Chicago
1991   Pete Chilcutt   North Carolina   Sacramento
1990   Elden Campbell   Clemson   LA Lakers
1989   Kenny Battle   Illinois   Detroit
1988   Shelton Jones   St. John's   San Antonio
1987   Nate Blackwell   Temple   San Antonio
1986   Dennis Rodman   SE Oklahoma State   Detroit
1985   Dwayne McClain   Villanova   Indiana
1984   Ron Anderson   Fresno State   Cleveland
1983   John Garris   BostonCollege   Cleveland
1982   Fred Roberts   Brigham Young   Milwaukee
1981   Howard Wood   Tennessee   Utah
1980   John Stroud   Mississippi   Houston

[DrJasper]

I think Hinkie would absolutely hold our feet to the fire if we tried to trade up with them. I would expect him to ask for so much to move up from 16 to 11 that we wouldn't be able to do it.

You are propably right, I just can't accept that we wont have a lottery pick this year..
Why can't we have both, a playoff berth and a good pick? 
(Maybe next year.. Thank you very much Brooklyn  )

[saltlover]

Three things:

1) Hinkie is definitely an upside guy over a quantity guy, so I doubt he'd do that trade.
2) That said, Hinkie did trade from 10 to 12 last year.  The cost to Orlando was a future Sixers first that they controlled.  To me, this feels like a higher price than the 27th pick to move from 15 to 11.  It's also more likely we'd have to move from 16 than 15.
3) It's also pretty unlikely that the Sixers wind up with the Heat's pick this year.  The odds are about 10%.  It's more likely that they wind up with the Lakers pick at 6 or 7 (17%).

Have to aggree with your first two points and and about 3, I know its unlikely but thats why I said "if" 
But if a player like Stanley Johnson slips (like in some mock drafts) I think we should try to move up (at a higher cost of course)

I don't disagree with trying to move up.  I just think you might have a better chance to swap with the Heat if they get #10 than with Hinkie at #11.  My personal trade partner target is Detroit at #8 if WCS is on the board.  With Drummond on the roster, WCS makes little sense.  And as they were without a 1st last year, two firsts this year might make sense.  Would probably need to add something else to the deal (like the Minny protected pick) to make it happen, but they seem like a more viable trade partner than Hinkie, if the goal is to not bleed yourself dry.

[DrJasper]

Three things:

1) Hinkie is definitely an upside guy over a quantity guy, so I doubt he'd do that trade.
2) That said, Hinkie did trade from 10 to 12 last year.  The cost to Orlando was a future Sixers first that they controlled.  To me, this feels like a higher price than the 27th pick to move from 15 to 11.  It's also more likely we'd have to move from 16 than 15.
3) It's also pretty unlikely that the Sixers wind up with the Heat's pick this year.  The odds are about 10%.  It's more likely that they wind up with the Lakers pick at 6 or 7 (17%).

Have to aggree with your first two points and and about 3, I know its unlikely but thats why I said "if" 
But if a player like Stanley Johnson slips (like in some mock drafts) I think we should try to move up (at a higher cost of course)

I don't disagree with trying to move up.  I just think you might have a better chance to swap with the Heat if they get #10 than with Hinkie at #11.  My personal trade partner target is Detroit at #8 if WCS is on the board.  With Drummond on the roster, WCS makes little sense.  And as they were without a 1st last year, two firsts this year might make sense.  Would probably need to add something else to the deal (like the Minny protected pick) to make it happen, but they seem like a more viable trade partner than Hinkie, if the goal is to not bleed yourself dry.

That would be great, but Detroit desperatly needs a SF and at 8 they probably can choose from either Winslow, Henzonja or Johnson and I can't think of a better prospect we can offer 
So I think they'd like to keep their pick...

[DrJasper]

Maybe we could make a deal with Sacrameto (no not for Cousins) they lack defense and a stretch 4
So we could offer Bradley (Defense) and Olynyk (Stretch-4) and some picks (I don't know how many it would take) for their pick (6/7).
I could imagine they would like to win now rather than later so this move might make sense for them.
Don't bash me if you disaggree 

Than we would obviously have a hole at the SG spot, but we could slide Smart to the 2 and sign Brandon Knight in the offseason.

Lineup:
Knight/Smart/Crowder/Sullinger/WCS

[Moranis]

Sixers have no interest at all in doing that I don't think.  Now maybe if there was a future pick as well something like 16, 27, and Cleveland 1st for 11, but then I'm not sure I see the point in that for Boston.

