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Detroit Bad Boys
« on: September 25, 2014, 07:57:25 PM »

Offline manl_lui

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I know this isn't really Celtics related but on NBATV right now, they are airing the Detroit Bad Boys documentary. Endless and endless Celtics references. This quote came from Lambier

"The Boston Celtics has taught us how to be better players, tougher players, they taught us about mental toughness"

Just amazing how this quote would come out again 20+ years later when the Miami Heat said this about us

GO CELTICS! Proud to be a Bostonian!

Re: Detroit Bad Boys
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2014, 08:40:14 PM »

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I know this isn't really Celtics related but on NBATV right now, they are airing the Detroit Bad Boys documentary. Endless and endless Celtics references. This quote came from Lambier

"The Boston Celtics has taught us how to be better players, tougher players, they taught us about mental toughness"

Just amazing how this quote would come out again 20+ years later when the Miami Heat said this about us

GO CELTICS! Proud to be a Bostonian!

I wish that I got NBA TV lol.  I watched the documentary at the time, and it confirmed everything that I already knew about them.  Keep watching.  They show why they're pricks.  Laimbeer said, "I liked to have a mental edge with their best player, and that was Bird.  If you could break him, you could break their whole unit."  Yeah, Bill, I hate to say this, but you never had an edge in any capacity on Larry, and the fact that you think that you 'broke him' is hilarious.  He shows his true cry-baby form when they discuss the 1991 season.  He said, "It gets tiring."  Really, Bill?  Wow, and I thought that Ainge was a whiner, but this guy just takes it to a whole other level.  Every guy on there was like, "we'd had a long run and we were just mentally fatigued."  Um, no, you didn't have a long run.  Yes, 5 consecutive ecf is very impressive, but Boston not only did that, but they got to the finals 4 years in a row and never quit.  Plus, the Celtics also made the ecf the first 3 years of Larry's career, so that's 8 conference finals in a decade.  In the eastern conference.  Against the best of the best - not towards the tail end when teams got older and eventually broke down.  Sorry, they're all chumps.  If you want to watch the whole thing without commercials, btw, I found it yesterday on vimeo - http://vimeo.com/92387757

Thanks for ruining the game, guys (sarcasm)!

Side bar - I wish that they had showed even a bit of footage from the 91 series when McHale's tip-in was waived off by Jack Madden.  Earlier in the contest, Cousy said, "Jack Madden, making the call," lol it was like you could hear his eyes rolling ;D
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Re: Detroit Bad Boys
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I know this isn't really Celtics related but on NBATV right now, they are airing the Detroit Bad Boys documentary. Endless and endless Celtics references. This quote came from Lambier

"The Boston Celtics has taught us how to be better players, tougher players, they taught us about mental toughness"

Just amazing how this quote would come out again 20+ years later when the Miami Heat said this about us

GO CELTICS! Proud to be a Bostonian!

I wish that I got NBA TV lol.  I watched the documentary at the time, and it confirmed everything that I already knew about them.  Keep watching.  They show why they're pricks.  Laimbeer said, "I liked to have a mental edge with their best player, and that was Bird.  If you could break him, you could break their whole unit."  Yeah, Bill, I hate to say this, but you never had an edge in any capacity on Larry, and the fact that you think that you 'broke him' is hilarious.  He shows his true cry-baby form when they discuss the 1991 season.  He said, "It gets tiring."  Really, Bill?  Wow, and I thought that Ainge was a whiner, but this guy just takes it to a whole other level.  Every guy on there was like, "we'd had a long run and we were just mentally fatigued."  Um, no, you didn't have a long run.  Yes, 5 consecutive ecf is very impressive, but Boston not only did that, but they got to the finals 4 years in a row and never quit.  Plus, the Celtics also made the ecf the first 3 years of Larry's career, so that's 8 conference finals in a decade.  In the eastern conference.  Against the best of the best - not towards the tail end when teams got older and eventually broke down.  Sorry, they're all chumps.  If you want to watch the whole thing without commercials, btw, I found it yesterday on vimeo - http://vimeo.com/92387757

Thanks for ruining the game, guys (sarcasm)!

Side bar - I wish that they had showed even a bit of footage from the 91 series when McHale's tip-in was waived off by Jack Madden.  Earlier in the contest, Cousy said, "Jack Madden, making the call," lol it was like you could hear his eyes rolling ;D

haha I agree, I kinda like the documentary though...towards the end when they claimed the Bulls won 6 championships is because they were constantly beat down before 91 by the Pistons. And the Pistons were constantly beat down by the Celtics before their championship runs.

This made me refer back to my earlier post on another thread regarding if I want this year's Celtics to go to the playoffs. No matter how you look at it, most championships (Most** not all), are champions because early in their careers, they were beat down by an "elite" team that changed how they play and approach the game, like in the documentary, the Pistons credited our Celtics in the 80s that made them mentally stronger, and in 2011-2013, the Miami Heat credited OUR Boston Celtics again for making them mentally tougher, even Kobe Bryant in 2010 said the same thing...

If our Celtics make it to the playoffs this year, I want them against the Bulls, the Heat or the Cavs. They will lose for sure, and maybe even swept, but they will gain more experience against elites rather than facing scrub playoff teams like the Bobcats or others

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I know this isn't really Celtics related but on NBATV right now, they are airing the Detroit Bad Boys documentary. Endless and endless Celtics references. This quote came from Lambier

"The Boston Celtics has taught us how to be better players, tougher players, they taught us about mental toughness"

Just amazing how this quote would come out again 20+ years later when the Miami Heat said this about us

GO CELTICS! Proud to be a Bostonian!

