The most logical of the Rondo trade ideas (Lakers/Knicks)

[LarBrd33]

Complications of trading Rondo.

#1 - It's gotta be a team that wants him
#2 - It's gotta be a team that needs him
#3 - It's gotta be a team that he wants
#4 - It's gotta be a team that has an asset or two

Say half the league has mild interest in Rondo.  Say of those teams, only about 8 would see Rondo as a significant enough PG improvement that they'd bother making an offer, say of those 8 teams, only 6 or so (Knicks?  Lakers?  Rockets?  Heat?  Dallas? Pacers?) would be a team Rondo would consider re-signing with.  So of those 6, only a few actually have assets.  Then it's just about which of those teams is desperate enough to go hard after Rondo.

At some point, it becomes clear that the most obvious destinations for Rondo are probably the Knicks and Lakers.   He's got his buddy Melo in New York.  He's got his buddy Kobe in LA.  He'd presumably resign there (I think those two teams are the frontrunners to sign Rondo this offseason).  Those teams are interested and Rondo is a big enough upgrade that they'd make a legitimate effort.  Both teams also have the right level of management incompetence and impatient fanbase that make going after Rondo plausible. 

Obvious Knicks deal:   Rondo + Wallace for Amare's expiring, Tim Hardaway Jr and Knicks 2015 1st rounder - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lw3s9jk


Obvious Lakers deal:  Rondo + Wallace for Nash's expiring, Lins Expiring, Julius Randle and Houston's 2015 1st - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l6txnah

That's the bottom line as I see it, folks.  I'm sure we've all seen variations of these for a while now, but I really don't see anything else that makes any sense presently.   No other deals meet all the requirements.  Am I wrong?  My wild guess is that if we see a Rondo trade, it's something very close to one of those deals.

More likely that nothing happens, we try our chances at re-signing Rondo, and we eventually watch him walk. 

[Redz]

Wouldn't the Lakers and Knicks do better to just wait and sign him as a free agent? Neither team needs him to make them a contender this season, so why give up anything for him?

[celts10]

I just don't think Rondo would be a good fit in New York with their new triangle offense. I think the Lakers would have a better shot at acquiring him than the Knicks.

[gpap]

Wouldn't the Lakers and Knicks do better to just wait and sign him as a free agent? Neither team needs him to make them a contender this season, so why give up anything for him?

Not necessarily.

I think it's early enough in the season where if either team did this sometime soon, they might think acquiring an all-star point guard would help turn their team around (and perhaps their ticket sales.)

I doubt guys like Kobe and Melo are going to stand by all season and let their team get flushed down the toilet without urging the front office to make some moves.

Plus in both cases, each team is getting Rondo's bird right in free agency.

However in the Knicks case I don't see them taking on Wallace's contract nor do I see them giving up Hardaway.

Ditto with the Lakers and Wallace.

I could see this happening with the Knicks

Celts get: Calderon, Shumpert, Amar'e and a future 1st.
Knicks get: Rondo, Thornton and Bass's expiring

And I can see this happening with the Lakers.

Celts get: Lin, Nash's expiring, Boozer, Julius Randle and a future 1st.
Lakers get: Rondo, Bass and Thornton.

[Celtics18]

Complications of trading Rondo.

#1 - It's gotta be a team that wants him
#2 - It's gotta be a team that needs him
#3 - It's gotta be a team that he wants
#4 - It's gotta be a team that has an asset or two

Say half the league has mild interest in Rondo.  Say of those teams, only about 8 would see Rondo as a significant enough PG improvement that they'd bother making an offer, say of those 8 teams, only 6 or so (Knicks?  Lakers?  Rockets?  Heat?  Dallas? Pacers?) would be a team Rondo would consider re-signing with.  So of those 6, only a few actually have assets.  Then it's just about which of those teams is desperate enough to go hard after Rondo.

At some point, it becomes clear that the most obvious destinations for Rondo are probably the Knicks and Lakers.   He's got his buddy Melo in New York.  He's got his buddy Kobe in LA.  He'd presumably resign there (I think those two teams are the frontrunners to sign Rondo this offseason).  Those teams are interested and Rondo is a big enough upgrade that they'd make a legitimate effort.  Both teams also have the right level of management incompetence and impatient fanbase that make going after Rondo plausible. 

