Sully Lbs.

[Sketch5]

Someone asked Sully about his weight at media day and he said something along the lines of "Honestly its just numbers I go by how I feel."

This discouraged me.

To be fare, when loosing weight numbers aren't the best thing to go by. If you're adding muscle you don't loose as much weight, but you are loosing fat, and you're movement is better, and you'll feel different. It's better to measure waist, and chest if you need numbers.

[Celtics4ever]

No, it isn't. A back issue is a back issue and weight is weight.

Are you going to break out "your friend is a doctor again", because your wrong on this one.

http://www.sharecare.com/health/chronic-pain/article/could-weight-gain-be-the-cause-of-your-back-pain

http://www.spine-health.com/wellness/nutrition-diet-weight-loss/weight-loss-back-pain-relief

So, in many causes this is true, Koz.

 I am sure, Sullinger is clinically obese.   At his height of 6-9 he is allowed to weight about 232 by those BMI charts and be lean.   A lot of muscular guys fail at these charts because muscle weighs more than fat.    Now these charts were made by a mathematician and I think in a case like this is it BS.  I recall and I am 6'7"  barefooted and the US ARMY allowed me to weight 215 lbs which is very skinny and after that I had to take body fat tests.

I was happy with his shooting, sad he had to walk up the court alot.   I have no problem with him weighing the same weight if he is in shape.   His face looks leaner and he may have packed on some lean muscle which weighs more than lard but he was not in ideal condition.

[kozlodoev]

No, it isn't. A back issue is a back issue and weight is weight.

Are you going to break out "your friend is a doctor again", because your wrong on this one.

http://www.sharecare.com/health/chronic-pain/article/could-weight-gain-be-the-cause-of-your-back-pain

http://www.spine-health.com/wellness/nutrition-diet-weight-loss/weight-loss-back-pain-relief

So, in many causes this is true, Koz.

 I am sure, Sullinger is clinically obese.   At his height of 6-9 he is allowed to weight about 232 by those BMI charts and be lean.   A lot of muscular guys fail at these charts because muscle weighs more than fat.    Now these charts were made by a mathematician and I think in a case like this is it BS.  I recall and I am 6'7"  barefooted and the US ARMY allowed me to weight 215 lbs which is very skinny and after that I had to take body fat tests.

I was happy with his shooting, sad he had to walk up the court alot.   I have no problem with him weighing the same weight if he is in shape.   His face looks leaner and he may have packed on some lean muscle which weighs more than lard but he was not in ideal condition.

Ignoring the unwarranted pot shots, you may want to hop back and read my post again, this time perhaps more carefully.

[jambr380]

Do we even know how much weight Sullinger lost or if he gained any?

On media day Sully said he didn't actually lose any weight, he just essentially re-arranged it by getting more fit, so presumably having more muscle and less fat.

If that's true then it's smart. Sullinger should keep the weight, but add muscle instead of fat.

I'm just not buying any of what Sullinger may or may not be saying. We need to look no further than another 6'9" player on our very own roster in Joel Anthony who is listed at 245lbs - and how many here would call him 'skinny'?

Other notable 6'9" big men weights are: Taj Gibson at 225lbs, Kris Humphries at 235lbs, David Lee at 240lbs, Patrick Patterson at 235. Heck even Elton Brand is only listed at 254lbs.

And this doesn't count the other myriad of 6'9" guys in the 210s-230s who aren't big men (Jeff Green, Tayshaun Prince, Danny Granger, Pau George, etc). I get that Sully's listed weight is only 260, but I think we can all agree that at last look, it was considerably higher than that. I understand that other players' weights may also be exaggerated, but I would guess that some of them are wrong in the other direction.

All it takes is the eye test and comparisons to his peers. I really hope Sully can figure it out as he is a supremely talented player.

[SHAQATTACK]

I want all the Dairy Queen doors bolted shut and chained when Sully is in town.

[moiso]

I don't understand how a professional athlete with a goal of "losing weight" or "trimming up" can't freakin' do it. The reports of him in practice the first weekend being "almost there" stamina wise....How is he not "completely there"? It makes no sense to me. He had all last year and all freakin' summer to get in game shape. He literally had NOTHING else to do or any other responsibility. How does he not get in game shape?

It doesn't make any sense to me what so ever.

TP from me as well.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

I know I was a little upset when I saw him at media day, looked the same as last season pretty much. Had me fooled... he still had a month after those vids with Emily, looks like he ate that month away. He better not be waiting to get into real shape for next season where he can get a fatter contract, I hate people who work hard to get paid and coast the rest of the way (except 4 Shaq... even though I didn't like it, I loved him, don't judge me hehe)!

