charles barkely test on marcus defense

[rollie mass]

is defense just as important as scoring or the other way around-can anyone be taught the instincts and heart of a force on defense-do you take a russell or a chamberlain-does marcus deserve to be up there with the best or avery bradly-most players love offense only a few play defense to that level,remember the season and smart is a young rookie,remember smart taking on bigs in post or that huge block or ripping the ball out of someones hands,his deflections and how he gets over the top on screens ,draws offensive fouls and embarasses guards and takes time off the clock-apply the barkely test to marcus -is this really a rookie on d- how he has impacted crowder and avery ,turner and isiah---dj was smooth,avery is a pick pocket magician but marcus is like mike tyson

[Celtics4ever]

Mike Tyson though was more offense than defense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgJh1ntLt8U

Marcus kind is tough but he kind of wears a guy down more than knock him out.  His build is similar though if you stretch him out to MS height.

[rollie mass]

i remember the quote of rookie marcus as he couldn't wait to guard lebron---nice clip thanks and tp --there were some on tyson defense also

[droopdog7]

is defense just as important as scoring or the other way around-can anyone be taught the instincts and heart of a force on defense-do you take a russell or a chamberlain-does marcus deserve to be up there with the best or avery bradly-most players love offense only a few play defense to that level,remember the season and smart is a young rookie,remember smart taking on bigs in post or that huge block or ripping the ball out of someones hands,his deflections and how he gets over the top on screens ,draws offensive fouls and embarasses guards and takes time off the clock-apply the barkely test to marcus -is this really a rookie on d- how he has impacted crowder and avery ,turner and isiah---dj was smooth,avery is a pick pocket magician but marcus is like mike tyson

English?

Anyway, to answer your question, offense is more important (though a shot blocking big can be very important).

[aingeforthree]

What amazes me is that Marcus can change a game in 30 minutes even when only scoring 3 points.  He does stuff that doesn't show up in box scores, but ultimately shows up in the coaches video room the next day.

[LGC88]

What amazes me is that Marcus can change a game in 30 minutes even when only scoring 3 points.  He does stuff that doesn't show up in box scores, but ultimately shows up in the coaches video room the next day.

Exaclty, that's why I have huge expectations for Smart in the future. This boy is the real deal. On top of his skills that will obviously improve, he has great confidence and leader attitude. He might be a better Wade one day.

[fandrew]

Is defense just as important as scoring or the other way around?

Can anyone be taught the instincts and heart of a force on defense?

[Would you rather] take Bill Russell or Wilt Chamberlain?

Does Marcus deserve to be up there with the best? [Does] Avery Bradley?

Most players love offense while only a few play defense [at a high] level. Remember [that this] season [Marcus] Smart is a young rookie. Smart posts up on Bigs, makes key blocks and steals, and is excellent at getting around screens. He draws charges while playing stifling defense that takes time off the clock.

Apply the Charles Barkley test on Marcus Smart: Is this really a rookie on D? How has he impacted his teammates? DJ was smooth. Avery is a pick pocket magician. But Marcus? Marcus is like Mike Tyson.

I rewrote your post to better understand it. What the heck is the Charles Barkley test? It is the subject of your post but you did not explain what it is, or even how Marcus Smart would fare on it.

This was a very confusing post, just fyi.

[rollie mass]

charles barkley test-is anti-stats ,he did several interviews and talk shows bashing technical metrics vs sort of feet on ground-I have been flat on my back holding computer with one hand and tilted-My spelling and sentence structure was always repaired by sec.--using caps is almost impossible- i also am used to posting financial stuff and if i was in arts i would have had technical training but would have painted abstract- so within the poorly constructed abstract theme ,you have isolated the  salient thoughts -but barclay test fits marcus to a t-intangibles that can't be measured and quantified--thanks for cleaning that up. tp for your generosity and patience

[hwangjini_1]

Is defense just as important as scoring or the other way around?

Can anyone be taught the instincts and heart of a force on defense?

