Blatt - "Cavs won't trade Wiggins for Love"

[puskas54_10]

Cavs can get Love without Wiggins, if Love expresses he will re-sign only with the Cavs.
Worst case scenario for cavs that he joins in 2015 to the cavs as a free agent.

Depends if Love is looking for a max contract or willing to take less as with Irving/LeBron both on max contracts doesn't leave a lot of room, I could be wrong...

I checked the salaries (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm) and it's totally feasible to acquire Love next offseason for the cavs.

[Lucky17]

Cavs can get Love without Wiggins, if Love expresses he will re-sign only with the Cavs.
Worst case scenario for cavs that he joins in 2015 to the cavs as a free agent.

Depends if Love is looking for a max contract or willing to take less as with Irving/LeBron both on max contracts doesn't leave a lot of room, I could be wrong...

I checked the salaries (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm) and it's totally feasible to acquire Love next offseason for the cavs.

Hoopshype is not the most reliable of sources.

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/cavaliers.jsp

Much better. Irving's new extension must be factored in, as well as Wiggins rookie deal.

Brendan Haywood's contract is like Bogans: completely non-guaranteed. It's a terrific trade chip, and perfect for a Love acquisition next summer via S&T.

[P stoff]

If I wee the Wolves, I would jump all over a trade that would net me Waiters, Thompson and Bennett. Bennett loojks really good in SL... and Minny could plug those guys right in.

A frontline of Pekovic/Thompson/Bennett and Dieng is not shabby in the short or long term.

[puskas54_10]

Cavs can get Love without Wiggins, if Love expresses he will re-sign only with the Cavs.
Worst case scenario for cavs that he joins in 2015 to the cavs as a free agent.

Depends if Love is looking for a max contract or willing to take less as with Irving/LeBron both on max contracts doesn't leave a lot of room, I could be wrong...

I checked the salaries (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm) and it's totally feasible to acquire Love next offseason for the cavs.

Hoopshype is not the most reliable of sources.

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/cavaliers.jsp

Much better. Irving's new extension must be factored in, as well as Wiggins rookie deal.

Brendan Haywood's contract is like Bogans: completely non-guaranteed. It's a terrific trade chip, and perfect for a Love acquisition next summer via S&T.

I know it's not exactly right (hoopshype), but I used other sites when I made my forecast.
e.g. http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cleveland-cavaliers/kyrie-irving/ for the Kyrie extension.

BTW thanks for the heads up!

[celticsclay]

If he doesn't get traded to Cleveland, it is really really doubtful he will end up there as a free agent.

1) There are numerous cap obstacles for him to get there. If salary cap experts want to post the exact details that is cool, but basically between the irving extension and Lebron, the rookie deal for Wiggins, bennetts contract, possible extensions for waiters and thompson there just is not room for a max level contract without major cap gymnastics

2) He will almost certainly get traded mid-season and whatever team gets him is only doing a trade if he resigns with them

3) The outside chance he doesn't get trade is because minnesota shocks the world and makes a playoff run in which case he would probably resign

Anything is possible, but people seem obsessed with the idea of the Love to Cavs and looking at their rosters there really aren't a lot of trades that makes sense. Also, Lebron wanted to be on a team with depth and youth because the three headed monster approach really didn't work out in the end in Miami. Locking up three players to max contracts erodes a teams depth and ability to put quality backups behind the stars. 

[Donoghus]

If I'm Minnesota, I'm taking a hard stance and demanding Wiggins. 

If the answer is no, I'm shopping him elsewhere.   Does CLE think they can get him in free agency (if it even gets to that point)?  Realistically?  Probably not. 

Its their choice to mortgage some of their future with Wiggins and have an excellent chance to win now with the addition of Love or let them roll the dice down the road keeping Wiggins and hoping he becomes what they think he can become but at the expense of a possible 2015 world title. 

[j804]

Blatt is not the GM LeBron is.

[Rondo9]

If I'm Minnesota, I'm taking a hard stance and demanding Wiggins. 

If the answer is no, I'm shopping him elsewhere.   Does CLE think they can get him in free agency (if it even gets to that point)?  Realistically?  Probably not. 

Its their choice to mortgage some of their future with Wiggins and have an excellent chance to win now with the addition of Love or let them roll the dice down the road keeping Wiggins and hoping he becomes what they think he can become but at the expense of a possible 2015 world title.

They can demand all they want, but if the Cavs say no to Wiggins then they say no. Kevin Love made it clear that he wants out, and the pressure is on Minny to unload Love not the Cavs to give up Wiggins.

