Not Homer

[Celtics4ever]

This team does not have capable passers at each position. I think we need to keep the offense more simple. We have to play the offense called "milk the cow" and keep at this until they stop it with their defense or we go cold with it.

We also don't have the cure for lass of passing; good one on one players.  Not only do we lack passers, we lack good one of one players.   Seems like we settle for jumpers time and again.   I like when we pound it inside best but even there we are suspect.   We are built to tank.

[Moranis]

This team does not have capable passers at each position. I think we need to keep the offense more simple. We have to play the offense called "milk the cow" and keep at this until they stop it with their defense or we go cold with it.

Less multiple passes in the half court will help reduce our turnovers.

The big thing that helps when Rondo is healthy is that he dominates the ball and he is most likely the one turning the ball over more as opposed to the whole team.

I never said this team didn't have flaws, it certainly does. I think this team lacks a significant bench difference maker and the team as a whole lacks outside shooting. When our bigs are our best 3 point shooters, something is wrong.

I have a big time gut feeling that this Celtics team is gonna surprise the league.

Coach Brad Stevens will be in the running for coach of the year, maybe even win it this year.

Someone please remind me of this thread if and when we hit the lottery haha, I'll be back to eat crow if you serve it!

The reason there are all the passes is quite simply because there aren't players good enough to score when they get the ball on the ball.  That is the fundamental problem with the Celtics.  Just not enough talent to do much of anything.  This is an epically bad team right now.

[BballTim]

This team does not have capable passers at each position. I think we need to keep the offense more simple. We have to play the offense called "milk the cow" and keep at this until they stop it with their defense or we go cold with it.

Less multiple passes in the half court will help reduce our turnovers.

The big thing that helps when Rondo is healthy is that he dominates the ball and he is most likely the one turning the ball over more as opposed to the whole team.

I never said this team didn't have flaws, it certainly does. I think this team lacks a significant bench difference maker and the team as a whole lacks outside shooting. When our bigs are our best 3 point shooters, something is wrong.

I have a big time gut feeling that this Celtics team is gonna surprise the league.

Coach Brad Stevens will be in the running for coach of the year, maybe even win it this year.

Someone please remind me of this thread if and when we hit the lottery haha, I'll be back to eat crow if you serve it!

The reason there are all the passes is quite simply because there aren't players good enough to score when they get the ball on the ball.  That is the fundamental problem with the Celtics.  Just not enough talent to do much of anything.  This is an epically bad team right now.

  The problem is they don't have a lot of players who can create their own shots and they don't have anyone who draws enough attention from the defense to pull defenders away from players. A healthy Rondo could make a difference in that matter. Also, if you look at their offense, their offensive rebounding is a little below average and their TS% is a little above average. If they could get their turnovers down to an average number they'd be middle of the pack on offense.

[LB3533]

Here, back to eat crow. []

Jeff Green needs to pull an Iverson next year. I'm sorry that's all there is to it. Next year, Green Machine needs to chuck FGAs like he was doing his best "The Answer" impersonation.

In the current state of the team/roster.....Jeff's yearning of playing unselfishly is actually producing glorified SELFISH result.

I am sure many cbloggers have already given up hope on Jeff, but a new season can change things immensely.

It won't hurt us to root for Jeff, because if he turns out to improve his game next year, he will be a much more viable option to another team for trade. If Jeff's game continues to sink in our offense, he will have no value to other teams, at least other treams will see his game as less value.

Could we have just 1 full season where a healthy Rondo and Jeff Green can work toether, learn about each other under another season of Coach Steven's playbook?


i think after that happens, we will have a clear picture of where things stand. 

[Future Celtics Owner]

Here, back to eat crow. []

Jeff Green needs to pull an Iverson next year. I'm sorry that's all there is to it. Next year, Green Machine needs to chuck FGAs like he was doing his best "The Answer" impersonation.

In the current state of the team/roster.....Jeff's yearning of playing unselfishly is actually producing glorified SELFISH result.

I am sure many cbloggers have already given up hope on Jeff, but a new season can change things immensely.

It won't hurt us to root for Jeff, because if he turns out to improve his game next year, he will be a much more viable option to another team for trade. If Jeff's game continues to sink in our offense, he will have no value to other teams, at least other treams will see his game as less value.

Could we have just 1 full season where a healthy Rondo and Jeff Green can work toether, learn about each other under another season of Coach Steven's playbook?


i think after that happens, we will have a clear picture of where things stand.

I am putting myself through it again. Im gonna root for Jeff Green. Hey, at least he's not Paul George, screwing his teammates girlfriends. Actually Id rather Paul George.

[Greenbean]

Jef green has been the forgotten man around here. I dont think chandler parsons is much better and look at all the attention the league a free agency gave him. Green is a fun but frustrating player to root for/

The problem is he is viewed as an underachiever. Parsons on the other hand, an overachiever.