Obvious Knicks deal:   Rondo + Wallace for Amare's expiring, Tim Hardaway Jr and Knicks 2015 1st rounder - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lw3s9jk


Obvious Lakers deal:  Rondo + Wallace for Nash's expiring, Lins Expiring, Julius Randle and Houston's 2015 1st - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l6txnah

That's the bottom line as I see it, folks.  I'm sure we've all seen variations of these for a while now, but I really don't see anything else that makes any sense presently.   No other deals meet all the requirements.  Am I wrong?  My wild guess is that if we see a Rondo trade, it's something very close to one of those deals.

More likely that nothing happens, we try our chances at re-signing Rondo, and we eventually watch him walk.

I think you left out one very obvious destination for Rondo this off-season. 

Hint:

We all root for this team. 

[hwangjini_1]

Complications of trading Rondo.

#1 - It's gotta be a team that wants him
#2 - It's gotta be a team that needs him
#3 - It's gotta be a team that he wants
#4 - It's gotta be a team that has an asset or two

Say half the league has mild interest in Rondo.  Say of those teams, only about 8 would see Rondo as a significant enough PG improvement that they'd bother making an offer, say of those 8 teams, only 6 or so (Knicks?  Lakers?  Rockets?  Heat?  Dallas? Pacers?) would be a team Rondo would consider re-signing with.  So of those 6, only a few actually have assets.  Then it's just about which of those teams is desperate enough to go hard after Rondo.

At some point, it becomes clear that the most obvious destinations for Rondo are probably the Knicks and Lakers.   He's got his buddy Melo in New York.  He's got his buddy Kobe in LA.  He'd presumably resign there (I think those two teams are the frontrunners to sign Rondo this offseason).  Those teams are interested and Rondo is a big enough upgrade that they'd make a legitimate effort.  Both teams also have the right level of management incompetence and impatient fanbase that make going after Rondo plausible. 

Obvious Knicks deal:   Rondo + Wallace for Amare's expiring, Tim Hardaway Jr and Knicks 2015 1st rounder - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lw3s9jk


Obvious Lakers deal:  Rondo + Wallace for Nash's expiring, Lins Expiring, Julius Randle and Houston's 2015 1st - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l6txnah

That's the bottom line as I see it, folks.  I'm sure we've all seen variations of these for a while now, but I really don't see anything else that makes any sense presently.   No other deals meet all the requirements.  Am I wrong?  My wild guess is that if we see a Rondo trade, it's something very close to one of those deals.

More likely that nothing happens, we try our chances at re-signing Rondo, and we eventually watch him walk.

I think you left out one very obvious destination for Rondo this off-season. 

Hint:

We all root for this team.

the red sox??!!!??? 

[SHAQATTACK]

Pay him and keep him in Boston.

[chambers]

Complications of trading Rondo.

#1 - It's gotta be a team that wants him
#2 - It's gotta be a team that needs him
#3 - It's gotta be a team that he wants
#4 - It's gotta be a team that has an asset or two

Say half the league has mild interest in Rondo.  Say of those teams, only about 8 would see Rondo as a significant enough PG improvement that they'd bother making an offer, say of those 8 teams, only 6 or so (Knicks?  Lakers?  Rockets?  Heat?  Dallas? Pacers?) would be a team Rondo would consider re-signing with.  So of those 6, only a few actually have assets.  Then it's just about which of those teams is desperate enough to go hard after Rondo.

At some point, it becomes clear that the most obvious destinations for Rondo are probably the Knicks and Lakers.   He's got his buddy Melo in New York.  He's got his buddy Kobe in LA.  He'd presumably resign there (I think those two teams are the frontrunners to sign Rondo this offseason).  Those teams are interested and Rondo is a big enough upgrade that they'd make a legitimate effort.  Both teams also have the right level of management incompetence and impatient fanbase that make going after Rondo plausible. 