[Moranis]

Cavs can get Love without Wiggins, if Love expresses he will re-sign only with the Cavs.
Worst case scenario for cavs that he joins in 2015 to the cavs as a free agent.

Depends if Love is looking for a max contract or willing to take less as with Irving/LeBron both on max contracts doesn't leave a lot of room, I could be wrong...

I checked the salaries (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm) and it's totally feasible to acquire Love next offseason for the cavs.

Hoopshype is not the most reliable of sources.

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/cavaliers.jsp

Much better. Irving's new extension must be factored in, as well as Wiggins rookie deal.

Brendan Haywood's contract is like Bogans: completely non-guaranteed. It's a terrific trade chip, and perfect for a Love acquisition next summer via S&T.

I know it's not exactly right (hoopshype), but I used other sites when I made my forecast.
e.g. http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cleveland-cavaliers/kyrie-irving/ for the Kyrie extension.

BTW thanks for the heads up!

the dollars on Irving's extension won't be known until after next season because it is based on the cap and how he qualifies (based on awards and honors and what not).

[Donoghus]

If I'm Minnesota, I'm taking a hard stance and demanding Wiggins. 

If the answer is no, I'm shopping him elsewhere.   Does CLE think they can get him in free agency (if it even gets to that point)?  Realistically?  Probably not. 

Its their choice to mortgage some of their future with Wiggins and have an excellent chance to win now with the addition of Love or let them roll the dice down the road keeping Wiggins and hoping he becomes what they think he can become but at the expense of a possible 2015 world title.

They can demand all they want, but if the Cavs say no to Wiggins then they say no. Kevin Love made it clear that he wants out, and the pressure is on Minny to unload Love not the Cavs.

Sure.  Which is why I said I move on to something else with Love if I'm Minn and CLE wants to play chicken on Love.    You can still move him before the trading deadline and I'm sure you can still find other cities where he'd sign an extension.  Plus, if I'm MINN, I'm willing to bet that CLE won't be able to sign Love in free agency and thinks CLE knows that too. 

[puskas54_10]

Cavs can get Love without Wiggins, if Love expresses he will re-sign only with the Cavs.
Worst case scenario for cavs that he joins in 2015 to the cavs as a free agent.

Depends if Love is looking for a max contract or willing to take less as with Irving/LeBron both on max contracts doesn't leave a lot of room, I could be wrong...

I checked the salaries (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/cleveland.htm) and it's totally feasible to acquire Love next offseason for the cavs.

Hoopshype is not the most reliable of sources.

http://data.shamsports.com/content/pages/data/salaries/cavaliers.jsp

Much better. Irving's new extension must be factored in, as well as Wiggins rookie deal.

Brendan Haywood's contract is like Bogans: completely non-guaranteed. It's a terrific trade chip, and perfect for a Love acquisition next summer via S&T.

I know it's not exactly right (hoopshype), but I used other sites when I made my forecast.
e.g. http://www.spotrac.com/nba/cleveland-cavaliers/kyrie-irving/ for the Kyrie extension.

BTW thanks for the heads up!

the dollars on Irving's extension won't be known until after next season because it is based on the cap and how he qualifies (based on awards and honors and what not).

Yeah, but it's a legit evaluation. The cap will not go up that much until 2016, when the new tv deal kicks in.

[LooseCannon]

If I'm Minnesota, I'm taking a hard stance and demanding Wiggins. 

If the answer is no, I'm shopping him elsewhere.   Does CLE think they can get him in free agency (if it even gets to that point)?  Realistically?  Probably not. 

Its their choice to mortgage some of their future with Wiggins and have an excellent chance to win now with the addition of Love or let them roll the dice down the road keeping Wiggins and hoping he becomes what they think he can become but at the expense of a possible 2015 world title.

They can demand all they want, but if the Cavs say no to Wiggins then they say no. Kevin Love made it clear that he wants out, and the pressure is on Minny to unload Love not the Cavs to give up Wiggins.

I think Minnesota would be willing to let Love play out the year and walk if it means they make the playoffs, so the pressure is not on them until it becomes clear to Flip Saunders and Glen Taylor that the team is not making the playoffs, which may not be until the team is double digits behind the eighth seed in the west.  Their roster is good enough that they might not be that far behind at the trade deadline.

[Sketch5]

Maybe Wiggins can say he wont sign in Minny, and only in Boston! Maybe Smart has his number, and could give him a call. LOL

[SHAQATTACK]

I wouldn't trade Wiggins for Love .

In the end they will regret that.