[DesertDweller]

Sounds like Sully has said what makes it right in his head but what is truthfully the best weight for him. what is the weight that puts him where he can perform the best but keeps him out of an unhealthy situation. 
does the guy have any glandular problems??? if not, then he should stop being lazy and get down to the weight that is most beneficial for him and would considerably improve the Celtics chances of competing!!!

[TwinTower14]

I thought he looked heavy from the photos and that has to be frustrating for Stevens.  I don't think he will get much better than he is now because of how undisciplined he is off the court.  It's unfortunate because he is a talented guy.....

If there was ever a guy that needed KG it's Sully.  If KG had another year or two with him, he would have taught him how to be a pro on and off the court.  Especially as it pertains to taking care of his body and I bet KG would have held him accountable...

[DesertDweller]

I thought he looked heavy from the photos and that has to be frustrating for Stevens.  I don't think he will get much better than he is now because of how undisciplined he is off the court.  It's unfortunate because he is a talented guy.....

If there was ever a guy that needed KG it's Sully.  If KG had another year or two with him, he would have taught him how to be a pro on and off the court.  Especially as it pertains to taking care of his body and I bet KG would have held him accountable...

I thought Sully's dad had a pretty good grip on him off the court, I guess not!!!

it's a shame he's not taking this more seriously because this decision of being fit could mean the difference between mediocrity and greatness. not saying it would,  but he does have some pretty good skills!!!

[TwinTower14]

I thought he looked heavy from the photos and that has to be frustrating for Stevens.  I don't think he will get much better than he is now because of how undisciplined he is off the court.  It's unfortunate because he is a talented guy.....

If there was ever a guy that needed KG it's Sully.  If KG had another year or two with him, he would have taught him how to be a pro on and off the court.  Especially as it pertains to taking care of his body and I bet KG would have held him accountable...

I thought Sully's dad had a pretty good grip on him off the court, I guess not!!!

it's a shame he's not taking this more seriously because this decision of being fit could mean the difference between mediocrity and greatness. not saying it would,  but he does have some pretty good skills!!!

I completely agree, he is very skilled but he really needs to push himself away from the table.  If the C's are going to play fast like Steven's wants, Sully's lack of conditioning will get in the way....

[Vermont Green]

Jared Sullinger is 22 years old.  He looks older and in many ways acts and sounds older, but 22 is really young.  I share the sentiment of not being able to understand how he could show up at camp not quite in shape and not quite at his weight but he is very young and he does have some window of time to figure it out.  The clock is ticking though.

This is going to be a crap season I expect so I don't feel like this season will be a tell-tale for his career.  If he wants to be a true star though, he can't afford to let a season go by where he doesn't advance his game meaningfully.  That is really the risk.

I think after Gerald Wallace is done pumping up Green, he should get into Sullinger's ear.

[mmmmm]

Meh.  I'm not going to consider it a problem until it is a problem.

What constitutes 'fit' varies considerably from athlete to athlete.

All that matters is if he has the conditioning to play at a high level for extended minutes at the NBA level.   That may or may not correlate with his weight.

Sully played between 30-39 minutes in 33 of his 74 games last year, including 8 his last 13 games.  Those (games > 30 min) were by far his most productive and efficient games.   

In those 33 games he averaged 33.5 minutes, scored 17.6 points, grabbed 9.8 rebounds and dealt 2.0 assists.  He also posted FG%/3P%/FT% line of 47.0/33.0/78.9 and a TS% of 54.3%.

So, no real indication that he was getting gassed and tailing off in games with extended minutes.

'Not saying he couldn't improve and I'm not saying he hasn't regressed (conditioning) below where he was or not.

I'm just saying I'm not going to consider it a problem until it is a problem.

[D.o.s.]

Meh.  I'm not going to consider it a problem until it is a problem.

What constitutes 'fit' varies considerably from athlete to athlete.

All that matters is if he has the conditioning to play at a high level for extended minutes at the NBA level.   That may or may not correlate with his weight.

Sully played between 30-39 minutes in 33 of his 74 games last year, including 8 his last 13 games.  Those (games > 30 min) were by far his most productive and efficient games.   

In those 33 games he averaged 33.5 minutes, scored 17.6 points, grabbed 9.8 rebounds and dealt 2.0 assists.  He also posted FG%/3P%/FT% line of 47.0/33.0/78.9 and a TS% of 54.3%.

So, no real indication that he was getting gassed and tailing off in games with extended minutes.

'Not saying he couldn't improve and I'm not saying he hasn't regressed (conditioning) below where he was or not.

I'm just saying I'm not going to consider it a problem until it is a problem.

Agreed.