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Re: Bass staying?
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2015, 02:23:51 AM »

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Just not fair to let him rot/waste away on this team as we head to the lotto for the next few years.

It's in our interests to try and draft someone with Bass's roster spot and develop them as a valuable asset.

Bass is tough piece to move, because even though he's a great team mate and hard working player, his $price tag is still pretty high for playoffs teams near the salary cap.

Why's it hard to trade Bass?
Well there are plenty of teams that would love him, but they've gotta send us back an expiring deal AND some kind of asset...so there's a very specific number of teams it would have to be to actually get it done.

He'd be a great role model for the young guys as a hard worker, but we've got Smart, Wallace and Craeder as hustle guys who will probably provide enough of that hard working influence in the locker room already next year. (assuming we keep Craeder).

Love Bass but wouldn't want to punish him by keeping him on our bum squad.
One of the best role players in the NBA and belongs on a championship contender.

My guess is the Warriors sign him as a FA next season.
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Re: Bass staying?
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2015, 02:33:59 AM »

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Just not fair to let him rot/waste away on this team as we head to the lotto for the next few years.

It's in our interests to try and draft someone with Bass's roster spot and develop them as a valuable asset.

Bass is tough piece to move, because even though he's a great team mate and hard working player, his $price tag is still pretty high for playoffs teams near the salary cap.

Why's it hard to trade Bass?
Well there are plenty of teams that would love him, but they've gotta send us back an expiring deal AND some kind of asset...so there's a very specific number of teams it would have to be to actually get it done.

He'd be a great role model for the young guys as a hard worker, but we've got Smart, Wallace and Craeder as hustle guys who will probably provide enough of that hard working influence in the locker room already next year. (assuming we keep Craeder).

Love Bass but wouldn't want to punish him by keeping him on our bum squad.
One of the best role players in the NBA and belongs on a championship contender.

My guess is the Warriors sign him as a FA next season.

That's the other attractive thing about Brandon:  I don't really think it's punishment for him.

Brandon will just continue to pack his lunch box and bring his hard hat to work no matter where he's playing.

Brandon's a good pro.  He's a limited player, but he's a good pro. 
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Re: Bass staying?
« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2015, 03:10:08 AM »

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Bass might be playing the best he ever has, and I like him.  However it might be time to sell high on him.  He's better suited for a playoff contender than a rebuilding team.

I don't think he's playing the best he ever has.  Rather, he's playing like he always does.  That's what's attractive about him.

Well, he just made a 3 so that makes him about 2.5 to 5% better.

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Maybe it doesn't fit into grand slam schemes that people have in their mind, but having a guy like Brandon Bass with younglings sounds good to me.

I mean, look at what Cleveland is coughing up. There has to be some value in having good personalities in your locker room.

Re: Bass staying?
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2015, 07:22:23 AM »

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I don't think it's good for Olynyk or Sullinger if Bass stays. Those two young guns should have 100% of the PF minutes and should be playing alongside a proper center majority of time on the court. Bass is too good not to disrupt their playing time and ideal lineup configurations. Bass is one of the best backup PFs in the league. He is not some 3rd stringer.

Bass is more of an added complication than a solution for this Celtics team.

Re: Bass staying?
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2015, 07:52:45 AM »

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what about injuries to sullinger or KO/ zeller-got quite a few games coming up that could be physical and emotionally draining..

Re: Bass staying?
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2015, 09:08:08 AM »

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You would only resign Bass for 1 year and overpay him if you don't use cap space this summer. That way you have your space again next year.

Re: Bass staying?
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2015, 09:19:25 AM »

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Ralph Sampson Jr has been playing in the Celtics system in Maine all year, and he's big enough not to get hurt bruising at the next level.

If Danny can get a second for the likes of Nelson and Rivers, and a first and a second for Green, he ought to be able to get something for Bass.

I'd be happy to let Bass go and bring Sampson up to sit on the bench. There are also some decent PF/C's on other teams in the d-league, and having another emergency guy on the team wouldn't hurt.

Then Zeller, Sully and KO can soak up all the minutes at the 4 and the 5 as long as they're healthy--and they'll at least have additional bodies if one or more of them gets hurt.

Re: Bass staying?
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2015, 09:45:37 AM »

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Ainge didn't get a second for Nelson and he only got a first for Green, no second.

Re: Bass staying?
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2015, 11:58:05 AM »

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I don't see why that would be the case. With the "arms race" going on in the West, he should be attractive for any number of playoff bound teams. Seems to me more likely that he is worth a 2nd rounder but Ainge may be holding out for more. In the meantime, Bass is a useful veteran player for the Celtics. Really don't care if he stays or goes b/c we all know he is not in the long range plans.

I dunno.  Ainge can hold out, but I think we appear to be a more desperate seller than any of the teams out west are buyers as it relates to Bass.

I think a 2nd is about all we're gonna get.

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Re: Bass staying?
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2015, 05:12:22 PM »

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Bass is tough piece to move, because even though he's a great team mate and hard working player, his $price tag is still pretty high for playoffs teams near the salary cap.

Why's it hard to trade Bass?
Well there are plenty of teams that would love him, but they've gotta send us back an expiring deal AND some kind of asset...so there's a very specific number of teams it would have to be to actually get it done.




If I am the GM of a contending team, I am trading for Brandon Bass.  But the catch is that you would need to have a 1st round pick AND an expiring contract around the same price as Bass.

That being said, maybe Bass is the type of player you need to watch every night to appreciate.
I have a lot of respect for him as a player.  He's limited for sure, but he's a winner.






Re: Bass staying?
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2015, 05:19:53 PM »

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Bass is tough piece to move, because even though he's a great team mate and hard working player, his $price tag is still pretty high for playoffs teams near the salary cap.

Why's it hard to trade Bass?
Well there are plenty of teams that would love him, but they've gotta send us back an expiring deal AND some kind of asset...so there's a very specific number of teams it would have to be to actually get it done.




If I am the GM of a contending team, I am trading for Brandon Bass.  But the catch is that you would need to have a 1st round pick AND an expiring contract around the same price as Bass.

That being said, maybe Bass is the type of player you need to watch every night to appreciate.
I have a lot of respect for him as a player.  He's limited for sure, but he's a winner.

I think the only way we get a first for Bass is if we include the Minnesota 2nds in the deal (which I think I would be fine with - unless, of course, they miraculously make the playoffs next year).

I like having him around, but I would like him closer to the vet minimum level than 7 million.

Re: Bass staying?
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2015, 05:25:37 PM »

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... because even though he's a great team mate and hard working player ...

You state this as if it's fact. It seems quite subjective to me. How do you "know" this to be so? Or were you just buttressing your argument?

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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2015, 05:28:26 PM »

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Portland makes sense for him. Take back some combination of T Robinson, Freeland, or Leonard.

Re: Bass staying?
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2015, 05:31:22 PM »

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... the Minnesota 2nds in the deal (which I think I would be fine with - unless, of course, they miraculously make the playoffs next year ... [/quote]

They needn't make the playoffs. Top 12 protected. Spots 13 and 14 might require less than 40 wins. Wiggins, Dieng, Shabazz, LaVine, Peko improve, Rubio comes back healthy, a nice draft piece, maybe a FA ...