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ESPN.com article on Hawks/Warriors new school style
« on: March 18, 2015, 05:16:13 PM »

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Basically, superstar-oriented isolations and trying to create one-on-one mismatches is old school.  Ball movement that can seamlessly find the third option on the weak side and more positionless defense is new school.

I am rooting for the Hawks approach to roster construction to be validated by a title.
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Basically, superstar-oriented isolations and trying to create one-on-one mismatches is old school.  Ball movement that can seamlessly find the third option on the weak side and more positionless defense is new school.

And thank God.  With the exception of the transcendently good guys that was always ugly to watch.

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I am rooting for the Hawks approach to roster construction to be validated by a title.

If the 04 Pistons didn't change much, I don't know how much the Hawks winning would. 

I'm rooting for us, but realistically the Warriors, just because I find them more fun to watch.  Any contender but Cleveland would be fine.

Re: ESPN.com article on Hawks/Warriors new school style
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2015, 05:37:14 PM »

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At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2015, 05:44:09 PM »

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Looks like they didn't call traveling back then either.

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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2015, 06:16:07 PM »

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How on earth can they say ball-movement is new-school?

That alone makes me question the validity of the article.

Most games from the 80's that I have watched had excellent ball movement, not just repeated isolation.

Is the author of the article 16?

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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2015, 06:27:38 PM »

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Consider the source, up north.
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2015, 07:06:46 PM »

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Playing as a team is the new school basketball? Isn't that what the team concept of basketball is supposed to be?

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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2015, 07:34:19 PM »

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Playing as a team is the new school basketball? Isn't that what the team concept of basketball is supposed to be?

Being more of a jump-shooting team is better than pounding the ball inside, so long as the jump shots come off of ball movement instead of isolations.
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I love how everyone's clamoring to crown these teams "the model by which every team should follow". even though they haven't won anything.

the Utah jazz in the 90's won a lot of games...but that didn't equal a championship.

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Wild guess: The Hawks will lose.
 
they're fooling themselves to think otherwise
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« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2015, 10:15:37 PM »

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Basically, superstar-oriented isolations and trying to create one-on-one mismatches is old school.  Ball movement that can seamlessly find the third option on the weak side and more positionless defense is new school.

I am rooting for the Hawks approach to roster construction to be validated by a title.

This "new school" approach seems to be the one the Spurs have been using for years. 


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Basically, superstar-oriented isolations and trying to create one-on-one mismatches is old school.  Ball movement that can seamlessly find the third option on the weak side and more positionless defense is new school.

I am rooting for the Hawks approach to roster construction to be validated by a title.

This "new school" approach seems to be the one the Spurs have been using for years.


LOL so true. I mean, the picture on this article should be Pop and Spurs team!
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« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2015, 10:57:06 PM »

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Basically, superstar-oriented isolations and trying to create one-on-one mismatches is old school.  Ball movement that can seamlessly find the third option on the weak side and more positionless defense is new school.

I am rooting for the Hawks approach to roster construction to be validated by a title.

This "new school" approach seems to be the one the Spurs have been using for years.

Can a team win a title with this approach without having a player as good as Tim Duncan on the roster?
"The worst thing that ever happened in sports was sports radio, and the internet is sports radio on steroids with lower IQs.” -- Brian Burke, former Toronto Maple Leafs senior adviser, at the 2013 MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference

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Basically, superstar-oriented isolations and trying to create one-on-one mismatches is old school.  Ball movement that can seamlessly find the third option on the weak side and more positionless defense is new school.

I am rooting for the Hawks approach to roster construction to be validated by a title.

This "new school" approach seems to be the one the Spurs have been using for years.

Can a team win a title with this approach without having a player as good as Tim Duncan on the roster?

That's the crux of the article. Yes, great teams have been moving the ball for years, but the next phase of basketball might not require a top-10 player to be a championship team.