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Re: "Flattest" talent pool in the league?
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2015, 01:52:13 AM »

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I think we absolutely follow along these lines which is something I will say to defend Stevens.  It's not easy figuring out who to play when they are all 2K rating wise like 70's and when many really play the same position.

I am giving Stevens more of a pass because of this too. Even given the muddle talent-wise his other motivations are all in opposing directions too. Play Green/Bass/Turner/Wright/Zeller to improve their trade value? Play Smart/Young/Bradley/Sully/KO for development? Try to find a combination of guys who play well together, to teach them about winning? Etc.
That's exactly what is happening but the same thing was happening the first few years of doc's Celtic career.  It's difficult to give reps to Perk and big al when you also have a directive to showcase mark Blount and a directive to win games.  Doc was a good soldier.  When it became clear he wanted out of Boston I knew exactly what was happening here... Doc didn't want to spend another 5 years being a good soldier and balancing conflicting directives for the long term future of the team.  He had already done it once.  So doc moved on and Danny found some even-keeled college coach to be his yes man.

Re: "Flattest" talent pool in the league?
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2015, 02:02:15 AM »

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Seessh talk about extreme pessimism. You would think that the Celtics have the worst talent pool in the league judging from these responses.

We might. I don't think there's a team in the league I wouldn't straight up swap our entire roster for. Maybe Denver, Brooklyn, and LA I guess.

All of the value in this team is backloaded into the draft picks. The squad itself is very dry.

Be patient, the Celtics are year two of the rebuild and looks to be poised to back in the lottery. This is process, to give up on the talent right now, because they don't project to Anthony Davis is short sighted. I don't want Anige to turn into Pitino and trade Smart, Sullinger, Bradley, Young and Olynyk because they're not doing well right now.

I'm not that down on our talent, it's just that we're not as far along on the rebuild. Smart is a potential star, but every other rebuilding team seems to have 2~3 of those. We still need to draft a couple more.

I wish I could put more stock in Sullinger or Olynyk, but I'm sick to death of them playing the "one step forward, one step back" game with each other. I really just can't understand why they take turns playing well and then disappearing for a month.

James Young showed some nice potential today. Beyond that, everyone else on the roster has a value ranging between negative to neutral.

Yeah I think a lot of Celtics fans don't realize that there are a lot of teams with promising young players. Sure, some bad/mediocre teams like the Lakers, Nets, Knicks and Miami have little young talent but others like the T-Wolves, Magic, Sixers, and Bucks have some nice pieces.

The Pelicans aren't deep but just having Anthony Davis puts them ahead. And the Nuggets are a mess but they still have some assets like Lawson, Faried, Mozgov, and Nurkic.

Re: "Flattest" talent pool in the league?
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2015, 03:04:46 AM »

Offline Rondo9

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Seessh talk about extreme pessimism. You would think that the Celtics have the worst talent pool in the league judging from these responses.

We might. I don't think there's a team in the league I wouldn't straight up swap our entire roster for. Maybe Denver, Brooklyn, and LA I guess.

All of the value in this team is backloaded into the draft picks. The squad itself is very dry.

Be patient, the Celtics are year two of the rebuild and looks to be poised to back in the lottery. This is process, to give up on the talent right now, because they don't project to Anthony Davis is short sighted. I don't want Anige to turn into Pitino and trade Smart, Sullinger, Bradley, Young and Olynyk because they're not doing well right now.

I'm not that down on our talent, it's just that we're not as far along on the rebuild. Smart is a potential star, but every other rebuilding team seems to have 2~3 of those. We still need to draft a couple more.

I wish I could put more stock in Sullinger or Olynyk, but I'm sick to death of them playing the "one step forward, one step back" game with each other. I really just can't understand why they take turns playing well and then disappearing for a month.

James Young showed some nice potential today. Beyond that, everyone else on the roster has a value ranging between negative to neutral.

Yeah I think a lot of Celtics fans don't realize that there are a lot of teams with promising young players. Sure, some bad/mediocre teams like the Lakers, Nets, Knicks and Miami have little young talent but others like the T-Wolves, Magic, Sixers, and Bucks have some nice pieces.

The Pelicans aren't deep but just having Anthony Davis puts them ahead. And the Nuggets are a mess but they still have some assets like Lawson, Faried, Mozgov, and Nurkic.

And I don't think Celtic fans realize the nice players standing before them. Though like the old saying goes: the grass is always greener on the other side.

Re: "Flattest" talent pool in the league?
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2015, 04:46:45 AM »

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I think Denver also has a fairly flat talent

Ty Lawson
Kenneth Faried
Aron Afflalo
Wilson Chandler
Timofey Mozgov
Danilo Gallinari
JJ Hickson
Nate Robinson

Continuing on down with guys like Randy Foye, Darrell Arthur, Josuf Nurkic, JaVale McGee, Alonzo Gee. 13 man deep.