I do agree that Miami at 10 is much more likely to trade the pick, not necessarily for draft picks, but they might have an interest in Sullinger or Olynyk more than a rookie at 10 as they are trying to win now.  Something like Olynyk and 27 for 10 seemingly would make sense for both teams (KO is the perfect bench PF for that team and they still get a pick in the draft - I'd probably be willing to throw in a protected future pick if necessary).  Boston still then has 16 to go along with 10 in that scenario.  According to nbadraft.net that would WCS at 10 and Frank Kaminsky at 16. 

[LooseCannon]

The basic scenario for this happening is a draft day deal if the Sixers think the best player available at 11 is someone who will still be there at 15 while the Celtics want a player who they don't think will still be there at 15.

[saltlover]

Three things:

1) Hinkie is definitely an upside guy over a quantity guy, so I doubt he'd do that trade.
2) That said, Hinkie did trade from 10 to 12 last year.  The cost to Orlando was a future Sixers first that they controlled.  To me, this feels like a higher price than the 27th pick to move from 15 to 11.  It's also more likely we'd have to move from 16 than 15.
3) It's also pretty unlikely that the Sixers wind up with the Heat's pick this year.  The odds are about 10%.  It's more likely that they wind up with the Lakers pick at 6 or 7 (17%).

Have to aggree with your first two points and and about 3, I know its unlikely but thats why I said "if" 
But if a player like Stanley Johnson slips (like in some mock drafts) I think we should try to move up (at a higher cost of course)

I don't disagree with trying to move up.  I just think you might have a better chance to swap with the Heat if they get #10 than with Hinkie at #11.  My personal trade partner target is Detroit at #8 if WCS is on the board.  With Drummond on the roster, WCS makes little sense.  And as they were without a 1st last year, two firsts this year might make sense.  Would probably need to add something else to the deal (like the Minny protected pick) to make it happen, but they seem like a more viable trade partner than Hinkie, if the goal is to not bleed yourself dry.

That would be great, but Detroit desperatly needs a SF and at 8 they probably can choose from either Winslow, Henzonja or Johnson and I can't think of a better prospect we can offer 
So I think they'd like to keep their pick...

In a universe where WCS is available at 8, it's somewhat likely both Winslow and Johnson are off the board.  I would be surprised if Hezonja is the type of player SVG is interested in.  Having both the coach and GM powers means a) he has less time to scout international players, and b) probably doesn't want to deal with buying him out from his Euro team and/or waiting for him to come over.  I agree that these are all players that Detroit could use, but depending how the draft goes, I wouldn't be surprised to see Detroit make a trade if Winslow and Johnson are both gone. And given the quality of Johnson and Winslow, I wouldn't be surprised at all if both went in the top 7.  A few of the next tier of wings, such as Oubre, Dekker, and Booker, shoukd be available at 16.

Again, I agree with you Detroit needs a SF.  I just wouldn't be surprised if the ones they want are gone by the time it's their turn.

[CFAN38]

Honestly, I think the 27th pick is nothing a throw in worth very little.  Could be find a good player?  Possible, but more likely we draft someone that never makes the nba.  Would you go down several spots in the top of the first round for those odds? 

I sure would not.

Year   Player   Drafted From   Drafted By
2013   Rudy Gobert   France   Denver
2012   Arnett Moultrie   Mississippi State   Miami
2011   JaJuan Johnson   Purdue   New Jersey
2010   Jordan Crawford   Xavier   New Jersey
2009   DeMarre Carroll   Missouri   Memphis
2008   Darrell Arthur   Kansas   Portland
2007   Aaron Afflalo   UCLA   Detroit
2006   Sergio Rodriguez   Spain   Portland
2005   Linas Kleiza   Missouri So.   Portland
2004   Sasha Vujacic   Slovenia 1984   LA Lakers
2003   Kendrick Perkins   Beaumont, TX HSSr.   Memphis
2002   John Salmons   MiamiSr.   San Antonio
2001   Samuel Dalembert   Seton Hall So.   Philadelphia
2000   Primoz Brezec   Slovenia   Indiana
1999   Jumaine Jones   Georgia So.   Atlanta
1998   Vladimir Stepania   Ljubljana   Seattle

Looking at the past 15 drafts the 27th pick has yielded some nice players. I count 9 guys who where starting caliber at some point in there career and 4 serviceable bench players.

Im not saying that the 76ers are going to make that trade. They may do it if an additional 20161st in thrown in but I just wanted to point out that valuable players can be found at every pick in the first round.


I think its more likely that the Cs use their two 2nds to more the 27th up. This draft will see a good prospect fall past 20 and I want to see the Cs grab him.