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Re: Cavs already trade Bogans to Philly
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2014, 10:12:58 PM »

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I thought Philly was tanking again this year. Move like that could only mean they have the playoffs in sight.  ;D

Re: Cavs trade Bogans to the 76ers
« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2014, 10:16:24 PM »

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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11598637/keith-bogans-traded-cleveland-cavaliers-philadelphia-76ers

I thought the Cavs wanted Bogans to combine with Hayward's non guarantee to trade for a player for next season.  Now they make this move?

Did we get a better return from the Cavs or Cavs did from the 76ers for Bogans?

It sounds like we got a better return, though it's irrelevant because both teams are in different situations and have different objectives.

The Cavs gave yet another future 2nd, while getting a conditional one back. Their objective though was to stay out of the luxury tax at the end of the season, while gaining a trade exception.

why don't the cavs just keep Bogans?

There seems to be alot of loopholes in the nba trading system. No other major league sports has these kind of "loopholes"

They wanted to avoid the luxury tax threshold. I think you are right about the NBA having the most "loopholes" - though the NFL has quite a few loopholes for roster management in general.

It makes the NBA more exciting from a front office perspective, imo.

Why couldn't they just cut the non guaranteed guy they sent us.   Then they would be under the threshold no?

Doing it this way got them a $5.3 million trade exception, and I think one of the contracts they sent was guaranteed

They could have been under the cap without doing the deals, but this way they get a trade exception that they can use later for a few (likely worthless) 2nd rounders

nba will prob look into getting rid of this loophole. It's kind of ridiculous

Re: Cavs already trade Bogans to Philly
« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2014, 10:21:36 PM »

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Bogland gets traded to celtics, says "nooo!"
Gets traded to cavs, says "yes!"
Then to philly, says "nooooooooooo!"


Funny stuff!  Will Philadelphia send Bogans home for the year in an attempt to secure more losses. 
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Re: Cavs trade Bogans to the 76ers
« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2014, 10:42:17 PM »

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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11598637/keith-bogans-traded-cleveland-cavaliers-philadelphia-76ers

I thought the Cavs wanted Bogans to combine with Hayward's non guarantee to trade for a player for next season.  Now they make this move?

Did we get a better return from the Cavs or Cavs did from the 76ers for Bogans?

It sounds like we got a better return, though it's irrelevant because both teams are in different situations and have different objectives.

The Cavs gave yet another future 2nd, while getting a conditional one back. Their objective though was to stay out of the luxury tax at the end of the season, while gaining a trade exception.

why don't the cavs just keep Bogans?

There seems to be alot of loopholes in the nba trading system. No other major league sports has these kind of "loopholes"

They wanted to avoid the luxury tax threshold. I think you are right about the NBA having the most "loopholes" - though the NFL has quite a few loopholes for roster management in general.

It makes the NBA more exciting from a front office perspective, imo.

Why couldn't they just cut the non guaranteed guy they sent us.   Then they would be under the threshold no?

Doing it this way got them a $5.3 million trade exception, and I think one of the contracts they sent was guaranteed

They could have been under the cap without doing the deals, but this way they get a trade exception that they can use later for a few (likely worthless) 2nd rounders

They signed Powell to a guaranteed deal the day they made the Kevin Love trade official.  If they hadn't done that, they could have just cut everyone, kept the 2nd rounders they dealt, and possibly gotten Powell into a Colton Iverson-like situation instead of having a trade exception which might never be used.

I've saying all along that to get a pick for Bogans from a team over the cap, the Celtics had to take back some guaranteed salary and that to dump Bogans on a team under the cap like Philly, the Celtics would have had to give up a second-round pick.
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Re: Cavs already trade Bogans to Philly
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2014, 12:23:52 AM »

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woohoo!  everybody gets a trade exception!!
bogans moving to his umpteemth team, he is like the Liz Taylor of NBA players!