Obvious Knicks deal:   Rondo + Wallace for Amare's expiring, Tim Hardaway Jr and Knicks 2015 1st rounder - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lw3s9jk


Obvious Lakers deal:  Rondo + Wallace for Nash's expiring, Lins Expiring, Julius Randle and Houston's 2015 1st - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l6txnah

That's the bottom line as I see it, folks.  I'm sure we've all seen variations of these for a while now, but I really don't see anything else that makes any sense presently.   No other deals meet all the requirements.  Am I wrong?  My wild guess is that if we see a Rondo trade, it's something very close to one of those deals.

More likely that nothing happens, we try our chances at re-signing Rondo, and we eventually watch him walk.

I think you left out one very obvious destination for Rondo this off-season. 

Hint:

We all root for this team.

I don't think we can trade our own player to ourselves?

[BballTim]

Complications of trading Rondo.

#1 - It's gotta be a team that wants him
#2 - It's gotta be a team that needs him
#3 - It's gotta be a team that he wants
#4 - It's gotta be a team that has an asset or two

Say half the league has mild interest in Rondo.  Say of those teams, only about 8 would see Rondo as a significant enough PG improvement that they'd bother making an offer, say of those 8 teams, only 6 or so (Knicks?  Lakers?  Rockets?  Heat?  Dallas? Pacers?) would be a team Rondo would consider re-signing with.  So of those 6, only a few actually have assets.  Then it's just about which of those teams is desperate enough to go hard after Rondo.

At some point, it becomes clear that the most obvious destinations for Rondo are probably the Knicks and Lakers.   He's got his buddy Melo in New York.  He's got his buddy Kobe in LA.  He'd presumably resign there (I think those two teams are the frontrunners to sign Rondo this offseason).  Those teams are interested and Rondo is a big enough upgrade that they'd make a legitimate effort.  Both teams also have the right level of management incompetence and impatient fanbase that make going after Rondo plausible. 

Obvious Knicks deal:   Rondo + Wallace for Amare's expiring, Tim Hardaway Jr and Knicks 2015 1st rounder - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=lw3s9jk


Obvious Lakers deal:  Rondo + Wallace for Nash's expiring, Lins Expiring, Julius Randle and Houston's 2015 1st - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=l6txnah

That's the bottom line as I see it, folks.  I'm sure we've all seen variations of these for a while now, but I really don't see anything else that makes any sense presently.   No other deals meet all the requirements.  Am I wrong?  My wild guess is that if we see a Rondo trade, it's something very close to one of those deals.

More likely that nothing happens, we try our chances at re-signing Rondo, and we eventually watch him walk.

I think you left out one very obvious destination for Rondo this off-season. 

Hint:

We all root for this team.

I don't think we can trade our own player to ourselves?

  We should keep him then. Unless we could somehow trade him to ourselves and manufacture a large trade exception, which would be sweet.

[KGs Knee]

Complications of trading Rondo.

#1 - It's gotta be a team that wants him
#2 - It's gotta be a team that needs him
#3 - It's gotta be a team that he wants
#4 - It's gotta be a team that has an asset or two

I'd agree these are probably accurate.  The Knicks, Lakers, Rockets and Mavs could use him.  A pick and a prospect is likely all we can expect to get, though.

He's got his buddy Melo in New York.  He's got his buddy Kobe in LA.  He'd presumably resign there (I think those two teams are the frontrunners to sign Rondo this offseason). 

This is the crux of the matter.  Clearly we disagree here; I think Boston is still the "frontrunner" to re-sign Rondo.  And if the time does come to trade him, it will much easier to get better value coming back by trading a 'recently signed' Rondo than a 'pending free agent' Rondo.

In the meantime, I think we have better looking assets to trade for Melo than the Knicks do for Rondo.  Not that I think NY is going to make Melo available in the next year or so, but wouldn't Smart, Sully, plus our own 2015 lottery pick and a Brooklyn pick be appealing to team in need of a rebuild?

[dreamgreen]

I agree with you, not sure we can get as much back for him as you suggest but I'd take it.

I've been a Rondo fan from the start but IMO it is time to trade him unless we could magically get a superstar scorer which I do not see happening. Otherwise we have a team that needs scoring from the PG and he just can't do that. That's why I agree he would fit with Kobe or Melo.