[TeamGreen.dm]

He's gonna average 20+ this year

[Celtics4ever]

Jef green has been the forgotten man around here. I dont think chandler parsons is much better and look at all the attention the league a free agency gave him. Green is a fun but frustrating player to root for/

The problem is he is viewed as an underachiever. Parsons on the other hand, an overachiever.

Just cause you think it does not make it a fact.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3209/jeff-green

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/6466/chandler-parsons

These are called stats which are based off actual performance, not random thoughts in someone's head.

Parsons is a better shot.     47% to 41%   Parsons is a better three point shooter.  37% to 34%.
Green is a better FT shooter   80% to 71%.  PPG Green gets 16.9 to Parsons 16.6 PPG.   RPG it is Parsons 5.2 over green at 5.1 RPG.   APG 1.6 APG for Green to 3 APG for Parsons.   I do give the nod to Green on D.   But Parsons is just as good if not better than Green in terms of stats.

Who knows if Parsons could produce these numbers if the focus of a D like Green was folks.   But 41% shooting is awful at any position and really not good for a guy who dunks as much as Green.  Our FG% on our frontcourt is JUST BAD.   Sully is a poor shooter, Oly is ok and Green is a poor shooter as well.

He's gonna average 20+ this year

I sure hope he shoots better than last year.   Having Rondo should help his FG% though.

[Moranis]

Wow I pretty much nailed last season in my post from November 5th.

[vinnie]

He's gonna average 20+ this year

Absurd. I can't tell you how many people,posted the same exact thing last year.

[D.o.s.]

Wow I pretty much nailed last season in my post from November 5th.

Moranis is a seer.

[knuckleballer]

Jef green has been the forgotten man around here. I dont think chandler parsons is much better and look at all the attention the league a free agency gave him. Green is a fun but frustrating player to root for/

The problem is he is viewed as an underachiever. Parsons on the other hand, an overachiever.

Just cause you think it does not make it a fact.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3209/jeff-green

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/6466/chandler-parsons

These are called stats which are based off actual performance, not random thoughts in someone's head.

Parsons is a better shot.     47% to 41%   Parsons is a better three point shooter.  37% to 34%.
Green is a better FT shooter   80% to 71%.  PPG Green gets 16.9 to Parsons 16.6 PPG.   RPG it is Parsons 5.2 over green at 5.1 RPG.   APG 1.6 APG for Green to 3 APG for Parsons.   I do give the nod to Green on D.   But Parsons is just as good if not better than Green in terms of stats.

Who knows if Parsons could produce these numbers if the focus of a D like Green was folks.   But 41% shooting is awful at any position and really not good for a guy who dunks as much as Green.  Our FG% on our frontcourt is JUST BAD.   Sully is a poor shooter, Oly is ok and Green is a poor shooter as well.

He's gonna average 20+ this year

I sure hope he shoots better than last year.   Having Rondo should help his FG% though.

Actually, Parsons averaged 4.0 assists to Green's 1.7 and to me that's a big difference.  When Green isn't scoring, he isn't doing much to help the team. 

[hwangjini_1]

Here, back to eat crow. []

Jeff Green needs to pull an Iverson next year. I'm sorry that's all there is to it. Next year, Green Machine needs to chuck FGAs like he was doing his best "The Answer" impersonation.

In the current state of the team/roster.....Jeff's yearning of playing unselfishly is actually producing glorified SELFISH result.

I am sure many cbloggers have already given up hope on Jeff, but a new season can change things immensely.

It won't hurt us to root for Jeff, because if he turns out to improve his game next year, he will be a much more viable option to another team for trade. If Jeff's game continues to sink in our offense, he will have no value to other teams, at least other treams will see his game as less value.

Could we have just 1 full season where a healthy Rondo and Jeff Green can work toether, learn about each other under another season of Coach Steven's playbook?


i think after that happens, we will have a clear picture of where things stand.

bon appétit!!! we all make less-than-wonderful predictions here, but i respect that you decided to resurrect this thread and dine lavishly upon an unwelcome fowl.  tp for the honesty.

perhaps we could resurrect the thread last year predicting w/l record for the celtics just prior to the upcoming season. that might give us all food for thought, some yummy and some less yummy.

but its all healthy as long as we don't bait one another and create indigestion.

[Chief]

I can deal with Jeff Green. He has a low basketball IQ but is very athletic and can score. Hopefully good coaching can improve his BB IQ.

As for Bass, he has to go. You don't win with 6'6 pfs. It's not the individual defense but the team defense. He has to be replaced with a shot blocker of this team won't win 30 games.

[LB3533]

Wouldn't it be better (more accurate) to compare Parson's first 3 seasons wtih Green's first 3 seasons?

Comparing 1 single season with each other's doesn't really say a heck of a lot.

For one thing Parsons is 25 and just finished his 3rd season. Jeff finished his 3rd season and was 23.

Next season, Parsons will be 26 and Green will be 28 (bear in mind Green's missed a whole season too), so in a way in basketball years Green will be "27" next season.