[Would you rather] take Bill Russell or Wilt Chamberlain?

Does Marcus deserve to be up there with the best? [Does] Avery Bradley?

Most players love offense while only a few play defense [at a high] level. Remember [that this] season [Marcus] Smart is a young rookie. Smart posts up on Bigs, makes key blocks and steals, and is excellent at getting around screens. He draws charges while playing stifling defense that takes time off the clock.

Apply the Charles Barkley test on Marcus Smart: Is this really a rookie on D? How has he impacted his teammates? DJ was smooth. Avery is a pick pocket magician. But Marcus? Marcus is like Mike Tyson.

I rewrote your post to better understand it. What the heck is the Charles Barkley test? It is the subject of your post but you did not explain what it is, or even how Marcus Smart would fare on it.

This was a very confusing post, just fyi.

nice try. rewrites have been suggested before, but its rollie being rollie. 

[rollie mass]

hwang-you got the point even if it was abstract and in code-try using and typing lying down-the best part about my marcus post was the response with tyson knockouts-there was also a video of his defense which was quite offensive in nature a bobbing and weaving while getting inside and nullifying reach-this was taught to him by gus dangelo--he was almost impossible to hit while boring in for body shots and uppercuts -his technique defensivly was completely overlooked-but it was a force-i think marcus plays all star defense by barkley test-

[apc]

Is defense just as important as scoring or the other way around?

Can anyone be taught the instincts and heart of a force on defense?

[Would you rather] take Bill Russell or Wilt Chamberlain?

Does Marcus deserve to be up there with the best? [Does] Avery Bradley?

Most players love offense while only a few play defense [at a high] level. Remember [that this] season [Marcus] Smart is a young rookie. Smart posts up on Bigs, makes key blocks and steals, and is excellent at getting around screens. He draws charges while playing stifling defense that takes time off the clock.

Apply the Charles Barkley test on Marcus Smart: Is this really a rookie on D? How has he impacted his teammates? DJ was smooth. Avery is a pick pocket magician. But Marcus? Marcus is like Mike Tyson.

I rewrote your post to better understand it. What the heck is the Charles Barkley test? It is the subject of your post but you did not explain what it is, or even how Marcus Smart would fare on it.

This was a very confusing post, just fyi.

nice try. rewrites have been suggested before, but its rollie being rollie. 

I have this little game I play, I try to guess by the Subject of the post if it posted by Rollie.
(i am getting pretty good at it)

[Celtics17]

In Chamberlain's defense, he was asked to be a scorer. Later in his career he was asked to be a defensive player and was a great one. Russ, as great as he was, was never suppose to do both as he was able to concentrate primarily on defense. Chamberlain did not have the same luxury. It's very difficult to play both at such a high level, especially at the level those two played. Russ being the best defensive player of all time and Chamberlain the best offensive player ever.

[rollie mass]

if chamberlain had been able to shoot foul shots-they would have had to ban him from league-The phrase drilled into me was defense wins games,our practises were 60% defensive drills,getting over top ,boxing out,side to side,i'm still comfortable in the get down defensive stance-there always a place on my team for a great defensive player another  massimino quote- our goal was to shut an opponent out for a quarter.That was rollie massimino back then it pressure man to man team defense-not a whiff of zone

[GreenWarrior]

What amazes me is that Marcus can change a game in 30 minutes even when only scoring 3 points.  He does stuff that doesn't show up in box scores, but ultimately shows up in the coaches video room the next day.

this is what has me really excited about Smart. I can't wait to see what kind of player he becomes with some experience.

I've said time n' time again marcus may very well never be a big numbers guy, I wouldn't be surprised to see his averages look pretty pedestrian next to the top PG's or SG's in the league. a lot of what marcus does leads to a play for a teammate, he might tip a ball away that a teammate gets credit for the steal. stuff like that.

if C's fans don't appreciate that and aren't excited about that? I don't get what exactly they are a fan of or why.