I wish that I got NBA TV lol.  I watched the documentary at the time, and it confirmed everything that I already knew about them.  Keep watching.  They show why they're pricks.  Laimbeer said, "I liked to have a mental edge with their best player, and that was Bird.  If you could break him, you could break their whole unit."  Yeah, Bill, I hate to say this, but you never had an edge in any capacity on Larry, and the fact that you think that you 'broke him' is hilarious.  He shows his true cry-baby form when they discuss the 1991 season.  He said, "It gets tiring."  Really, Bill?  Wow, and I thought that Ainge was a whiner, but this guy just takes it to a whole other level.  Every guy on there was like, "we'd had a long run and we were just mentally fatigued."  Um, no, you didn't have a long run.  Yes, 5 consecutive ecf is very impressive, but Boston not only did that, but they got to the finals 4 years in a row and never quit.  Plus, the Celtics also made the ecf the first 3 years of Larry's career, so that's 8 conference finals in a decade.  In the eastern conference.  Against the best of the best - not towards the tail end when teams got older and eventually broke down.  Sorry, they're all chumps.  If you want to watch the whole thing without commercials, btw, I found it yesterday on vimeo - http://vimeo.com/92387757

Thanks for ruining the game, guys (sarcasm)!

Side bar - I wish that they had showed even a bit of footage from the 91 series when McHale's tip-in was waived off by Jack Madden.  Earlier in the contest, Cousy said, "Jack Madden, making the call," lol it was like you could hear his eyes rolling ;D

haha I agree, I kinda like the documentary though...towards the end when they claimed the Bulls won 6 championships is because they were constantly beat down before 91 by the Pistons. And the Pistons were constantly beat down by the Celtics before their championship runs.

This made me refer back to my earlier post on another thread regarding if I want this year's Celtics to go to the playoffs. No matter how you look at it, most championships (Most** not all), are champions because early in their careers, they were beat down by an "elite" team that changed how they play and approach the game, like in the documentary, the Pistons credited our Celtics in the 80s that made them mentally stronger, and in 2011-2013, the Miami Heat credited OUR Boston Celtics again for making them mentally tougher, even Kobe Bryant in 2010 said the same thing...

If our Celtics make it to the playoffs this year, I want them against the Bulls, the Heat or the Cavs. They will lose for sure, and maybe even swept, but they will gain more experience against elites rather than facing scrub playoff teams like the Bobcats or others

I watched the top 5 reasons you can't blame Len Bias' death for the collapse of the Boston Celtics, and Michael Wilbon said, "...I don't think the bad boy pistons necessarily exist at all, and they would have eaten into the Bulls' run...."  Think about that for a second.  Sure, by 1986-87, we needed more athleticism, speed, and quickness, and it would have been hilarious watching the Pistons try to stop Bias.  No way.  I sometimes wonder if we had been able to get Walton a year earlier, would we have 3-peated, and could we have acquired him in such a way that didn't include our 86 1st round pick?  I say yes to both, but I'll make a thread about it.  The point being, what about getting Bias and Mark Price in one draft.  WOW :o  We still would have likely gotten Reggie in the 87 draft because I've never seen anything that would suggest that the Lakers would have taken him, and now you're looking at a team of Price, Lewis, Bias, Bird, Parish, McHale, Ainge, Lohaus, etc. after DJ retires, and again, wow.

You know who would have been fun to have in 87 and 88?  Maurice Lucas.  And if we couldn't get him, then bring Kermit Washington out of retirement lol as actually happened for a few games in 87-88 for the Blazers I think.  Sure, Kite was garbage, but watching him and Luke go up against Laimbeer and Mahorn would have been AWESOME.  You're going after our players?  Fine.  Enjoy the enforcers, except that Lucas actually had skill with his shooting and passing ability lol.  Throw in Ricky Sobers off the waiver wire and, whew - watch out, everybody.  Ahahahahahahaha; because let's be realistic - the Pistons got lucky.  Had Bias been there, that's a 5 game series in 87, maybe, but it definitely wouldn't have gone 7, especially if we had depth and guys who could actually walk lol.  There was no quit in that team.  Sigh.  What might have been...

Btw, in watching some clips of Jeff Hornacek the other day (who was also selected in the 2nd round in 86), is it realistic to say that he was Joe Dumars without the ball-handling (mainly, the crossover?)?  They're both 6'3" and started out as stoppers, but they were also guys who could pass and flat out shoot.  I was just wondering if they compare at all.  Obviously, Joe was better, but Hornacek reminds me of a poor-man's Dumars, or is that ridiculous?  See, on the one hand, I would have loved to have had Joe on those Celtics teams, but on the other, I want to beat those Pistons squads with everybody, that way there would be no excuses.  I know that we moved up in the 85 draft and I think that Red wanted him, but let me ask you this - would you have traded Ainge for Dumars on draft day, or at least traded Danny for a higher spot to get Joe, because that's a no-brainer to me, if for the only reasons that he could defend, create his own offense off the dribble (what a handle he had), and was a great shooter, while Ainge, iirc, was pretty streaky.  Yes, we was an excellent passer and good defender, but he's not even close to Dumars.  Not then, and certainly not now.
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